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FruitPunchSamurai posted:You should just use Faris then unless you have platinum sword because her burst is a higher percent break compared to full break. Use them both if he has platinum sword. Faris with bsb for breakdowns, then use lifesiphon or a mechanist ability and one of the good thief 5*'s for dps (there are more comming). Ramza can just mix up whatever else you need. Banishing strike, armor breakdown or whatever.
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Faris can't use Lifesiphon and has to Dive for Machinist abilities.
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Nov 14, 2016 00:00
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She can Wrath, though. Admittedly, that messes with Shout, but it does work pretty well if you don't mind her doing (often, a lot) less damage. (This is something I tend to do more when I have her on mage teams, though... turns out having a dedicated Res/Mag/Attack/Fullbreaker isn't the worst use of your time at all for a mage support option.)
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Nov 14, 2016 00:05
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ApplesandOranges posted:Faris can't use Lifesiphon and has to Dive for Machinist abilities. Right, forgot she doesn't have combat stuff. But record diving is absolutely something he should do, as he already has her bsb. All the support stuff is covered already. give faris thief or shooter for dps and mechanist or celerity for statis infliction.
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Nov 14, 2016 00:23
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Ramza is probably the best first MC3 for me considering I have Hail of stones, shout, and tailwind for him, right? He basically never leaves my party anyway.
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Nov 14, 2016 00:38
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Vonnie posted:Ramza is probably the best first MC3 for me considering I have Hail of stones, shout, and tailwind for him, right? He basically never leaves my party anyway. his RM kinda sucks. i grabbed his crystal and then realized that i wasn't at all in a fussed to actually get him to 99
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Nov 14, 2016 00:43
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Yeah getting Ramza to 99 is great for giving him more stats but his RM is crap (just turns your attack into Thunder Strike).
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Nov 14, 2016 01:58
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I decided to do an 11 pull on the FFX banner a few minutes before it closed and got two Apocalypses and a Tidus's Strike for my trouble. Guess my Shout team has its newest member. I think somebody had mentioned there was something else I could equip him with that would boost his water damage besides the sword?
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Nov 14, 2016 02:07
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There's the Golden Hairpin, which is the only armour piece that has +Water. It's currently on the Not Human banner, and it'll return on the next FFIX banner.
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Nov 14, 2016 02:14
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Vonnie posted:Ramza is probably the best first MC3 for me considering I have Hail of stones, shout, and tailwind for him, right? He basically never leaves my party anyway. Good first candidate for MC3 is Luneth, because when he hits level 99 he gets an RM that gives you a 40% chance of receiving double EXP. Awesome for grinding. Level break him and egg him up
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Nov 14, 2016 02:18
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But don't use all of your eggs if you don't have a huge stockpile because OK is very soon and if you draw one of his relics you will really need to egg him up fast for the CMs.
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Nov 14, 2016 02:19
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:But don't use all of your eggs if you don't have a huge stockpile because OK is very soon and if you draw one of his relics you will really need to egg him up fast for the CMs. The FF3 event comes with an EXP dungeon which is (for FF3 characters) better than Sundaily and lasts for the entire duration of the event. You don't need to egg Onion.
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Nov 14, 2016 03:50
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Zurai posted:The FF3 event comes with an EXP dungeon which is (for FF3 characters) better than Sundaily and lasts for the entire duration of the event. You don't need to egg Onion. Is it equal or close to sundaily for non-III characters? Cause I'll definitely make the most of that if so.
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Nov 14, 2016 03:59
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Kawalimus posted:Is it equal or close to sundaily for non-III characters? Cause I'll definitely make the most of that if so. If the one that was in JP is the same, its ~130k exp per 30 stam stage.
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Nov 14, 2016 04:01
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IIRC, the FF3 EXP dungeon is a little worse than Sundaily for non-synergy characters (like 2/3 the experience), but of course it's open for 10 days instead of just one day a week. It's better experience by far than you can get anywhere else for the other 6 days a week.
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Zurai posted:The FF3 event comes with an EXP dungeon which is (for FF3 characters) better than Sundaily and lasts for the entire duration of the event. You don't need to egg Onion. You do if you don't want to S/L every time someone as much as looks at him.
