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| Goku |
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202 | 7.09% |
| Vegeta |
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279 | 9.79% |
| Krillin |
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208 | 7.30% |
| Piccolo or his nameks |
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212 | 7.44% |
| Gohan or Cool Gohan |
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135 | 4.74% |
| Yamcha |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Tien |
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120 | 4.21% |
| Muten Roshi |
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89 | 3.12% |
| Tao Pai Pai |
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71 | 2.49% |
| Frieza |
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69 | 2.42% |
| Cell or an android |
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86 | 3.02% |
| Buu |
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62 | 2.18% |
| Hercule "Mark" Satan |
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327 | 11.48% |
| Videl |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Bulma |
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104 | 3.65% |
| Yajirobe |
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99 | 3.47% |
| Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy |
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68 | 2.39% |
| King kai or another kai |
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53 | 1.86% |
| Chi-Chi |
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83 | 2.91% |
| Goten |
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43 | 1.51% |
| Trunks or Cool Trunks |
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112 | 3.93% |
| Bardock |
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48 | 1.68% |
| Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) |
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41 | 1.44% |
| Uub |
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42 | 1.47% |
| Oolong |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Zamasu |
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26 | 0.91% |
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CharlestheHammer posted:The Old Kia said so and there is no reason for him to lie or not know it. Well it had never been used on Mortals before. It had only ever been used on others of their race. (and a witch.)
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Nov 13, 2016 03:22
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MonsterEnvy posted:How so, we never saw anything that contradicts this. Hell this would explain why they unfused a little after Buu ate them I actually really like this because it makes FAR more sense than the "poo gas" thing Goku speculated on. Especially when Goku brought that up in the episode.
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Nov 13, 2016 03:28
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I'm a little conflicted on this episode but overall it was cool and good trunks randomly learning how to use the spirit bomb was cool and funny, then him pulling a dbz movie and absorbing it into his sword (???) was neat; I'm glad and honestly a little surprised that he got the final fight/win over zamasu. on the other hand, vegito was pretty disappointing (he didn't seem that much stronger than zamasu and was only minimally smug) and kind of flies in the face of what we're told in dbz. it's a minor retcon but eh, it's still kinda lame and also means that they can just fuse w/e they want really with no consequences. but for real, the trunks stuff was great
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Nov 13, 2016 03:34
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Manatee Cannon posted:I'm a little conflicted on this episode but overall it was cool and good They could fuse when they wanted with no consequences already. They have both the Dragonballs and Majin Buu hanging around, both of which can canonically unfuse people. I suppose I'd be more bothered by the retcon if they hadn't just gone "Oh, uh, Buu unfuses people naturally" the first time it happened and there wasn't a ready-made solution on the sidelines anyway.
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Nov 13, 2016 03:36
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Vegito Blue owned so hard and I'm so sad they retconned us out of having more of him. Trunks' win was also super cool (HOLY poo poo SOMEONE BESIDES GOKU GOT TO SAVE THE DAY!!!) but felt a little abrupt.
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Nov 13, 2016 03:36
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Spiritus Nox posted:Vegito Blue owned so hard and I'm so sad they retconned us out of having more of him. Trunks' win was also super cool (HOLY poo poo SOMEONE BESIDES GOKU GOT TO SAVE THE DAY!!!) but felt a little abrupt. The time limit is totally just an excuse to be able to bring back Vegito whenever they want without having to do a "they gather the Dragon Balls" thing every time.
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Nov 13, 2016 03:38
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ImpAtom posted:They could fuse when they wanted with no consequences already. They have both the Dragonballs and Majin Buu hanging around, both of which can canonically unfuse people. the dragon balls are once a year and they were never gonna have a "buu eats vegito to unfuse him" plotline when buu is a good guy also it means we don't get slice of life vegito and that is incredibly hosed up Spiritus Nox posted:Vegito Blue owned so hard and I'm so sad they retconned us out of having more of him. Trunks' win was also super cool (HOLY poo poo SOMEONE BESIDES GOKU GOT TO SAVE THE DAY!!!) but felt a little abrupt. trunks can join gohan in the "actually beat the main bad guy without being goku" club. I wonder if anyone else is gonna get their day in the sun like he did here
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Nov 13, 2016 03:41
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Manatee Cannon posted:the dragon balls are once a year and they were never gonna have a "buu eats vegito to unfuse him" plotline when buu is a good guy Eh, the Dragonballs being once a year is rarely an actual concern, though slice of life Vegito would have been funny. Trunks has now defeated Frieza, Cell, The Androids, Babidi and Zamasu. His hero rating is through the goddamn roof.
