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Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

The Puppet Master posted:

holy poo poo their big strategy was to win over those fantasy moderate republicans and they got mitt to shill for them holy poo poo wow

This shouldn't be a revelation.

"At least publicly, Schumer has no worries about his party’s dwindling fortunes among working-class white voters. “For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin.”"

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anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

quote:

Sanders taking no responsibility, making demands. What a petulant and childish way to end a campaign

Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)

Oh Snapple! posted:

who was the poster who was obsessed with where else S4P folks posted because that was loving creepy

There were a few of them, fnklo (or whatever his name is) was one of them.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
It's crazy that all of those people have just up and disappeared from the forums. Are they embarrassed or were they really from CTR? I don't mean to be :tinfoil: but it is just so weird.

anime was right posted:

mitt romneys greatest hits

Any of these would suffice.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

Well What Now posted:

Addressing the concerns of poor white Americans is not mutually exclusive with advancing social justice in racial matters.

ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS OF POOR WHITE AMERICANS IS NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE WITH ADVANCING SOCIAL JUSTICE IN RACIAL MATTERS.

ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS OF POOR WHITE AMERICANS IS NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE WITH ADVANCING SOCIAL JUSTICE IN RACIAL MATTERS.
ill literally never stop quoting this

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

punk rebel ecks posted:

It's crazy that all of those people have just up and disappeared from the forums. Are they embarrassed or were they really from CTR? I don't mean to be :tinfoil: but it is just so weird.


Any of these would suffice.

i mean mitt romney stopped posting the day of the democratic national convention, after literally every post he made was in the primary threads making GBS threads on sanders, using only talking points constantly pushed out by hillary's camp and never engaging in a direct conversation. sometimes he would also emptyquote antisanders stuff.

i don't recall any other ppl i would say are likely paid shills (or at least directly related to the campaign in some fashion)

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.


bump_fn posted:

ill literally never stop quoting this

Really don't. Let that seep through the yuppie liberals heads. Minnesota is built off of the working class whites and is a Democratic stronghold.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

punk rebel ecks posted:

It's crazy that all of those people have just up and disappeared from the forums. Are they embarrassed or were they really from CTR? I don't mean to be :tinfoil: but it is just so weird.


Any of these would suffice.

Don't forget Obdicut, he was very bad.

pancake rabbit
Feb 21, 2011




I have heard that Ilyse Hogue is being considered for DNC chair as well, is this better or worse than Ellison, thoughts plz

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

punk rebel ecks posted:

Really don't. Let that seep through the yuppie liberals heads. Minnesota is built off of the working class whites and is a Democratic stronghold.

Well What Now posted:

Addressing the concerns of poor white Americans is not mutually exclusive with advancing social justice in racial matters.

ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS OF POOR WHITE AMERICANS IS NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE WITH ADVANCING SOCIAL JUSTICE IN RACIAL MATTERS.

ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS OF POOR WHITE AMERICANS IS NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE WITH ADVANCING SOCIAL JUSTICE IN RACIAL MATTERS.

scream this in peoples faces

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Mitt Romney posted:

CTR has only promoted items on Twitter and they do so with prefaced CTR_ accounts.

In predictable fashion, Sanders (and to a smaller extent Trump) subreddits have become bastions of paranoia; accusing anyone who steps out of line as CTR.

etalian posted:

Don't forget Obdicut, he was very bad.
I once argued with him about how Sanders college plan was better than Hillary's and his response was that Hillary's was better due to funding private HBCs (which Sanders plan later adopted). When I pointed out to him that only like 4% of blacks go to those schools, he told me that it's worth it if 96% of blacks didn't benefit due to the 4% blacks keeping up with their cultural heritage or some poo poo.

Fidel Castronaut
Dec 25, 2004

Houston, we're Havana problem.
Oh poo poo, Obdicut. That's a guy I would like to see do the shame walk through the forum.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!

bump_fn posted:

its hilarisou for straight white people who arent literally terrified rn

basically, thank god almighty lmao

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


etalian posted:

Don't forget Obdicut, he was very bad.

Who was worse, him or fishmech?

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

I wish I got paid to shitpost and troll goons.

I just do it for free :sigh:

But really where did mittens go? That account toxxed for Romney back in 2012 so it wasn't just for the last election.

