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Canemacar posted:Donald Trump is a troll the likes of which the world has never known before. He actually pulls off the crazy poo poo people say they would do if they ever won the lottery and got their "gently caress you" money. He is the Ken M of politics. He is also every lottery winner ever when they start facing the reality of their life post winning the lottery.
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https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/status/797273967203586049 Trump hypocrite, water wet, fire hot. Film at 11.
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Fojar38 posted:I wonder if anyone has told him that he can resign like immediately after taking the oath I've seen a lot of speculation that he'll pull a Palin and quit at some point. If he does I think it will be once his approval rates start to go down and he regularly gets boo'd by the people showing up at the rallies he's still holding.
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zegermans posted:Hey he helped Clinton win VA by like 4 votes I count myself among the Progressives, but I'm a pragmatist first and obviously begging for scraps at Hillary's table beats being kicked out of Trump's house, so I liked and voted for Hillary. And, to her credit, she did adopt a very progressive platform. It wasn't enough. Maybe this is a moral cowardice on my part. Still thinking about it.
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Mister Adequate posted:I don't have it to hand, but y'all see that picture of him on election night right as he wins some big state? His team is going wild (understandably) and he himself looks like his soul has just left his mortal body. I love the photo someone took of him during his meeting with Obama where he's just sitting alone in his chair with a "oh gently caress this is really happening  " look on his face
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Canemacar posted:Donald Trump is a troll the likes of which the world has never known before. He actually pulls off the crazy poo poo people say they would do if they ever won the lottery and got their "gently caress you" money. He is the Ken M of politics. He doesn't have a luxury dirigible so I will never respect him. 
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Nov 12, 2016 04:32
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fknlo posted:I've seen a lot of speculation that he'll pull a Palin and quit at some point. If he does I think it will be once his approval rates start to go down and he regularly gets boo'd by the people showing up at the rallies he's still holding. Can the President even quit? Is there any precedent for that? It would be amazing. Plus then Pence would take all the heat as President that would otherwise be deflected onto Trump while he pulled the strings.
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Nov 12, 2016 04:34
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Can the President even quit? Is there any precedent for that? It would be amazing. Nixon resigned before he got impeached.
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Nov 12, 2016 04:35
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I really think the important thing to take away from this election is that charisma really matters for your condidate. Specifically, the kind of charisma that lets you sell yourself as credible and legitimate even when the entire media trying to push the "well both sides are bad gee shucks" narrative. Hillary wasn't able to do that. Trump is incredibly lovely but he's good at talking big and making people believe what he says, even when it contradicts what he said last week. Which sucks but hey at least it means its pretty much impossible for Ted Cruz to be president.
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Nov 12, 2016 04:36
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Can the President even quit? Is there any precedent for that? Uh, yeah, Nixon quit.
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Admiral Ray posted:Nixon resigned before he got impeached. Oh right. Resigning sounds much more formal than quitting, probably why I forgot.
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Nov 12, 2016 04:38
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Nixon doesn't count because he was pretty much forced out of the presidency. Has there ever been a precedent for an elected leader to just go "this is too hard, I quit" in the middle of a term, Palin-style? What would that do to the party as a whole?
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fknlo posted:I've seen a lot of speculation that he'll pull a Palin and quit at some point. If he does I think it will be once his approval rates start to go down and he regularly gets boo'd by the people showing up at the rallies he's still holding. This does make me wonder, though. Which of the two would be easier to dislodge in 2020, Trump or Pence? Because while Pence is horrible and would have to deal with significant problems as an elevated VP from a lovely president, Trump would be that lovely president.
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Nov 12, 2016 04:42
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HorseRenoir posted:Nixon doesn't count because he was pretty much forced out of the presidency. Has there ever been a precedent for an elected leader to just go "this is too hard, I quit" in the middle of a term, Palin-style? What would that do to the party as a whole? Never and set it on fire, respectively. It would be one of the best things we could hope for.
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Nov 12, 2016 04:42
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No and Trump won't quit. He wants to run the country like a CEO - remember how he started giving all his campaign officials corporate titles? He's going to delegate the presidency and noone will give a poo poo. And just like a CEO, when poo poo gets rough he'll still get his bonus, and won't be forced out.
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HorseRenoir posted:Nixon doesn't count because he was pretty much forced out of the presidency. Has there ever been a precedent for an elected leader to just go "this is too hard, I quit" in the middle of a term, Palin-style? What would that do to the party as a whole? I imagine that's never happened because, up until now, there was no precedent for a party nominating and then successfully electing someone wholly unqualified for the position. Trump should have dropped out before Election Day claiming the whole thing was rigged anyway. It would have saved him some trouble.
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HorseRenoir posted:Nixon doesn't count because he was pretty much forced out of the presidency. Has there ever been a precedent for an elected leader to just go "this is too hard, I quit" in the middle of a term, Palin-style? What would that do to the party as a whole? Oh no we lost the guy most of us didn't even like that much what will we doooooo *Pence becomes president, Republicans continue loving country*
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Cup Runneth Over posted:I imagine that's never happened because, up until now, there was no precedent for a party nominating and then successfully electing someone wholly unqualified for the position. Trump should have dropped out before Election Day claiming the whole thing was rigged anyway. It would have saved him some trouble. Hello, my name is Warren G. Harding and I'd like to confide I have no idea what I'm even doing here.
