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Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Rand alPaul posted:

Willa Rogers is super cool and good and one of the few reasons I ever read D&D during that era.

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Bass Bottles
Jan 14, 2006

BOSS BATTLES DID NOTHING WRONG
What if Hillary worked her rear end of to do the best campaign she could but she ended up being wrong because human beings are naturally limited by their own flaws and the inherently limited knowledge of mortal human experience???????

What if the "Screaming at people and demonizing them only pushes away potential allies" rhetoric also applied unilaterally in all directions......?

What if babies were cute and deserved to have fake colorful keys jingled in their faces because they fuckin love that poo poo (???)

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
ummmm

ok, phew, thought the gangtag changed.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

NumberLast posted:

Uh, no thanks



Anyway, nice meltdown etc etc

cuz shes a woman rite??! No haha maybe in that case guy debored is more yer speed (cuz dis guys debored of ur condescension tovarischish)

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
im like one of the 10 ppl that got the nasty women tag and didnt toxx for hillary lol

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

anime was right posted:

im like one of the 10 ppl that got the nasty women tag and didnt toxx for hillary lol

Jaminjami
Jan 26, 2015

Bass Bottles posted:

What if Hillary worked her rear end of to do the best campaign she could but she ended up being wrong because human beings are naturally limited by their own flaws and the inherently limited knowledge of mortal human experience???????

What if the "Screaming at people and demonizing them only pushes away potential allies" rhetoric also applied unilaterally in all directions......?

What if babies were cute and deserved to have fake colorful keys jingled in their faces because they fuckin love that poo poo (???)
she might have worked her rear end off but the people running her campaign were inept

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012
The nasty woman tag owns because it's a great reminder of the consumerist pinkwashing "male tears mug" feminism designed to appeal to upper class yuppie women that was partially responsible for sinking the election

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

anime was right posted:

im like one of the 10 ppl that got the nasty women tag and didnt toxx for hillary lol

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Jaminjami posted:

she might have worked her rear end off but the people running her campaign were inept

And it's entirely possible to word very hard and still royally botch the job in question.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



anime was right posted:

im like one of the 10 ppl that got the nasty women tag and didnt toxx for hillary lol

there was always a little doubt in the back of my mind about her so i also didn't toxx for her

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Captain_Maclaine posted:

And it's entirely possible to word very hard and still royally botch the job in question.

she did this twice in a row lol

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Bass Bottles posted:

What if Hillary worked her rear end of to do the best campaign she could but she ended up being wrong because human beings are naturally limited by their own flaws and the inherently limited knowledge of mortal human experience???????

What if the "Screaming at people and demonizing them only pushes away potential allies" rhetoric also applied unilaterally in all directions......?

What if babies were cute and deserved to have fake colorful keys jingled in their faces because they fuckin love that poo poo (???)

Bass Bottles
Jan 14, 2006

BOSS BATTLES DID NOTHING WRONG

Jaminjami posted:

she might have worked her rear end off but the people running her campaign were inept

I feel like, no matter what happens, there will always be people at the end of everything saying "I knew it all along! How could you not have seen the obvious?"

Like, maybe it's true, but demonizing people isn't really helpful??? Idk. I find it hard to believe that HRC didn't do everything she thought necessary to win. But I also agree that she and her methods need to be completely wiped aside and the Bernie faction needs to give their thing a shot.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

I think a united front against the Trump administration will be easier to work on with Newt Gingrich threatening to investigate the country.

NumberLast
Jun 7, 2014

Nonsense posted:

I think a united front against the Trump administration will be easier to work on with Newt Gingrich threatening to investigate the country.

We could kill ourselves, but that would just be saving Newt the trouble.

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Bass Bottles posted:

I feel like, no matter what happens, there will always be people at the end of everything saying "I knew it all along! How could you not have seen the obvious?"

Like, maybe it's true, but demonizing people isn't really helpful??? Idk. I find it hard to believe that HRC didn't do everything she thought necessary to win. But I also agree that she and her methods need to be completely wiped aside and the Bernie faction needs to give their thing a shot.

the problem is that she was completely wrong about what she thought was necessary to win

i engaged you elsewhere about this before the election, but the "demographics as destiny" poo poo was both a lovely strategy and loving horrifying

AHungryRobot
Oct 12, 2012

Rand alPaul posted:

Willa Rogers is super cool and good and one of the few reasons I ever read D&D during that era.

I liked the post where she got probated for 30 days for telling the truth

Peel
Dec 3, 2007


forgot to label the biological thresholds

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy

Jaminjami posted:

she might have worked her rear end off but the people running her campaign were inept

Yea uhhhh she spent 30 years in public service without learning how to staff a competent campaign, and with unlimited money and the entire machinery of the dnc at her disposal she lost to donald freakin trimp lol

Seeing as the entire thing top to bottom, was her idea, down to the paid donald ducks, no, I think it is in fact quite fair to say that it is largely her fault that this happened. Not that there isnt plenty of culpability and ineptitude elsewhere.

