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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:We would have Killer "antivax" Mike ads instead of Lena Dunham. Which I'll admit is probably a marginal improvement https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ImFHom_GD8
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:We would have Killer "antivax" Mike ads instead of Lena Dunham. Which I'll admit is probably a marginal improvement Hillary voters seemed to think Vax/anti-vax was some really important distinguisher this year. Amazing.
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I understand why people are worried that the Dems will take the wrong lesson from this, but I'm not certain you can be certain they won't self-correct. I've seen lots of people doing stupid grief-stricken things like saying we should get the "faithless elector coup" going, but the sentiment seems to be much more "Bernie was right, all power to Bernie."
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Dick Milhous Rock! posted:Sorry I don't think that the Noise Machine isn't as ineffective as you believe? They already keep saying our sitting president is a socialist and everything didn't blow up. Socialism isn't a danger anymore. The only thing close to Socialism/Communism scare now is Russia. Which thankfully they had some hijinks before the primaries ended that potentially linked them and Trump. ThndrShk2k has issued a correction as of 16:57 on Nov 13, 2016 |
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Venom Snake posted:Ultimately Clinton herself is a smart, good women Venom Snake posted:IK NOTE: ANY PRIMARY CHAT WILL RESULT IN A PROBATION
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Hmmmmmmmmm let's belittle a black dude for not trusting vaccines 100% what's Tuskegee idk either
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Hey member that time clinton didn't hold a press conference for like 300 days Lol
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Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:Hillary voters seemed to think Vax/anti-vax was some really important distinguisher this year. Amazing. What? No I'm just using that as a concise way to say Mike's politics a catch shade like Lena's.
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:We would have Killer "antivax" Mike ads instead of Lena Dunham. Which I'll admit is probably a marginal improvement Killer Mike appealed to the minority underclass and millenials. Lena Dunham appealed to exactly nobody outside of rich white women.
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Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:Hillary voters seemed to think Vax/anti-vax was some really important distinguisher this year. Amazing. being anti-vax is totally indefensible. it's extremely dangerous to your children and everyone elses children. Acelerion posted:Hey member that time clinton didn't hold a press conference for like 300 days She had lots towards the end of the election (while trump had none) but it didn't really make a difference other than reporters whining less
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Segmentation Fault posted:lol Bickering about the primary endlessly while the world burns around us is silly. If you have a point like "She should have done X" or "Bernie appeals to Y" that's welcome discussion. What I think Lastgirl wants to avoid is "I told you so" spam which gets us nowhere.
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:What? No I'm just using that as a concise way to say Mike's politics a catch shade like Lena's. Mike's politics catch shade from the same dumb libs who obsessed over Khaleesi memes. The idea that Good Democrats hold the monopoly on sensibility is thoroughly and utterly shattered. Just because Mike is wrong about vaccines doesn't mean he's wrong about everything. Dismissing people out of hand because they hold a few silly views is alienating, and alienation was the name of the game in 2016. Venom Snake posted:being anti-vax is totally indefensible. it's extremely dangerous to your children and everyone elses children. Cool, I guess we shouldn't cast a vote for Killer Mike then. 
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Venom Snake posted:Bickering about the primary endlessly while the world burns around us is silly. If you have a point like "She should have done X" or "Bernie appeals to Y" that's welcome discussion. What I think Lastgirl wants to avoid is "I told you so" spam which gets us nowhere.
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As a father of an autistic kid, please get all your children vaccinated so he can have friends. Lol gently caress u just kidding vaxes got nothing to do with it and are a convenient, external thing to blame. Please get every vaccination for those kids with immunodeficiency and need the herd immunity so they don't get loving whooping cough or the loving mumps in tyol 2016.
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Venom Snake posted:Bickering about the primary endlessly while the world burns around us is silly. If you have a point like "She should have done X" or "Bernie appeals to Y" that's welcome discussion. What I think Lastgirl wants to avoid is "I told you so" spam which gets us nowhere. dude, just shut the gently caress up and take your noogies, you don't get to back out of the penance phase after physically helping to kill our species
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TheBalor posted:I understand why people are worried that the Dems will take the wrong lesson from this, but I'm not certain you can be certain they won't self-correct. I've seen lots of people doing stupid grief-stricken things like saying we should get the "faithless elector coup" going, but the sentiment seems to be much more "Bernie was right, all power to Bernie." I'd say the "bernie is right" people are trying to get their ducks lined up while people who haven't figured that out yet are melting down on facebook about racists and not really offering any real opposition to taking over the party. Or more accurately, I suspect the professional politico class from NY/CA that was in charge are running as fast as they can back to Wall St and tech jobs (and will feel next to no pain from a Trump administration). The smug college activist people will have few bad months and protest or whatever, but their hearts are in the right place, and the party will need their energy. They have been led astray by the rich liberal leadership who told them focusing on economic and class issues is the same thing as throwing minorities under the bus.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Cool, I guess we shouldn't cast a vote for Killer Mike then. This is the excuse I (and others) used to wave away Bill Clintons abuses as well as the bad stuff people around Clinton did. Do not laugh peoples concerns off. There are lots of surrogates out there that aren't anti-vax.