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Nov 12, 2016 04:43
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HorseRenoir posted:Nixon doesn't count because he was pretty much forced out of the presidency. Has there ever been a precedent for an elected leader to just go "this is too hard, I quit" in the middle of a term, Palin-style? What would that do to the party as a whole? If Trump said he quit because he didn't like it, then it'd probably be completely fine, Pence is well liked among Republicans nationally at this point and Trump's idiosyncrasies are the only thing that can stop them from doing whatever they want. If he says he's quitting because the Republican party is corrupt and won't let him MAGA, then it might be Republican thunderdome
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HorseRenoir posted:Nixon doesn't count because he was pretty much forced out of the presidency. Has there ever been a precedent for an elected leader to just go "this is too hard, I quit" in the middle of a term, Palin-style? What would that do to the party as a whole? No President has done that because it takes a serious power hungry rear end in a top hat to even try for the Presidency, politics aside. That kind of ambition doesn't usually go away just because things get tough as the sort of person that even makes it that far always wants to finish the job. We haven't had a President quit in the middle of their term because they're weak. Some don't pursue a second term, like Polk, but other than that the only way out has been to serve your term or die trying.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Can the President even quit? Yeah, it's not like he's the Pope or something.
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Night10194 posted:Hello, my name is Warren G. Harding and I'd like to confide I have no idea what I'm even doing here.  President Debs. 
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HorseRenoir posted:Nixon doesn't count because he was pretty much forced out of the presidency. Has there ever been a precedent for an elected leader to just go "this is too hard, I quit" in the middle of a term, Palin-style? What would that do to the party as a whole? George Washington?
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Nov 12, 2016 04:47
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FuturePastNow posted:And not to be a bitter Bernie supporter, either, but I'll trust the photos of him marching with Civil Rights protesters over the photos of Hillary interning for the Nixon admin as evidence of who would actually be stronger on race issues Didn't Hillary intern to impeach Nixon?
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joe football posted:If Trump said he quit because he didn't like it, then it'd probably be completely fine, Pence is well liked among Republicans nationally at this point and Trump's idiosyncrasies are the only thing that can stop them from doing whatever they want. If he says he's quitting because the Republican party is corrupt and won't let him MAGA, then it might be Republican thunderdome Trump quits, blames GOP, outraged Trump supporters flip Blue, Democratic House and Senate under President Sanders in 2020, proving we actually live in the best timeline
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Yeah, it's not like he's the Pope or something. Uhhhh...
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Nov 12, 2016 04:49
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But yes a President can resign at any time for any reason they want. What's anyone gonna do, physically force them to govern?
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fknlo posted:I've seen a lot of "how obvious it was that Hillary was going to lose if you'd get out of the echo chamber", but stuff like  Killer-of-Lawyers posted:Uhhhh... 
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HorseRenoir posted:Nixon doesn't count because he was pretty much forced out of the presidency. Has there ever been a precedent for an elected leader to just go "this is too hard, I quit" in the middle of a term, Palin-style? What would that do to the party as a whole? john c. calhoun served nine months as jackson's Vice President before he became frustrated and ollied out to south carolina
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I can't imagine Trump resigning due to it being hard or annoying. At best we'll get an impeachment but that won't happen because Pence'll just take over signing poo poo when Trump is out loving his next wife at his golf course in Scotland. Dude'll just grift his way to a billion real dollars over the next four years.
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Donald Trump is an unrepentant attention whore who mainlines any thing that feeds his ego. And you think he would ever step down from being the most powerful person in the world who also receives the most attention?
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Nov 12, 2016 04:54
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Sharkopath posted:Hillary won over minority voters in the primary because there's still lots of living memory of good the Clintons did during the 90s especially in the black community and Bernie was aloof and distant about social issues during that runup. Importantly tho hillary won primary vote off conservative states and ended up losing in the swing states bernie had the clear advantage in despite being a no name dude so lets be real for a sec.
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Nov 12, 2016 04:56
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Maybe Democrats need to balance both social issues and economic issues and if Bernie runs again in 2020 he can learn from his mistakes in 2016.
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Nov 12, 2016 04:57
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Fojar38 posted:Maybe Democrats need to balance both social issues and economic issues and if Bernie runs again in 2020 he can learn from his mistakes in 2016. he'll be almost 80
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QuoProQuid posted:he'll be almost 80 Elizabeth Warren then, perhaps.
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One of the best parts about Republicans is that every once and a while they let the mask slip and tell people what they really think. For instance, here is Reince Priebus:Reince Priebus posted:It’s the other side now that doesn’t want to accept the fact that they lost the election. So look, I think everyone needs to just take a deep breath, take the weekend -- today’s Veterans Day -- count our blessings and let's come back on Monday. "We were just playing politics the whole time, why are you all so mad? You have to know everything Donald Trump said was just for show and now that the show is over we should all go home." Its like he doesn't understand that the outcome of the election mattered to people who weren't going to assume (or not) power.
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^ Priebus is the type of person who doesn't believe a single one of the reported instances of harassment or assault the last few days by Trump supporters is real but that there are dozens or hundreds more incidents like the Trump voter beatdown video that liberals are keeping quiet about.Fojar38 posted:Maybe Democrats need to balance both social issues and economic issues and if Bernie runs again in 2020 he can learn from his mistakes in 2016. He would be 79 so I don't know if an actual run is in the cards for him but it'd be nice to see him spend a few years as a high level DNC operative working with Ellison on platform creation and getting some good candidates pushed forward in local races. PKJC fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Nov 12, 2016 |
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Fojar38 posted:Maybe Democrats need to balance both social issues and economic issues and if Bernie runs again in 2020 he can learn from his mistakes in 2016. His job will be King Maker with Obama.
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Night10194 posted:Never and set it on fire, respectively. No it wouldn't. We'd have President Pence. The guy who wants to enforce gay conversion therapy on minors.
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