Star Citizen: Big MoMA's House

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Mr Fronts: Jan 31, 2016; Yo! The Mafia supports you. But don't tell no one. Spread the word.

tastychicken posted:

... now it's deleted!

Still going...

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/355007/we-didnt-fund-a-company-we-funded-a-game-remember-the-pledge/p23

e: catte taxxe

Mr Fronts fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Nov 14, 2016

# ? Nov 14, 2016 13:06

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XK: Jul 9, 2001; Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

AP posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/5csytn/inn_lets_clear_some_things_up/d9zox4p/

Guys stop talking about all this now.

Lets pretend it's a conversation we never had.

That post was getting bad, smoldering into an actual fire. The sub-thread with Jake defending himself was going critical. He got caught in a lie about where the house money came from (claimed both his own pocket and the patreon), Silent Ruin was losing his poo poo making ridiculous arguments, and even our old friend Bronson was starting to get into it and calling people out.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 13:07

XK: Jul 9, 2001; Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

Mr Fronts posted:

Still going...

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/355007/we-didnt-fund-a-company-we-funded-a-game-remember-the-pledge/p23

It's been hidden from non-subscribers. For me it just shows up like a thread that doesn't exist.

Edit: Er, wait, the other thread, let me find it.

A Neurotic Corncob posted:

CIG has made The Pledge thread unbumpable.

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/7233766/#Comment_7233766

This just links me to a content-less page with the RSI background, header, and footer, like a deleted thread would. Maybe they just deleted that specific post?

XK fucked around with this message at 13:12 on Nov 14, 2016

# ? Nov 14, 2016 13:08

AP: Jul 12, 2004; One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them; Grimey Drawer

XK posted:

This just links me to a content-less page with the RSI background, header, and footer, like a deleted thread would.

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/355007/we-didnt-fund-a-company-we-funded-a-game-remember-the-pledge/p1

Just a bad link due to them probably deleting the post.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 13:12

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

Things had gotten so crazy in the INN thread that you could post an obviously inflammatory bait post and end up getting upvoted for it. I don't know what's happening anymore. But I am unironically excited about a kickin rad space western with Chris Foss visuals. I'm waffling between hoping it comes out and is perfect, thereby helping to destroy the "big publishers ruin everything" narrative (could you imagine how the Citizenry would react to a perfect space game put out by loving Ubisoft of all people?) and hoping Star Citizen fails, then reddit hitches their wagons to the Ubi project, and it turns out to be like a mobile game or something.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 13:14

XK: Jul 9, 2001; Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

I ended up figuring that out. It would be nicer if it failed over to the nearest post, oh well.

Everybody, don't forget:

Today is Fuzzy Modem day!

# ? Nov 14, 2016 13:14

orcane: Jun 13, 2012; Fun Shoe

On the EVE ~~fan~~ bitter vet forum I occasionally visit the SC threads have died down completely, again. After Gamescom and then CitizensConned there was a lot of buzz and talking points about the amazing "tech" and how Derek was proven wrong AGAIN. And since then it's just the one ultra-shitizen posting funding milestones, as if having collected 130 million USD or having x million fake backers was in any way compensating for CIG's continued incompetence.

They never talk about CIG or affiliate shills loving up though :v:

# ? Nov 14, 2016 13:15

EightAce: May 10, 2015; Watch it all come crashing down on his head and wonder why any of us gave him money in the first place.

Mr Fronts posted:

Still going...

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/355007/we-didnt-fund-a-company-we-funded-a-game-remember-the-pledge/p23

Page 23 of that thread is awsome !! These are Tier one Autists losing their poo poo

# ? Nov 14, 2016 13:16

Sabreseven: Feb 27, 2016

XK posted:

I ended up figuring that out. It would be nicer if it failed over to the nearest post, oh well.

Everybody, don't forget:

Today is Fuzzy Modem day!

