YF-23 posted:M&T is compatible with 1.18, so I went ahead and took a couple of new screenshots. I almost want to play this for that idea tree.
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# ? Nov 4, 2016 23:36 |
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Mongo only pawn in game of life.
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# ? Nov 4, 2016 23:39 |
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Jazerus posted:I almost want to play this for that idea tree. As far as I can discern it's the only good idea that mod had and I wish someone else(paradox included) would steal it.
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# ? Nov 4, 2016 23:47 |
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Jazerus posted:I almost want to play this for that idea tree. I used to play MEIOU back in the EU3 days, and every now and then I feel like M&T would be cool, but even putting system specs considerations aside there's enough systems in there that it just intimidates me out of it. For one thing it integrates Dei Gratia which is a huge overhaul of religion in the first place, but it also adds a ton other systems, which are either explained behind multiple-paragraph descriptions each or which are not explained at all (there's a mid-game building called "Regional Capital" whose effect is +0.10 corruption; I assume once that unlocks there's some incentive to building it, but ???). And I'm playing without the Estates DLC to boot. I've no idea what changes they've done there. But the M&T modus operandi seems to be to only ever add more complexity on things. Institutions hadn't been messed with at least, but I'm going to go ahead and assume that's because they're a very new feature. YF-23 fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Nov 4, 2016 |
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YF-23 posted:I used to play MEIOU back in the EU3 days, and every now and then I feel like M&T would be cool, but even putting system specs considerations aside there's enough systems in there that it just intimidates me out of it. For one thing it integrates Dei Gratia which is a huge overhaul of religion in the first place, but it also adds a ton other systems, which are either explained behind multiple-paragraph descriptions each or which are not explained at all (there's a mid-game building called "Regional Capital" whose effect is +0.10 corruption; I assume once that unlocks there's some incentive to building it, but ???). Yeah, I played D&T and enjoyed it until EU3+ came along so I can handle obtuseness, but somehow the border gore is so much worse now than it seemed on the EU3 map.
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# ? Nov 4, 2016 23:50 |
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It's clearly a labor of love, there are assloads of events and poo poo for even relatively minor countries. Just the usual modder problems of not thinking of bloat as a bad thing. I would probably play it occasionally if it weren't for it basically melting my CPU whenever I try.
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# ? Nov 4, 2016 23:54 |
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Incidentally, does anyone here play with Dei Gratia? I've wanted to give it a whirl but never managed to really get a game going with it. Even that seemed to have hard to understand systems (their piety mechanics seem obtuse as gently caress).
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# ? Nov 4, 2016 23:54 |
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Honestly EU4 is much less mod friendly what with the constant huge patches and core game being improved on all the time compared to EU3's small number of expansions and much smaller, less frequent patches, plus the core game having more obvious issues to fix with mods. I am a little surprised that there doesn't seem to be a popular mod which aims to make the game slightly slower paced and more historically plausible without being some gigantic total conversion monstrosity; EU3 had a ton of them but they seem to all have died or suffered from fatal feature bloat.
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# ? Nov 5, 2016 00:20 |
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I think the problem there is EU4 is close enough as vanilla that no one really feels the need to mod it too much except the hardcore crazy bloat crowd. It's a real shame to see MEIOU and D&T fall down that rabbit hole, they were by far the best two mods for EU3.
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The only thing I lament is an apparent lack of MiscMods-style alternate scenarios. Those were great for shaking things up if you got sick of the historical map while remaining recognizable.
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# ? Nov 5, 2016 00:49 |
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Koramei posted:well here's to hoping that paradox will add in the messiah trait for generals that lets their armies walk over water Smh if you don't have Lawrence of Arabia memorized
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# ? Nov 5, 2016 00:52 |
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Koramei posted:It's clearly a labor of love, there are assloads of events and poo poo for even relatively minor countries. Just the usual modder problems of not thinking of bloat as a bad thing.
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# ? Nov 5, 2016 01:57 |
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Jazerus posted:The only thing I lament is an apparent lack of MiscMods-style alternate scenarios. Those were great for shaking things up if you got sick of the historical map while remaining recognizable. I started porting the Dark Continent aka Years of Rice and Salt one but gave up after dlc made me rethink and redo the whole thing like 4 times over
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# ? Nov 5, 2016 06:24 |
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YF-23 posted:Forgot this Did they create entire regions that are completely inaccessible? What purpose do they possibly serve?
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# ? Nov 5, 2016 23:05 |
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Did they create entire regions that are completely inaccessible? What purpose do they possibly serve? ~verisimilitude~ That or they have magic connection portals with random other territories.
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# ? Nov 5, 2016 23:08 |
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Did they create entire regions that are completely inaccessible? What purpose do they possibly serve? It looks like they have lines of travel radiating out of them to some of the nearby provinces.
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# ? Nov 5, 2016 23:11 |
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Oh, okay, I thought those were wasteland region borders.
