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elevators are by far the safest vehicle by passenger-mile
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and yet it's not in the clicky-poll
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Nov 12, 2016 00:03
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Bloody posted:elevators are by far the safest vehicle by passenger-mile mr president, build the mile high
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I think we can all agree the Paternosters and Man Engines are the best transit systems
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Bloody posted:elevators are by far the safest vehicle by passenger-mile I remember elevator people love to point out that nobody keeps safety statistics for escalators
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we have a seemingly really good real time map for buses and realtime stop-specific timetables reality: i look at the bus stop's time table and it says "bus arrives in 8 minutes". i walk to the stop (which takes a few minutes), look at the time table again "bus arrives in 10 minutes  "when i arrived at the stop, it said that my bus was 4 minutes late, when the bus actually arrived it said it was 20 minutes late.
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Nov 16, 2016 16:07
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why would you ride the bus if you care about time tables?
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Nov 16, 2016 16:15
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oh, was this your first time taking the bus?
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Nov 16, 2016 16:16
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Wheany posted:we have a seemingly really good real time map for buses and realtime stop-specific timetables new york city installed wireless gear to monitor the location of all city buses, in order to stop drivers from parking and reading the newspaper. just for funsies they made a mobile app to expose this data to readers ironically bus ridership has declined since the introduction of the mobile app standing at the bus stop, you not only know the bus is unreliable in an abstract sense, now you know the specific bus you are waiting for is still 30 minutes away
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Nov 16, 2016 16:17
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Bloody posted:the acela is the best way to traverse the northeast corridor (unless you are literally going DC-BOS in which case reagan<->logan is better) it is extremely ok to refer to washington national as DCA instead of using that man's name to refer to a loving airport
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Nov 16, 2016 16:18
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Toronto installed tracking on busses and streetcars and it's good. except for when there are shuttles replacing streetcars then it's hosed
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Nov 16, 2016 16:19
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from the map you can clearly see that the position data is based on some average speed and not the real position of the bus, because i see buses go by and then look at the map and it shows the bus as being way further along on the route.
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Nov 16, 2016 16:34
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using gps data would make it too obvious how bad bus service is.
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Nov 16, 2016 16:35
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Shaggar posted:using gps data would make it too obvious how bad bus service is. yes this is exactly what happened in nyc
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Nov 16, 2016 16:41
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i don't really care if the bus is 80 minutes late, as long as the lateness is accurate and i don't have to stand in wind and sleet for 20 minutes
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Nov 16, 2016 16:48
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just drive
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Captain Foo posted:it is extremely ok to refer to washington national as DCA instead of using that man's name to refer to a loving airport last time i used airport codes in yospos i got chastised  it'll always be national to me 
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Nov 16, 2016 16:51
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Captain Foo posted:it is extremely ok to refer to washington national as DCA instead of using that man's name to refer to a loving airport shame about the statue of him out front i fully expect the epa building to be renamed the trump epa building at some point in the future (for the tiny little bones of the epa that exist at that point)
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cctas: they're filming something at the Harold Washington Library-State/Van Buren station that involves sticking a plush hobby horse out of the train operator's window 
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hackbunny posted:I remember elevator people love to point out that nobody keeps safety statistics for escalators https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/11/15/man-killed-by-elevator-in-toronto-hotel.html
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Nov 16, 2016 17:51
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Shaggar posted:just drive no.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:ironically bus ridership has declined since the introduction of the mobile app bus ridership nationwide has declined pretty heavily as gas became dirt cheap, just like it always does. rail has been pretty steady. i doubt it has anything to do with an app that the vast majority of riders arent even using.
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Cygni posted:bus ridership nationwide has declined pretty heavily as gas became dirt cheap, just like it always does. rail has been pretty steady. i doubt it has anything to do with an app that the vast majority of riders arent even using. nyc's city bus ridership has been shrinking fast at the same time that use of all other public transit in the area is rising and it's not just falling a little bit, it's loving plummeting, like 10% per year
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Nov 16, 2016 18:31
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toronto's ridership growth isn't negative yet, but it's missing projections by quite a bit. we're blaming fare increases and budget cuts that prevent the service from expanding to meet the last ridership surge and improve reliability
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blugu64 posted:the only thing that the rail line next to the highway does is provide an easy smash and grab parking lot, and take up space that could be used for something productive like a green belt and extra lanes. blugu64 posted:correct except that subway and elevated rail are also bad, and is extremely disruptive to the natural environment and takes away from greenspaces around the city. lmao all over again
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Nov 16, 2016 18:51
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:nyc's city bus ridership has been shrinking fast at the same time that use of all other public transit in the area is rising they also installed time monoliths that look down on you as to when the next bus is arriving but for a lot of people in Brooklyn, Queens, and the Bronx, there is no alternative besides the bus for crosstown since there are no trains and a cab is too expensive.
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Nov 16, 2016 18:57
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chicagos bus transit actually gets used since every line runs predictably (yay grid) and high availability (in populated areas of the north side lol). they actually did install user-viewable gps and use the data to adjust routes and schedules seasonally or for special events, and to try to address bunching but good luck with that. i think it even got them to start seriously considering BRT, although the implementations so far have been lovely (Loop Link) to mediocre (Jeffry Jump) at best. hopefully the Ashland BRT will be less lovely, they're promising limited stops, signal priority and paying before boarding
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pointsofdata posted:Dunno where all these transit bills are going to find their construction workers, they'll all be busy building the wall also the AIA backed down on censuring designers for Trumpwall so it's all good quote:It is anathema to this editorial board to fathom the positive impact of such a work of infrastructure as the proposed border wall or its attendant detention centers, federal and private prisons, and militarized infrastructure that would be necessary in order to achieve the President-elect’s stated deportation policy goals. To ignore the role design and designers could play in instituting and perpetuating the inequality inherent in the racist patriarchy of Trump’s ideology embodies is irresponsible and reprehensible.
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Shaggar posted:just drive My car still has summer tires. I'm waiting for the first snow to melt and then I'm getting them changed
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Nov 16, 2016 19:04
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then enjoy waiting 30 minutes in the sleet and rain I guess.
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Wheany posted:My car still has summer tires. I'm waiting for the first snow to melt and then I'm getting them changed change them urself.
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Shaggar posted:change them urself. every time i do, i vow never to do it again.
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same but then I just do it and it takes like 30 minutes or w/e and its done. it would be harder to get the tires to a shop than it would be for me to just change them myself. also definitely use a cheater bar
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mishaq posted:last time i used airport codes in yospos i got chastised I remember this discussion, but DCA is a valid exception
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Nov 17, 2016 02:14
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reminder that i think of this thread every time i pass a "useless" greenspace installation that provides valuable watershed and urban-tree-cover service
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Lutha Mahtin posted:reminder that i think of this thread every time i pass a "useless" greenspace installation that provides valuable watershed and urban-tree-cover service yes it's true, when you remove useful things from a city and replace them with empty space, it becomes easier to manage wastewater by the same token you could just bulldoze the entire city. rubble is presumably more permeable than buildings or sidewalks or road surface.
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do you even know what a watershed is
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Lutha Mahtin posted:reminder that i think of this thread every time i pass a "useless" greenspace installation that provides valuable watershed and urban-tree-cover service lol
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Lutha Mahtin posted:do you even know what a watershed is oh wait you were serious lolllll
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hm yes this soil-scientist-approved infrastructure change that turns useless concrete no one uses into useful drainage land is a joke. yep ok
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