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen
meanwhile, Trump has already started pissing off the people he needs to hold on to the most...

https://twitter.com/jonfranks/status/797975490526998528

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Mitt Romney posted:

66% of Sanders voters said they would not support paying more than $1,000 a year in tax increases in order to get free college and free healthcare. He was proposing a lot more than that in tax increases.

Is this true?

iospace posted:

Who was worse, him or fishmech?

The List goes:

1. My Imaginary Girlfriend
2. A Winner is Jew
3. fishmech
4. Mitt Romney
5. Obdicut

Only 2 of these posters I have seen recently.

punk rebel ecks has issued a correction as of 02:55 on Nov 14, 2016

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


punk rebel ecks posted:

Is this true?


My list:

1. My Imaginary Girlfriend
2. A Winner is Jew
3. fishmech
4. Mitt Romney
5. Obdicut

Only 2 of these posters I have seen recently.

The thing about migf is he gets a few days to post a month before he pisses off the mods again

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!

Well What Now posted:

meanwhile, Trump has already started pissing off the people he needs to hold on to the most...

https://twitter.com/jonfranks/status/797975490526998528

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
reminder this poo poo is garbage and dont let news outlets normalize it

Gearhead
Feb 13, 2007
The Metroid of Humor
At the end of the day I feel like there is not so much of a problem with race at the heart of things. Certainly, race has been INJECTED into things, but the real problem is that some people in positions of power really, really hate The Poors and use race as a weapon. (It's not MY fault, it's THOSE people.)

Until a proper solution is found for fixing poverty, the sort where you have to decide what essential bills get put off in order to not loving starve, we are all collectively hosed.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED!

Well What Now posted:

meanwhile, Trump has already started pissing off the people he needs to hold on to the most...

https://twitter.com/jonfranks/status/797975490526998528

For a second I thought this was Jonathan Frankes. :wtc:

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

harry reid will be a good ally

https://twitter.com/toddzwillich/status/797982974872403968

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
GET
INVOLVED
IN
LOCAL
poo poo

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
What you are doing is "what to do". Right now there aren't any "campaigns" were you can get in and work on a daily basis. One of the bullshit things about political poo poo like this is it's so obtuse and insular not necessarily out of malice but just because it's mostly people arguing in meetings about what the hell happened and where to go. Helping your local party (and activists. mass protests are a huge help for us because they are a thing to point to and say "people are pissed off about what happened") is what's most important right now. You could appoint Marx himself DNC chair but if the party is still a train wreck he can't do anything.

Things like Glyph and the others involved in the on the ground "call in and show up to wake them up" are the ones who you should look to (I will compile what they give me though). The majority of my knowledge is specifically about trends, feelings, and internal fighting. I feel useless sometimes because all my experience comes from getting in through nepotism instead of actual work/qualifications. I'm just a dumb kid who lucked into where he is. I had multiple overnighters before the election hit helping coordinate poo poo in a state we barely won and a state we lost embarrassingly. If people don't want to trust me that's their right.

Sinestro
Oct 31, 2010

The perfect day needs the perfect set of wheels.
There don't appear to be normal county party meetings in California, just a bunch of clubs that then are associated with the county party, but none of my local ones have any information about the next meeting, or if they're even the right thing.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

Sinestro posted:

There don't appear to be normal county party meetings in California, just a bunch of clubs that then are associated with the county party, but none of my local ones have any information about the next meeting, or if they're even the right thing.

call offices and ask when meetings are. calll a a lot

BEAR GRYLLZ
Jul 30, 2006

I have strong erections for Israel.
Strong, pathetic erections.

Mitt Romney posted:

Reminder that Sanders wants every day farmers on Fed boards making key financial decisions about the country.

lol

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

Sinestro posted:

There don't appear to be normal county party meetings in California, just a bunch of clubs that then are associated with the county party, but none of my local ones have any information about the next meeting, or if they're even the right thing.

you have to call/email during business hours

it sucks but whatever

MJ12
Apr 8, 2009

temple posted:

How I do resist owning hillaries in public? What should I talk about?

One of the interesting things about group psychology is that when you get someone into a group, they tend to move their viewpoints towards what the group finds desirable and acceptable. That's why, for example, Muslim-Americans tend to be more pro gay-marriage than Protestants, because the right-wing has tons of Islamophobes who have pushed Muslim-Americans to the left and they take on leftist views. So what you need to do is first get them into your group.