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# ? Nov 5, 2016 23:17 |
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Alikchi posted:I started porting the Dark Continent aka Years of Rice and Salt one but gave up after dlc made me rethink and redo the whole thing like 4 times over Yeah, I have enough trouble keeping my "Lots of Chinese states instead of Ming" and "5 Chinese states instead of Ming" mini-scenarios up to date as it is, even though China hasn't been directly touched yet by the DLCs. I may make those new Institution tech mechanics tie into some of the alt-history stuff of the mod, like letting a fragmented China create some institutions like the Renaissance and Printing Press independently from Europe , and the late game "Revolutionary China" decisions/events/tag that nobody ever played my mod long enough to see.
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# ? Nov 6, 2016 02:55 |
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Did they create entire regions that are completely inaccessible? What purpose do they possibly serve? There's like small lines connecting the "isolated" provinces to other provinces.
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# ? Nov 6, 2016 03:08 |
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I'm finally caught up on expansion packs. I like the changes to exploration. No more losing ships due to forgetting where you parked them
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# ? Nov 6, 2016 08:48 |
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Did they create entire regions that are completely inaccessible? What purpose do they possibly serve? They paint the map in different ways based off how many neighorbing counties someone has Prettier maps, I suppose
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# ? Nov 6, 2016 08:50 |
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Jazerus posted:The only thing I lament is an apparent lack of MiscMods-style alternate scenarios. Those were great for shaking things up if you got sick of the historical map while remaining recognizable. Yeah, the problem with those is that you have to semi re-do the mod for pretty much every major update, and EU4 is three years old now, so while those mods do get done, they are likely to just die a quiet death in or two updates, as the modders move on with their lives.
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# ? Nov 6, 2016 17:05 |
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Perfidious albion at it again
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# ? Nov 6, 2016 22:46 |
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I found V2's crisis system didn't always make a lot of sense, but it's still a fun and flavorful addition.
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# ? Nov 6, 2016 23:04 |
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Boy Arumba really shouldn't have started a Kingdom of David achievement run just before this US election.
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 12:24 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Boy Arumba really shouldn't have started a Kingdom of David achievement run just before this US election. Terrible opinions, or terrible comments section?
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 12:54 |
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Jabor posted:Terrible opinions, or terrible comments section? Comments section. e:No wait, watching more it's both. WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Nov 8, 2016 |
# ? Nov 8, 2016 13:09 |
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Why the hell do you post that and then not post links? jesus
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# ? Nov 8, 2016 16:13 |
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It's just lots and lots of, "better pick the greedy trait and focus on business", you know how those Jews are right? Better debase all this currency. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecR-7k3bSZM&t=408s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecR-7k3bSZM&t=1122s and comments like WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Nov 8, 2016 |
# ? Nov 8, 2016 16:29 |
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has paradox considered not making a victoria 3 and instead skipping to 4?
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 22:15 |
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Stairmaster posted:has paradox considered not making a victoria 3 and instead skipping to 4?
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 22:46 |
Stairmaster posted:has paradox considered not making a victoria 3 and instead skipping to 4? I bought Victoria 2 and I only play China.
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 22:47 |
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I skipped to Victoria 5 for the trolls.
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 22:54 |
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It could be : Victoria 3: Victoria's secret, and then continue to 4 in an amazing feat of quick development.
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 23:44 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:It's just lots and lots of, "better pick the greedy trait and focus on business", you know how those Jews are right? Better debase all this currency.
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# ? Nov 12, 2016 02:17 |
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I really liked watching Arumba face plant against the big blue blob achievement five or six times. He's good at talking through the mechanics while playing, and he puts out a fuckton of content. This Semien campaign is lousy with racist commentary though, and it's not the first time this has been a problem. The only other LPer I follow who does Paradox is Quill. Any other good ones? Randallteal fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Nov 12, 2016 |
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Randallteal posted:I really liked watching Arumba face plant against the big blue blob achievement five or six times. He's good at talking through the mechanics while playing, and he puts out a fuckton of content. This Semien campaign is lousy with racist commentary though, and it's not the first time this has been a problem. He only streams, but DDRJake is by far the most entertaining person to watch play EU4.
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# ? Nov 12, 2016 05:06 |
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Randallteal posted:I really liked watching Arumba face plant against the big blue blob achievement five or six times. He's good at talking through the mechanics while playing, and he puts out a fuckton of content. This Semien campaign is lousy with racist commentary though, and it's not the first time this has been a problem. Marbozir has done a few EU 4 streams, and does Stellaris streams and has a wonderful Polish accent. (No facecam) Some of the folks Arumba plays with have their own streams as well. My newest favorite is Taureor, he does not quite have the popularity of some of the other big LPers though. Watch his Mare Nostrum achievement run as Austria for a lesson on personal unions. (No facecam) Aavak did a Stellaris campaign that was pretty good. (No facecam)
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# ? Nov 12, 2016 16:31 |
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Marbozir is good.
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# ? Nov 12, 2016 16:35 |
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Entertainment value aside, who's the best streamer/youtuber to learn how to play EU4 well?
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