Almost forgot about that hehe

Lets hope the results of his "appointment" make their way to the internet swiftly

# ? Nov 14, 2016 13:19

orcane: Jun 13, 2012; Fun Shoe

AP posted:

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/355007/we-didnt-fund-a-company-we-funded-a-game-remember-the-pledge/p1

Just a bad link due to them probably deleting the post.

Oh this is cool. Only three posts from "more accountability please" to "you special snowflake :argh:

".

I really hope this Deloria person requests a refund for those $6000, they're asking the right questions and have the right attitude, it should only be a small step to realize CIG doesn't care about backers or The Pledge.

orcane fucked around with this message at 13:29 on Nov 14, 2016

# ? Nov 14, 2016 13:23

AP: Jul 12, 2004; One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them; Grimey Drawer

The thing I like most about Star Citizen from Batgirl, Twerk17, Wtfosaurus, INN1, INN2, the r/dereksmart mods being traders on the grey market etc, is that everyone is making money from Citizens. From patreon accounts, to stream tips, to fund raising for a British Citizen Con, raising money to visit Citizen Con, hiring houses (INN & Test), buying better camera equipment. Competitions for worthless ships that will never be in a game. etc

Everyone is making money from stupid Citizens, everyone who tells you this game is great is on the take in one form or another.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 13:27

Crazy_BlackParrot: Feb 1, 2016; Christ Roberts is way better than toilet lord...

tastychicken posted:

... now it's deleted!

nvm

# ? Nov 14, 2016 13:40

MedicineHut: Feb 25, 2016

EightAce posted:

Page 23 of that thread is awsome !! These are Tier one Autists losing their poo poo

Yes,

This post quoted there is a very good account of the last couple of months, by a loving High Admiral:

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/7235783/#Comment_7235783

An excerpt:

"We were all on a high before CitizenCon weren�t we?

GamesCom had just happened and the showing of the Delmar landing, Miles Eckhart as a glimpse on future quest givers, the way the mission evolved throughout the presentation was stunning and suggested the PU was much further along than we thought and CRs �if you thought that was good � wait for CitizenCon� pumped up the hype even more. I upgraded my Sen to a Terrapin because of it..."

# ? Nov 14, 2016 13:51

Tijuana Bibliophile: Dec 30, 2008; Scratchmo

Can't wait :allears:

# ? Nov 14, 2016 13:56

Crazy_BlackParrot: Feb 1, 2016; Christ Roberts is way better than toilet lord...

oh glorious thread

# ? Nov 14, 2016 13:58

MeLKoR: Dec 23, 2004; by FactsAreUseless

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

Can't wait

Why do they even care? It's not latency loving everything up, it's the netcode, this wouldn't make a difference.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 14:00

Bofast: Feb 21, 2011; Grimey Drawer

The Titanic posted:

There is no plan.

Chris is the purveyor of knee jerk reactions and a lack of long term intensity.

The CryEngine guys are probably trying to figure out how to get the local physics grid thing working reliably still. Possibly looking at how to rebuild the whole net code from ground up to support more players. Doubtful they are looking at MMO levels yet, just bigger arenas for now.

The non engine programmers are probably stuck trying to figure out how to get some new ships and player character assets into the game (likely also including the female model).

There's probably one, maybe two guys, trying to build out new mechanics, but he's screwed because the engine isn't stable and objects are so unlinked between each other he's lucky to get them to even remotely interact with each other in anything meaningful. Basic weapon damage probably barely even works between assets.

There is probably a couple guys working on AI, but in their own totally disjointed sandbox that they hope to eventually plug into the rest of the game like lego bricks. Because this is how Chris believes programming works.

These are the smallest teams I bet too, because this is Roberts land where art and animation reign supreme. Gameplay just kind of magically forms.

The artists are probably going nuts, but at least have the most "direction". This is the place Chris gets involved the most, so they get to deal with his stupidity pretty regularly.

Chris is out of his depth in the programming world, and his assistance there amount ms to him waving his hands and yelling "Why isn't this working yet??!!"

He's probably got a ton of people building set pieces, new characters with ridiculous fidelity more suited to CGI animation than a real time game, and a ton of people trying to untangle the cluster of motion capture animation into something serviceable. Also clothing.