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Nov 13, 2016 03:44
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ImpAtom posted:Trunks encouraging people so much they spontaneously create the Genki Dama which he forms into a giant sword and uses to kill an evil god is the most fanfictiony thing ever and it kind of owns.
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Nov 13, 2016 03:49
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Manatee Cannon posted:trunks can join gohan in the "actually beat the main bad guy without being goku" club. I wonder if anyone else is gonna get their day in the sun like he did here Krillin killed Cell 
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Nov 13, 2016 03:49
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beating bad guys only counts if they're still relevant
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Nov 13, 2016 03:52
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Rutibex posted:Krillin killed Cell at that stage so could a coat hanger
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Nov 13, 2016 03:53
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IMO the episode was good, and any fault it may have stem from a previous episode, namely the Mafuba episode. Zamasu poo poo talks ningen, Trunks gives a rousing speech about ningen's chikara, Trunks pulls a move out of his rear end and wins . Had the Mafuba episode not existed, this wouldn't feel like a rehash of the scenario(specially since Mafuba suddenly being considered as an option when it was never before against the likes of Cell or Buu crosses the suspension of disbelief) Also the episode would have worked much better if instead of retconning the Potato Fusion into lasting one hour and running out of time earlier, they made it like "Oh no, Blue's power is too strong, it broke the Potato Earrings and now the fusion will revert Not to mention that if anything Blue should have INCREASED the duration of the Fusion since he is more Godlike than normal Vegito, and God Potato fusion is unlimited/lasts longer according to this new retcon rule
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Nov 13, 2016 03:56
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Ha gonna have to make Vegito usable on a timer from now on in DB fighting games now. Now in the club of SSJ4 Gogeta as disappointingly short usage in a DB series. Still good episode overall but was wondering if we would go a week or 2 more.
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Nov 13, 2016 03:56
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lezard_valeth posted:IMO the episode was good, and any fault it may have stem from a previous episode, namely the Mafuba episode. Zamasu poo poo talks ningen, Trunks gives a rousing speech about ningen's chikara, Trunks pulls a move out of his rear end and wins . Had the Mafuba episode not existed, this wouldn't feel like a rehash of the scenario(specially since Mafuba suddenly being considered as an option when it was never before against the likes of Cell or Buu crosses the suspension of disbelief) Cell and Buu weren't immortal, they just specced in healing.
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Nov 13, 2016 04:00
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ImpAtom posted:Eh, the Dragonballs being once a year is rarely an actual concern, though slice of life Vegito would have been funny. All I'm saying is I assume Vegeta is unbelievably proud vis a vis Trunks v Gohan.
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Nov 13, 2016 04:01
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God. What a fantastic loving arc. Could not be happier with that ending.
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Nov 13, 2016 04:06
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Another neat little thing I liked Trunks slices Zamasu dick first instead of the usual anime overhead slash Take that you self absorbed (yet lovable) rear end in a top hat 
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Nov 13, 2016 04:07
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Having the seen the full episode, I really liked it despite the already mentioned issues here and there. I just really like that it's bookended in pretty much the best way. The final blow is delivered by Trunks, armed with a sword that is infused with BOTH the energy of ningens, and whatever energy was left on the planet by that point. I kinda wish they had pointed out the earth's energy as much as the people's. In any case, Zamasu was undone by everything he loved and everything he hated, all in one attack. Guys, Zamasu was really, really, really fun as a villain. It's like if Zarbon was the big bad of the Frieza saga, plays it mostly straight but there's that extra flair with him that makes him over the top. Just great, A+.
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Nov 13, 2016 04:08
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this is loving bullshit
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Nov 13, 2016 04:10
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So could Trunks beat Beerus?
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Nov 13, 2016 04:13
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I want to see hardcore fans losing their poo poo trying to figure out where in the power scale does future Trunks sit.
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Nov 13, 2016 04:15
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I am sad that for a series that loves call backs we did get to see the best character, jawbreaker Vegito.
