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I have just got Command and Control alongside the core set. If I want to play Shapers or Haas-Bioroid anyway, how essential is that second core set?
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TheParadigm posted:You can do it, just believe in the heart of the cards and netrun like you have never run before! I somehow managed to finish in 4th place and come home with an alt art PAD Campaign and a deck box and play mat featuring Run Amok. My corp carried me, basically. RP grindy prison, 3-1 in Swiss and 2-0 after the top 8 cut, while my runner was Smoke and went 2-2 in Swiss and 0-2 after the cut.
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Nov 14, 2016 06:16
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CirclMastr posted:I somehow managed to finish in 4th place and come home with an alt art PAD Campaign and a deck box and play mat featuring Run Amok. My corp carried me, basically. RP grindy prison, 3-1 in Swiss and 2-0 after the top 8 cut, while my runner was Smoke and went 2-2 in Swiss and 0-2 after the cut.
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Nov 14, 2016 06:22
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As NBN, land a HHN early and control out the board state. Once smoke is set up she wins, so you beat her by hitting her hard early game. As HB? Stack sentries as a tax if playing switchblade. Then FA out agendas because she probably doesn't have the influence for clot. berenzen fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Nov 14, 2016 |
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Nov 14, 2016 06:35
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First loss after the cut was to rushy HB. Eli makes Blackstone cry. Second was to FA CTM running Cyberdex to kill Clot. Double Data Ravens on R&D make Switchblade cry. So the lesson is, run Refractor/Dagger/Corroder instead.
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Nov 14, 2016 06:43
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Congrats on getting 4th! Glad to hear that deck worked out for you, it was really fun to play against while you were tweaking it last-minute.
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Nov 14, 2016 06:54
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Baron Fuzzlewhack posted:it was really fun to play against You don't have to lie. It's miserable to play against.
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Nov 14, 2016 07:09
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I can see how it could be miserable for some, but I thought it was one of the more interesting and interactive decks that I've played against. I think horizontal mind games, when played certain ways, can be more fun and Netrunnery than your typical fast advance or quick-kill decks that don't offer much in the way of interaction. Playing against your deck was like trying to solve a puzzle while also trying to determine how you would build/lay out that puzzle. It was a weirdly laid back game considering you were trying to kill me slowly.
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Nov 14, 2016 08:43
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Do you have a link to said grindy RP deck? I'm desperately casting about for Jinteki decks to play which actually work at the moment.
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Nov 14, 2016 09:31
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RP Grindhouse (5-1 SC) Jinteki: Replicating Perfection (Trace Amount) Agenda (9) 1x Clone Retirement (Second Thoughts) 3x Fetal AI (Trace Amount) 3x Global Food Initiative (Data and Destiny) 2x The Future Perfect (Honor and Profit) Asset (22) 3x Bio-Ethics Association (Democracy and Dogma) 1x Commercial Bankers Group (Democracy and Dogma) 3x Hostile Infrastructure (All That Remains) 2x Jackson Howard (Opening Moves) 2x Mental Health Clinic (Honor and Profit) 3x Museum of History (Kala Ghoda) 3x Shock! (True Colors) 2x Snare! (Core Set) 3x Sundew (Mala Tempora) Operation (11) 2x Ark Lockdown (Escalation) 1x Best Defense (Intervention) 2x Enhanced Login Protocol (The Spaces Between) 3x Hedge Fund (Core Set) 3x Neural EMP (Core Set) Barrier (2) 2x Vanilla (The Liberated Mind) Code Gate (7) 2x Aiki (Blood Money) 1x DNA Tracker (Escalation) 2x Quandary (Double Time) 2x Yagura (Fear and Loathing) Sentry (3) 2x Komainu (Honor and Profit) 1x Tsurugi (True Colors) 15 influence spent (max 15, available 0) 22 agenda points (between 22 and 23) 54 cards (min 45) Cards up to Intervention I don't know whether I should do a writeup and publish it or not. Apparently there's no tag for the new 2017 store champ cycle. Commercial Bankers Group probably did the least work, so that's two influence and a deck slot up for grabs. I'd probably make it an ICE instead of, say, a third Jackson. Tour Guide, Ichi 1.0, something taxing like that.
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Nov 14, 2016 17:00
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As a Crim player at heart, who will cry tears when Leela rotates out, let me preemptively wish you death and hatred for that RP deck the next time I have to face it.
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I wouldn't worry about it. Jinteki's apparently getting a ton of new net damage awesomeness, which means people will tech against it, depowering the grindhouse deck.
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Nov 14, 2016 22:57
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They've spoiled Reaver, Apex's new card. And it's pretty close to being what he needed! Of course, now you need to figure out your MU situation, but hey. Also notable that it triggers when you trash installed Corp stuff.
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Nov 15, 2016 00:52
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More proof that FFG's marketing team knows sweet gently caress all about netrunner: They slotted in reaver as a resource, not a program in their sample deck.
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Nov 15, 2016 01:05
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The Lord of Hats posted:Of course, now you need to figure out your MU situation, but hey. What else does Apex usually do with their 1 MU from Heartbeat?