They're making strides though, hence why they showcase "janitor guy" and "martial arts hangar guy". They're putting it all together too, in their own sandbox version of the game (probably the CryEngine editor).

Then you have another group of design guys, frantically photoshopping together the next concept piece or building or set.

And there's about 300 people, all working basically independently of each other, hoping that somewhere some middle manager guy is actually keeping track of how all this stuff is going come together.

Unfortunately, the middle manager guy probably left over a year ago, and the people with the skills and knowledge to direct everybody so these branches can eventually merge together probably drank themselves into a coma two years ago and left because this is not how you do this kind of thing.

Chris had an opportunity to learn this valuable and expensive lesson with Illfonic. But then, Chris has a longer history of not learning anything at all from his mistakes.

While your formatting is a little odd, I thought it was a nice post overall

# ? Nov 14, 2016 14:03

Chalks: Sep 30, 2009

MedicineHut posted:

Yes,

This post quoted there is a very good account of the last couple of months, by a loving High Admiral:

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/7235783/#Comment_7235783

An excerpt:

"We were all on a high before CitizenCon weren�t we?

GamesCom had just happened and the showing of the Delmar landing, Miles Eckhart as a glimpse on future quest givers, the way the mission evolved throughout the presentation was stunning and suggested the PU was much further along than we thought and CRs �if you thought that was good � wait for CitizenCon� pumped up the hype even more. I upgraded my Sen to a Terrapin because of it..."

Deloria is making some very good posts in that thread too, another High Admiral:

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/7235702/#Comment_7235702

# ? Nov 14, 2016 14:08

Sandweed: Sep 7, 2006; All your friends are me.

It's probably 300 people making the next "demo" for next years gamescom.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 14:09

Danknificent: Nov 20, 2015; Jinkies! Looks like we've got a mystery on our hands.

Meta-Mollusk posted:

Can't really expect a classy and handsome high roller like Dr. Smart to enjoy peasant food.

it's unironically likely that Derek actually eats the food that Moma likes to type about eating so much

makes you think

# ? Nov 14, 2016 14:09

Look! A Horse!: Feb 10, 2010

longtime lurker here

If SC hadn't already begun production until after the kickstarter, why does the hype video explicitly state "Actual game assets rendered in real time in engine" ? what engine was that? who produced that work?

# ? Nov 14, 2016 14:28

Mr Fronts: Jan 31, 2016; Yo! The Mafia supports you. But don't tell no one. Spread the word.

Look! A Horse! posted:

longtime lurker here

If SC hadn't already begun production until after the kickstarter, why does the hype video explicitly state "Actual game assets rendered in real time in engine" ? what engine was that? who produced that work?

Hi DEREK.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 14:31

Maw: Feb 18, 2013; Mere minutes after discovering the new technology, it was used to send me a crude ASCII dong.

Look! A Horse! posted:

longtime lurker here

If SC hadn't already begun production until after the kickstarter, why does the hype video explicitly state "Actual game assets rendered in real time in engine" ? what engine was that? who produced that work?

Please don't spread FUD development doesn't even start until 2017 that was always the plan

# ? Nov 14, 2016 14:32

Megabound: Oct 20, 2012

Look! A Horse! posted:

longtime lurker here

If SC hadn't already begun production until after the kickstarter, why does the hype video explicitly state "Actual game assets rendered in real time in engine" ? what engine was that? who produced that work?

My money's on Skrim mod with SweetFX. If only we looked closer.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 14:35

MeLKoR: Dec 23, 2004; by FactsAreUseless

Look! A Horse! posted:

longtime lurker here

If SC hadn't already begun production until after the kickstarter, why does the hype video explicitly state "Actual game assets rendered in real time in engine" ? what engine was that? who produced that work?

There are people now saying that development didn't start until 6 months after they were playing Arena Commander.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 14:38

Lack of Gravitas: Oct 11, 2012; Grimey Drawer

Megabound posted:

My money's on Skrim mod with SweetFX. If only we looked closer.