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Alxprit posted:You do if you don't want to S/L every time someone as much as looks at him. Put him in the back row, have him defend, and give him Adel's Headgear and he can survive a hit.
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Nov 14, 2016 04:10
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Basically my logic here is what the heck else are you using your Eggs for if you're a day one player? I don't think I'll be in any trouble if I spend a good chunk of them.
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I'll egg him up I think. Omega Weapon and the whack-a-monster rewards really added to my egg collection. So then I can run some guys through it over the course of the event who I'm due to level down the road. Get those I, XIV, and Tactics guys ready to be able to do Cid Missions when their time comes.
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Nov 14, 2016 04:24
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Do 4 + 5* accessories from past events ever return? It took me awhile to figure out I could actually beat Ultimate battles and I ended up missing out on a lot of good accessories. Did I bone myself?
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Nov 14, 2016 08:10
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Yo if it is your first week and you have a Platinum Sword and an Artemis Bow, just unlock Faris and Ramza and laugh and have a good time as you faceroll basically everything for a while. Pick whichever one you like more first and get the other one second. Those are absurdly crazy good pulls and they will carry you for a while as you build up levels and hones to carry you through everything else.
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Hell, I'm at the point when I can kill U++ and most of the Nightmare bosses, and I still use Ramza and Faris most of the time. If you have Shout and Faris BSB they will last you for ages, go nuts.
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Nov 14, 2016 08:46
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If I have Faris + BSB, and I have Agrias + cleansing strike, which one is more valuable to have? I like having agrias for those sweet knight skills, and I still don't know how good Faris is when she isn't BSB'ing. I already ramza + shout, so I'm not hard up for support. What do you think?
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Lechtansi posted:If I have Faris + BSB, and I have Agrias + cleansing strike, which one is more valuable to have? I like having agrias for those sweet knight skills, and I still don't know how good Faris is when she isn't BSB'ing. I already ramza + shout, so I'm not hard up for support.  Faris is the Swiss Army Support and you can use her as a machinist, dancer, or thief if Ramza is covering most of your support options. Agrias is a spellblade/knight and doesn't fill the same niche as the other two at all.
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Lechtansi posted:If I have Faris + BSB, and I have Agrias + cleansing strike, which one is more valuable to have? I like having agrias for those sweet knight skills, and I still don't know how good Faris is when she isn't BSB'ing. I already ramza + shout, so I'm not hard up for support. Both, my dude. Cleansing Strike stacks with everything Faris brings on her BSB. Nothing Faris does will conflict with Ramza either if you run Thief's Revenge and Mug Bloodlust on Faris and Armor Breakdown with another filler skill on Ramza. Edit: but idk what your overall status is in the game w/r/t ability access and hones, if you don't have access to high-end stuff like Thief's Revenge and Mug Bloodlust you might be better off leaving Ramza on the bench and RWing Shout, or leaving Faris on the bench and just taking Full Break + Breakdown on Ramza. Agrias should pretty much always be on your team either way though. Chillgamesh fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Nov 14, 2016 |
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Heaven Spacey posted:Both, my dude. Cleansing Strike stacks with everything Faris brings on her BSB. Nothing Faris does will conflict with Ramza either if you run Thief's Revenge and Mug Bloodlust on Faris and Armor Breakdown with another filler skill on Ramza. I'm a day 1 player, so I have both mug bloodlust and thiefs revenge. I haven't honed either of them, I could probably hone thiefs. The reason why I'm trying to decide between the two is because I already have a solid a-team of Butz w/ BSB, Greg w/ BSB, Ramza w/ shout, Agrias w/ cleansing and Yoshi Cola with SS2. I could see replacing Greg, because his BSB isn't that useful, but having a permanent saints cross user is handy (although I could have Agrias use it, since she is my shellga carrier if I need it and protectga and she otherwise carries lifesiphon).
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Switched over to my lv99 Ashe with Dusk's Decree. 427 MAG, which should translate to 575 magic vs Omega. Friend code: FMsa
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Lechtansi posted:I'm a day 1 player, so I have both mug bloodlust and thiefs revenge. I haven't honed either of them, I could probably hone thiefs. Agrias kind of steps on both Bartz and Greg's toes, depending; you could drop either of them as needed since Agrias can carry Bartz's spellblades or she can carry Greg's Saint Crosses. Keep in mind that Greg can also use Dragoon 4 (or dive to Dragoon 5) and Samurai 5 as needed, though, whereas Bartz has... Dismissal and Snowstorm Strike, I guess?  And, naturally, the elemental utility of his BSB.