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berenzen posted:More proof that FFG's marketing team knows sweet gently caress all about netrunner: They slotted in reaver as a resource, not a program in their sample deck. On the one hand, this is a simple mistake that I can easily see myself doing. On the other hand, I'm laughing a lot right now.
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Nov 15, 2016 02:05
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CirclMastr posted:What else does Apex usually do with their 1 MU from Heartbeat? Gingerbread for bullshit like Resistor that keeps him out.
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CirclMastr posted:What else does Apex usually do with their 1 MU from Heartbeat? Actual breakers that let them get past real ICE.
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Nov 15, 2016 02:09
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Ive always found it funny apex is a Weyland hard counter
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Nov 15, 2016 02:30
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StashAugustine posted:Ive always found it funny apex is a Weyland hard counter Hey now, Weyland has Caduceus, and... Uh.... Wormhole... Umm... Bulwark? Mausolus with 3 advancement?
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Nov 15, 2016 03:23
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The Lord of Hats posted:They've spoiled Reaver, Apex's new card. And it's pretty close to being what he needed! Of course, now you need to figure out your MU situation, but hey. Also notable that it triggers when you trash installed Corp stuff.
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I've played Apex a bit recently with an Out of the Ashes / Exclusive Party build and he's fun, but it's really obvious he only exists to give Apocalypse some flavor, and you're much better off playing Apocalypse in Shaper or Anarch than trying to make him work. There's so many cards that counter Endless Hunger that I think you're better off with Ddos, Blackmail and similar cards to get your three central accesses.
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StashAugustine posted:Ive always found it funny apex is a Weyland hard counter Advance Ice Wall 11 times 
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Hannibal Rex posted:Advance Ice Wall 11 times I advanced a Hadrian's to get it out of endless hunger range. It worked, but I had won anyway.
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Hannibal Rex posted:Advance Ice Wall 11 times
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Hannibal Rex posted:I've played Apex a bit recently with an Out of the Ashes / Exclusive Party build and he's fun, but it's really obvious he only exists to give Apocalypse some flavor, and you're much better off playing Apocalypse in Shaper or Anarch than trying to make him work. There's so many cards that counter Endless Hunger that I think you're better off with Ddos, Blackmail and similar cards to get your three central accesses. Funnily enough, I run DDoS in my Apex. It's "no non-Virtual resources," not "no resources"
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My mistake for the ambiguous wording. I meant you might be better off importing cards like DDoS and ways to make Blackmail work into Apex than trying to figure out how to supplement Endless Hunger best. That Apocalypse works better in Shaper or Anarch is a different point.
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Nov 15, 2016 16:56
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Apex just has so many different problems going on that it's hard to say exactly what would fix him, Reaver does look good but it exacerbates his memory problem bad e: v yeah StashAugustine fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Nov 15, 2016 |
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Nov 15, 2016 18:56
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Reaver triggers off trashing corp cards, right? (E.g. paying a trash cost or using imp.)
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Static Equilibrium posted:Reaver triggers off trashing corp cards, right? (E.g. paying a trash cost or using imp.) Correct. It's the best Professor card printed in a while.
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The Consumed Virtual Resource, 0 cost, 2 influence As an additional cost to install The Consumed, you must trash an installed program. +2 MU
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https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2016/11/16/2016-world-championships-recap/ World champion info graph. Interesting to see that netrunner is their second biggest gameline in terms of competitive play. berenzen fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Nov 16, 2016 |
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I like that the X-Wing champ has a name that wouldn't be out of place in Star Wars. But I am very glad that the Star Wars stuff is getting its own tourney track. With Destiny and L5R getting added into the mix, this already crowded event would become a Cronenbergian sea of pallid flesh and unkempt beards.
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ZorajitZorajit posted:I like that the X-Wing champ has a name that wouldn't be out of place in Star Wars. May 3rd-7th for Star Wars gaming. That's cute, I see what they did there.
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Like 2 people here in my town actually play. I wanna play more real life games.
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quote:Folding ?? Str - ?? Rez
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:What would you begin to cost/str that at? What happens if you host Scorched Earth/Traffic Accident? Or an operation that costs clicks? Or Biotic Labor that gives you clicks when it's not your turn?
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CirclMastr posted:What happens if you host Scorched Earth/Traffic Accident? Or an operation that costs clicks? Or Biotic Labor that gives you clicks when it's not your turn? I assume that (due to the wording) Doubles would be unplayable, since you can't pay all costs, as you have no clicks. Not sure what Biotic labor would do, I don't think you can spend clicks on the runner's turn, but then they did errata Chairman Haas just to sidestep that particular issue. I could add "if able" to the end of it, which would handle any provisional ops like Scorched Earth.
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Even setting all that aside, host Restructure, make 15 credits.
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CirclMastr posted:Even setting all that aside, host Restructure, make 15 credits. Even that would be milquetoast. 2 cards, a click, and maybe firing IF the Runner makes a run on that server. Remember, operations go to the archives on resolution.
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