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Venom Snake posted:This is the excuse I (and others) used to wave away Bill Clintons abuses as well as the bad stuff people around Clinton did. Do not laugh peoples concerns off. There are lots of surrogates out there that aren't anti-vax. Clinton had surrogates who were loving war criminals.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Clinton had surrogates who were loving war criminals. Did you read what I just said. Venom Snake posted:Do not laugh peoples concerns off.
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Venom Snake posted:Did you read what I just said. Bruh these are all issues of degrees. Mike has never once acted in any kind of capacity to endorse anti-vaccination. Smearing him as if he has was the kind of toxic politics that ate out Democratic solidarity.
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Venom Snake posted:Did you read what I just said. Jesus Christ SHUT THE gently caress UP HILL SHILL your sole use as a human being these days is as a funnel of intelligence from your fellow wastes of skin no one needs to hear your opinions on anything ever again (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Lawman 0 posted:Have there been any more good celebrity meltdowns yet? The "i'm not owned" and "#woke #brands" threads have some pretty good ones.
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theory: lena dunham, or whichever celebrity you dislike who endorsed clinton, had a neglibile effect on the election or a slightly positive effect among a demographic you aren't part of, while nobody else cared, and is a topic somehow even more pointless than relitigating the primary
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zeal posted:Jesus Christ SHUT THE gently caress UP HILL SHILL This seems pretty rude, IMO.
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zeal posted:Jesus Christ SHUT THE gently caress UP HILL SHILL dude he's completely owned up to how bad things were chill
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Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:This seems pretty rude, IMO. good bump_fn posted:dude he's completely owned up to how bad things were chill he has not, and until he does he should be treated like the scum he is (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Peel posted:theory: lena dunham, or whichever celebrity you dislike who endorsed clinton, had a neglibile effect on the election or a slightly positive effect among a demographic you aren't part of, while nobody else cared, and is a topic somehow even more pointless than relitigating the primary Fact: Smug celebrity youtubes are known candidate killers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY
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Peel posted:theory: lena dunham, or whichever celebrity you dislike who endorsed clinton, had a neglibile effect on the election or a slightly positive effect among a demographic you aren't part of, while nobody else cared, and is a topic somehow even more pointless than relitigating the primary Negligible effects tipped the scales in several states.
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zeal posted:Jesus Christ SHUT THE gently caress UP HILL SHILL gently caress off
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) would have beaten Donald Trump by a historic margin if he had been the Democratic nominee, according to a private pre-election poll provided to The Huffington Post. Remember back during the primary the hillshills kept saying how polls 'this far out' don't mean anything? "November 6, 2016"  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Bruh these are all issues of degrees. Mike has never once acted in any kind of capacity to endorse anti-vaccination. Smearing him as if he has was the kind of toxic politics that ate out Democratic solidarity. Killer Mike believes a lot of very nebulous stuff that while is mostly harmless could become a problem later on. This isn't me saying "he's fuckin garbo throw him out" it's me saying that recognizing your surrogates flaws and being prepared to deal with them is the smart way of going about things. It's smearing if you go public with it in an attempt to discredit him. Which sounds like something the other campaign might do no? Surrogates are your hand reaching out to the community. You need to tailor them for what you want to accomplish. Where the HRC campaign hosed up was keeping coordination at arms reach which led to disorganization and mixed messages. That and sending celebrities to deliver political messages.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Negligible effects tipped the scales in several states. If you reach the point where it comes down to how smug your celebrity videos are, you've already hosed up really really badly.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Bruh these are all issues of degrees. Mike has never once acted in any kind of capacity to endorse anti-vaccination. Smearing him as if he has was the kind of toxic politics that ate out Democratic solidarity. Yeah I just point out him buying into that nonsense because it made me look back on listening to Reagen and thinking "man if he thinks Obama answers to the Illuminati or some poo poo this guy is a huge jackass." But I intended it originally as a joke anyway, since like someone else said most people don't give a poo poo about Lena either
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