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KataraniSword posted:Agrias kind of steps on both Bartz and Greg's toes, depending; you could drop either of them as needed since Agrias can carry Bartz's spellblades or she can carry Greg's Saint Crosses. Keep in mind that Greg can also use Dragoon 4 (or dive to Dragoon 5) and Samurai 5 as needed, though, whereas Bartz has... Dismissal and Snowstorm Strike, I guess? Bartz gets 5* spellblade skills, which will be relevant soon enough.
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Is there any particular reason to keep the MC in your party? I've just been kinda bumbling along, cleared part 1 of the FFX event before it ended so I could get Auron and Yuna to make use of the soul break relics I got for em. Got one for Zell from an 11 pull that I'm having the MC dude use for the time being but when I eventually get Zell should I swap him in?
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Not at this early stage. Eventually you'll want to level Tyro to at least 65 so you can get his Record Materia, though. Feel free to take him out of your party until you're ready to level him.
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Sprite141 posted:Bartz gets 5* spellblade skills, which will be relevant soon enough. He has it by default. Also Tornado Strike is good.
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IcePhoenix posted:He has it by default. Also Tornado Strike is good. I think Sprite just meant "there's more reasons for 5* Spellblade than Tornado Strike, soon". Ibram Gaunt posted:Is there any particular reason to keep the MC in your party? I've just been kinda bumbling along, cleared part 1 of the FFX event before it ended so I could get Auron and Yuna to make use of the soul break relics I got for em. Got one for Zell from an 11 pull that I'm having the MC dude use for the time being but when I eventually get Zell should I swap him in? Tyro/Keeper/whatever you want to call him has two advantages: One, a decent chunk of his relic-based SBs are loving bonkers (Sentinel's Grimoire is god mode vs anything without defense-ignore, Keeper's Tome is amazing too, Stormlance Grimoire is SSB level damage on a normal SB, etc) and two, he can use literally any equipment or skill in the game. You will never not be able to make him fit into a party, and he will always be able to carry around whatever synergy gear you have. His downside, on the other hand, is that his stats are pretty bad in comparison, which is why a lot of people use him as a healer/dancer/ninja/support if they give him a permanent slot, since those roles don't need particularly high stats to be effective.
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Will we ever get more of those tokens to unlock 6* abilities? Certain characters I didn't use before, and therefore didn't use my tokens on them, are now on my A team because I got relics for them, so I regret some of those choices I made and wonder if well ever see more?
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Yes, but the dungeons for them are 200 difficulty and supposedly rather unfun. Also I don't think they cover every 5* mote yet in JP.
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Ok, so if I do use Faris, she won't have BSB access right away since I need shout and SS2 first turn. Is full break ok to wait for until halfway through the fight?
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Lechtansi posted:Ok, so if I do use Faris, she won't have BSB access right away since I need shout and SS2 first turn. Is full break ok to wait for until halfway through the fight?
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Is there any particular reason to keep the MC in your party? I've just been kinda bumbling along, cleared part 1 of the FFX event before it ended so I could get Auron and Yuna to make use of the soul break relics I got for em. Got one for Zell from an 11 pull that I'm having the MC dude use for the time being but when I eventually get Zell should I swap him Tyro is a very good character. Essential even if you pull Sentinel Grimore. While his stats are pretty mediocre before record diving, his utility is just ridiculous. Also he'll be the one the one to use leftover synergy equipment that others can't use making his bad stats not quite as damning.
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SageAcrin posted:Yes, but the dungeons for them are 200 difficulty and supposedly rather unfun. The Torment dungeons aren't really unfun. Geosgaeno is hard as gently caress, but the others are all fairly reasonable for difficulty 200-250 dungeons. And the trash is actually somewhat of a benefit because it gives you a chance to build up SB gauge on everyone before the boss(es).
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iPodschun posted:What are you RWing? When I use Faris and Ramza, I put the gauge RMs on them and use RW wall. I typically RW a medica - usually selphies. Right now I put the gauge RMs on yoshi and ramza.
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