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Nov 13, 2016 04:15
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this whole arc was so poorly plotted out I can no longer believe toryiama is actually involved in this.
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Nov 13, 2016 04:15
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I didn't see him around in Trunks timeline, so what do you think? Trunks is not dead, therefore he wins by default is what I'm trying to say. 
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Nov 13, 2016 04:15
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You guys weren't kidding it was stupid but stupid great. Am i surprised that we actually had Zamasu kick the bucket? Yeah. I figured one more episode or so but I dig it. Also I'm whatever with the retcon, Vegito showed up was owning the hell out of Zamasu for a few minutes. Trunks learning the spirit bomb was pretty hilarious but gently caress it, it was huge gently caress off sword. Also I'm happy with Trunks dealing the final blow. Kid at least deserves one happy ending. Sides Vegeta is probably proud as hell his future son just wiped a big bad. Great episode all around though.
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Nov 13, 2016 04:16
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This is the most Toriyama arc, in my opinion.
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Nov 13, 2016 04:16
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CharlestheHammer posted:This is the most Toriyama arc, in my opinion. 
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Nov 13, 2016 04:18
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Rutibex posted:So could Trunks beat Beerus? How much poo poo had Beerus been talking about ningens?
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Nov 13, 2016 04:20
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Stairmaster posted:this whole arc was so poorly plotted out I can no longer believe toryiama is actually involved in this. This is basically the most Toriyama arc to date so I donno what you mean. The only way it could be more Toriyama is with poop jokes.
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Nov 13, 2016 04:35
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I'm fine with how the arc ended(?) because it's completely fitting with all the themes of the Zamatsu arc. I couldn't care less about power levels or whatever.
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Nov 13, 2016 04:35
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Stupid great but definitely great. Disappointed with the hamfisted retcon but who cares, that loving fatality was metal as poo poo.
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Nov 13, 2016 04:45
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Monaghan posted:I'm fine with how the arc ended(?) because it's completely fitting with all the themes of the Zamatsu arc. Lets replace power levels with Goku Gradation. Either you are less powerful than Goku or more powerful than Goku than a specified point in time. Therefore, on a Goku Cell Saga score, Freeza is sub-Goku, but on a Goku Wedding Dress Saga scale Freeza is definitely super-Goku.
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Nov 13, 2016 04:46
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So in the end, this really is all Trunks fault. He was always strong enough to kill Black on his own. If he had just applied himself more he wouldn't have needed to go into the past at all, and Black would never have existed in the first place.
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Nov 13, 2016 04:46
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Rutibex posted:So in the end, this really is all Trunks fault. He was always strong enough to kill Black on his own. If he had just applied himself more he wouldn't have needed to go into the past at all, and Black would never have existed in the first place. No, this arc shows the true power of Father-Son bonding.
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Nov 13, 2016 04:47
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Manatee Cannon posted:trunks randomly learning how to use the spirit bomb was cool and funny, then him pulling a dbz movie and absorbing it into his sword (???) was neat; I'm glad and honestly a little surprised that he got the final fight/win over zamasu. I thought the same thing. It felt like this ending was pretty close to the Super Android 13 movie, except Trunks took on Goku's role as the main protagonist. Instead of a desperate Goku absorbing the Genki-dama and destroying the villain, Trunks (somehow) learned the Genki-dama, absorbed everybody's energy, and delivered the killing blow. This isn't a complaint, just an observation. I still thought it was cool and satisfying as hell. And Trunks deserved to win.
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Nov 13, 2016 04:48
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It also proves you can't change the future and some new, more powerful creature will ruin Trunk's life.
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Nov 13, 2016 04:48
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The actual message is that Turtle was vitally important to the defeat of Zamasu.
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Nov 13, 2016 04:49
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ImpAtom posted:This is basically the most Toriyama arc to date so I donno what you mean. The only way it could be more Toriyama is with poop jokes. There's still an ep left, do not rule out Goku saying something about how he's glad they didn't have to get inside Buu's butt so his poop farts would defuse them. This was also the dopest thing in the universe and was cool as gently caress. Immensely hype.
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Nov 13, 2016 04:50
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I think it's far easier to say Elder Kai was incompetent and he didn't know potara + mortals had a time limit before now. Besides, this is more dignified than him separating because of Majin Boo's poo gas.
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