Impossible, only for the fact that there are no female models in Star Citizen, which is the core feature of all Bethesda games

# ? Nov 14, 2016 14:49

Lack of Gravitas: Oct 11, 2012; Grimey Drawer

Like, have you ever looked at what face and body mods are available at nexus and loverslab :barf:

# ? Nov 14, 2016 14:54

Tijuana Bibliophile: Dec 30, 2008; Scratchmo

Look! A Horse! posted:

longtime lurker here

If SC hadn't already begun production until after the kickstarter, why does the hype video explicitly state "Actual game assets rendered in real time in engine" ? what engine was that? who produced that work?

They threw all of that away so it doesn't count

It's why the 'broken mocap and Star Marine' period of January-October 2015 doesn't count either

# ? Nov 14, 2016 15:17

ripptide: Jul 28, 2016

Gradis posted:

i like haddock on my pizza. pineapple can gently caress off. i called my parent they still love me.

They lied

# ? Nov 14, 2016 15:23

Mr Fronts: Jan 31, 2016; Yo! The Mafia supports you. But don't tell no one. Spread the word.

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

They threw all of that away so it doesn't count

It's why the 'broken mocap and Star Marine' period of January-October 2015 doesn't count either

And, obviously,

Pre-production doesn't count as production.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 15:25

GazChap: Dec 4, 2004; I'm hungry. Feed me.

trucutru posted:

Do something funny with "Sandi Claws", I got nothing.

Sandi's claws are conning the brown (sea)

# ? Nov 14, 2016 15:32

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

Woo hoo, one of my replacement GPUs has come (I gave the other away like the fool that I am)

# ? Nov 14, 2016 15:34

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

Hang on, Derek doesn't like pizza?

# ? Nov 14, 2016 15:36

Sunswipe: Feb 5, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

All this bother over Derek not liking pizza makes me think you people want a leader who agrees with everything you say. And if that's the case, I've got just the game for you...

# ? Nov 14, 2016 15:39

MeLKoR: Dec 23, 2004; by FactsAreUseless

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

They threw all of that away so it doesn't count

It's why the 'broken mocap and Star Marine' period of January-October 2015 doesn't count either

They say we should forget the Morrow Tour but I often find myself wondering what the Gillian Anderson and Mark Hamill models would look like in the engine that brought us this.

Why don't you show us, Chris? All the capture is done, right? Show us something of what you captured with your magical eye.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 15:46

Zzr: Oct 6, 2016

This thread is wonderful. Many melt under our eyes, for a discount on a ship's image sold hundred of $. Then they connect that, with the no gameplay in the alpha, the forever more broken state of said alpha, the cash grab mechanics of selling image of ships for a game that don't exist, and don't take the way to exist. When will the first post that maybe Dr. Smart is right ?

# ? Nov 14, 2016 15:46

MeLKoR: Dec 23, 2004; by FactsAreUseless

peter gabriel posted:

Hang on, Derek doesn't like pizza?

Stop spreading FUD. Why don't you go back to :reddit:

with that poo poo?

Sunswipe posted:

All this bother over Derek not liking pizza makes me think you people want a leader who agrees with everything you say. And if that's the case, I've got just the game for you...

At least Derek wouldn't spit on our pizza before handing out the slices. :colbert:

# ? Nov 14, 2016 15:50

MeLKoR: Dec 23, 2004; by FactsAreUseless

# ? Nov 14, 2016 15:56

Sunswipe: Feb 5, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

MeLKoR posted:

At least Derek wouldn't spit on our pizza before handing out the slices.

It's not like spitting on pizza could make it worse.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 15:58

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# ? Jun 12, 2024 17:46

Bofast: Feb 21, 2011; Grimey Drawer

EightAce posted:

You have no idea how close you are .

Did Chris want to personally "improve" the gameplay video and ended up deleting most of the work at the last minute?
I'm guessing either that or they put it on a single computer and then did not bring that computer along

# ? Nov 14, 2016 16:05

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