Which shouldn't be hard. These guys probably think their supported candidate was betrayed, and they were right. They probably think of themselves as pragmatic. So talk to them about how Hillary Clinton was betrayed by reaching out to the right. They strung her along with promises about how they didn't like Donald Trump as long as she was willing to moderate herself and she got hosed for it. In the secrecy of the ballot box they went and voted to poo poo on all the outreach she did to the center. Talk about how the Bushes told people they were voting for her but in the end ha ha ha lol get hosed. How about all those white women who said they were gonna vote for her in droves and in the end ha ha ha get hosed Hillary.

And then when they agree with this ask them if they want to keep trying to reach out to the right wing when they've demonstrated how dishonest they are, or if they want to reach out to the left wing. Remind them that Sanders did endorse Hillary and campaigned for her, and that you agree with a lot of Hillary's platform (because you do! There's a lot of stuff in there that was put in to appease Sanders supporters. It doesn't matter whether you think they were just lip service or not). I think that's why a lot of Clinton supporters faded into the bushes for a few days and turned out to suddenly want radical progressive change. They realize that their candidate tried to extend an olive branch to the right and got hosed for it.

Deimus
Aug 17, 2012

Gearhead posted:

Certainly, race has been INJECTED into things, but the real problem is that some people in positions of power really, really hate The Poors and use race as a weapon. (It's not MY fault, it's THOSE people.)

Until a proper solution is found for fixing poverty, the sort where you have to decide what essential bills get put off in order to not loving starve, we are all collectively hosed.

Welcome to understanding what radical socialism is about, friend.

No war but class war.

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen

Gearhead posted:

At the end of the day I feel like there is not so much of a problem with race at the heart of things. Certainly, race has been INJECTED into things, but the real problem is that some people in positions of power really, really hate The Poors and use race as a weapon. (It's not MY fault, it's THOSE people.)

Until a proper solution is found for fixing poverty, the sort where you have to decide what essential bills get put off in order to not loving starve, we are all collectively hosed.

Well What Now posted:

Addressing the concerns of poor white Americans is not mutually exclusive with advancing social justice in racial matters.

ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS OF POOR WHITE AMERICANS IS NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE WITH ADVANCING SOCIAL JUSTICE IN RACIAL MATTERS.

ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS OF POOR WHITE AMERICANS IS NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE WITH ADVANCING SOCIAL JUSTICE IN RACIAL MATTERS.

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003
trigger warning: wokeness incoming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bixgOtkLao

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

mrmcd posted:

Hey remember when Clinton had pneumonia and instead of being like "OK I got sick because I've been working so hard gonna rest up and be back in a week" they were evasive and put out a bunch of bullshit about "dehydration" and launched a million stupid brain cancer conspiracy theories because they have to micromanage every single loving think in the dumbest way possible without ever showing human vulnerability?

Then we were all "This is fine. I'll put this fire with the other fire."

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


punk rebel ecks posted:

It's crazy that all of those people have just up and disappeared from the forums. Are they embarrassed or were they really from CTR? I don't mean to be :tinfoil: but it is just so weird.


Any of these would suffice.

a lot were banned in the Great Toxx Purge

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Justin Tyme posted:

Not if they ditch stupid poo poo like identity politics and gun control and start pushing legitimate working class legislation. Less celebrities, more New Deal.

Face it, gun control is never gonna happen and there are a ton of midwest independents that would be warm to economically leftist ideas if you promise not to take their guns. It's such a stupid loving plank at this point that does nothing but alienate people. If Clinton flat out had a Republican stance on guns would dyed in the wool Democrats vote Stein?

Gun Control will continue to creep along forever as long as the Hillary-dnc have any power at all. It's their anti-abortion equivalent.

It should be ditched asap.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



political correctness did not elect trump. the democratic party and especially the hillary campaign ignoring the economic concerns of the American working class, both white and minorities, did

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

bump_fn posted:

whoa whoa whoa

are you saying....

no war but class war????????

Yes.

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

political correctness did not elect trump. the democratic party and especially the hillary campaign ignoring the economic concerns of the American working class, both white and minorities, did

oh word?

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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

political correctness did not elect trump. the democratic party and especially the hillary campaign ignoring the economic concerns of the American working class, both white and minorities, did

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