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

anime was right posted:

im like one of the 10 ppl that got the nasty women tag and didnt toxx for hillary lol

I posted every day in C-Spam and never got a tag. I still feel sad about not getting a Sanderista tag.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

AHungryRobot posted:

I liked the post where she got probated for 30 days for telling the truth

Also probated for pointing out weaknesses in Obamacare.

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

anime was right posted:

im like one of the 10 ppl that got the nasty women tag and didnt toxx for hillary lol

:gethill::gethill:

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

AHungryRobot posted:

I liked the post where she got probated for 30 days for telling the truth

i mean seriously what even was it about pointing out ACA flaws that made those folks so mad

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

Al! posted:

"check out this sick burn i laid on a baby" - socialists itt, unionically

fixed it for you, so you can be less offended, god bless

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

hailthefish posted:

fixed it for you, so you can be less offended, god bless



:five:

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy
She also got schooled by the best campaigner in a century in 2008 and managed to learn all the wrong lessons, now she gets to be a retired rich white lady for the rest of her life and the cost for her failure is literally passed on to the rest of humanity, pretty cool i m o

The Puppet Master
Apr 9, 2005

Would you fuck me? I'd fuck me. I'd fuck me hard.



Nonsense posted:

I think a united front against the Trump administration will be easier to work on with Newt Gingrich threatening to investigate the country.

newt can investigate my DICK!!!!!

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Oh Snapple! posted:

i mean seriously what even was it about pointing out ACA flaws that made those folks so mad

Probaby basic things like 10k deductibles and also subsidizing the same companies causing the problems didn't address the root cause.

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy

hailthefish posted:

fixed it for you, so you can be less offended, god bless



This is disgusting how do u expect 2 earn the vote n enthusiasm of maize-americans with such hateful memery

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

The Puppet Master posted:

newt can investigate my DICK!!!!!

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

crazy cloud posted:

She also got schooled by the best campaigner in a century in 2008 and managed to learn all the wrong lessons, now she gets to be a retired rich white lady for the rest of her life and the cost for her failure is literally passed on to the rest of humanity, pretty cool i m o

lol if you dont think she's going to try and push her daughter as first female pres as hard as she possibly can so she can feel like she accomplished her goal in life, no matter what it costs this country.

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

The Puppet Master posted:

newt can investigate my DICK!!!!!

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

etalian posted:

Probaby basic things like 10k deductibles and also subsidizing the same companies causing the problems didn't address the root cause.

no i mean what was it about pointing these bad things out that got them so drat mad at willa. like was it just the same wagon-circling that went on in here where anything that made the party look bad wasn't to be acknowledged, much less discussed, because then people might not vote for them

Bass Bottles
Jan 14, 2006

BOSS BATTLES DID NOTHING WRONG

Oh Snapple! posted:

the problem is that she was completely wrong about what she thought was necessary to win

i engaged you elsewhere about this before the election, but the "demographics as destiny" poo poo was both a lovely strategy and loving horrifying

Yea, she was wrong. Agreed.

But elections are fake bullshit. Playing to demographics is how it works. That's how Trump won. She just played to the wrong ones.

Her policies were still way better for those people than Trump's.

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy

anime was right posted:

lol if you dont think she's going to try and push her daughter as first female pres as hard as she possibly can so she can feel like she accomplished her goal in life, no matter what it costs this country.

lol she can try that if she wants to but idk dude we aren't getting another Bush presidency ever again either. MAGA.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

crazy cloud posted:

lol she can try that if she wants to but idk dude we aren't getting another Bush presidency ever again either. MAGA.

yup, but all that money, all those favors?

yeah. they just became an investment that got kicked 12 years down the line.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Oh Snapple! posted:

the problem is that she was completely wrong about what she thought was necessary to win

i engaged you elsewhere about this before the election, but the "demographics as destiny" poo poo was both a lovely strategy and loving horrifying

It was also dumb. Just looking at number, left leaning people are moving to more urban areas while conservatives are moving to more low populated suburbs. This will result in the lack of proportional representation in House to be even more hosed. It also ignores the fact that minorities themselves can't be driven by racism, as we saw by more blacks, Hispanics, and Asians voting for Trump than Romney or McCain.

It also highlights how privileged people in the political community are. "Wait and be patient" may seem fine to them, but not the single mother who has to support 4 kids on a cashier job, or the recent undergrad who has to take up a temp job to pay off $60,000 in student loans. The white working class nearly flipped because they had enough of the Democrats "slow and steady" bullshit. They've been waiting for decades for them to take care of them after their jobs went away and they've done nothing but further hurt them.

EDIT - "Demographics is destiny" also misses the entire point.People want an ideology to win not a political party. Just because the Democrats dominate all aspects of government doesn't necessarily mean that things will go far left. I don't recall Hawaii begging for Communism. The reality is if you have a party dominate then all of the people from the previous party will just hop into the dominating party. Sure there will be a shift in ideology, but nowhere near as much as people think.

punk rebel ecks has issued a correction as of 22:18 on Nov 13, 2016

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

hailthefish posted:

fixed it for you, so you can be less offended, god bless




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SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

The Puppet Master posted:

newt can investigate my DICK!!!!!

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