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| Goku |
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202 | 7.09% |
| Vegeta |
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279 | 9.79% |
| Krillin |
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208 | 7.30% |
| Piccolo or his nameks |
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212 | 7.44% |
| Gohan or Cool Gohan |
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135 | 4.74% |
| Yamcha |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Tien |
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120 | 4.21% |
| Muten Roshi |
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89 | 3.12% |
| Tao Pai Pai |
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71 | 2.49% |
| Frieza |
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69 | 2.42% |
| Cell or an android |
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86 | 3.02% |
| Buu |
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62 | 2.18% |
| Hercule "Mark" Satan |
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327 | 11.48% |
| Videl |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Bulma |
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104 | 3.65% |
| Yajirobe |
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99 | 3.47% |
| Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy |
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68 | 2.39% |
| King kai or another kai |
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53 | 1.86% |
| Chi-Chi |
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83 | 2.91% |
| Goten |
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43 | 1.51% |
| Trunks or Cool Trunks |
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112 | 3.93% |
| Bardock |
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48 | 1.68% |
| Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) |
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41 | 1.44% |
| Uub |
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42 | 1.47% |
| Oolong |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Zamasu |
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26 | 0.91% |
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ImpAtom posted:To be fair if you believe Xenoverse then Future Gohan also had his own unique Super Saiyan Form And the pre-split Kami/Piccolo was named "Katas".. It's the first time I've heard that name mentioned. Like, ever.
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Nov 14, 2016 18:39
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Rutibex posted:Just because Babidi is dead doesn't mean Buu is sealed forever. Someone could just go to Hell and learn the spell from him, hes around. Everyone just chilling in hell is a Toei invention. The only person we saw in hell was Freeza, and he was stuck in his own personal hell where he couldn't even get out of a cocoon. And people in heaven are just spirits unless they are allowed to keep their body with special permission.
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Nov 14, 2016 18:40
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New Leaf posted:And the pre-split Kami/Piccolo was named "Katas".. It's the first time I've heard that name mentioned. Like, ever. If Xenoverse says that they got it mixed up. There's a line where Guru refers to the pre-split Namekian as "the child of Katas" but obviously that isn't the dude's name.
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Nov 14, 2016 18:42
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ImpAtom posted:If Xenoverse says that they got it mixed up. There's a line where Guru refers to the pre-split Namekian as "the child of Katas" but obviously that isn't the dude's name. It's part of a little quiz you can take in the middle of town in XV2. The wiki picked up on it too.
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Nov 14, 2016 18:49
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New Leaf posted:It's part of a little quiz you can take in the middle of town in XV2. The wiki picked up on it too. I just checked and the Wiki agrees with me: http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Katas quote:Katas (カタッツ) was an ancient Namekian and the father of the Nameless Namekian As I said, if Xenoverse said that was the Nameless Namekian's name then they made a mistake or it was mistranslated.
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Nov 14, 2016 19:01
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Blaze Dragon posted:A Super Saiyan Ningen Super Saiyan (SSNSS for short, translated as SSMSS or SSHSS in the unofficial subtitles) You can do better than that. Super Saiyan Sinner Super Saiyan! Which, yeah, is not SS2. It could be a different transformation track that the main cast didn't realise existed at all, or it could be something unique to Trunks. I'd like to think it's something you can only get by totally rejecting divinity and the willpower required for that (where god ki is about trying to reach that level). That would make it edgelordy as gently caress, but I mean, pretty much every part of the Future Trunks saga is super edgy, from evil Goku to an evil Kaioshin that wants to pass divine judgement to Trunks becoming a Godslayer who has literal dialogue about accepting his place as a sinner in defiance of gods.
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Nov 14, 2016 19:07
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Is Kibito a deity, if the Potara fusion between him and Supreme Kai is permanent? Does Zamasu, as Goku Black, count as a deity if his Potara fusion to regular Zamasu is permanent?
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Nov 14, 2016 19:17
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If you really, REALLY wanna conjecture about unseen (and likely to not be explained) stuff, assume that both Vegeta and Trunks picked up the Blue form thru training with Whis' methodology - Trunks just didn't have the time to master it/Vegeta wasn't that good of a trainer/Trunks being half-human means he doesn't go full Blue. He was able to unlock a bit of that power thru Saiyan anger tho, and there's precedent for half-Saiyans to have a way easier time reaching transformations than the full-breeds.
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Nov 14, 2016 19:25
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KidneyKai posted:Is Kibito a deity, if the Potara fusion between him and Supreme Kai is permanent? Kibito is a deity, yes. He's a Shinjin like the Kaios and Kaioshins, but apparently of lower rank. The Super manga even points out that Kibito has a low opinion on mortals. It's hard to say where Goku Black falls. Vegetto points out that the now-Fused Zamasu will always have a mortal inside of him, but at the same time, Black was Zamasu at first. Fusions gives his race as Otherworlder like the other deities rather than Saiyan, but that's hardly a perfect source. That said, we never see Fusion Zamasu break up and they don't seem to think it will happen, so we can assume that Black still counts as a deity.
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Nov 14, 2016 19:29
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Blaze Dragon posted:Kibito is a deity, yes. He's a Shinjin like the Kaios and Kaioshins, but apparently of lower rank. The Super manga even points out that Kibito has a low opinion on mortals. Black also has a form of super saiyan unique to him--the only floating explanation for what the hell super saiyan rose is, is "super saiyan with the soul of a god." Somehow, the mechanics of a super saiyan transcend genetics and the physical body, and fusion might do that as well.
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Nov 14, 2016 19:35
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Poison Mushroom posted:Oh my god shut the gently caress up about power levels already no
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Nov 14, 2016 19:40
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If you can't stand power levels then what is even the point of being here's
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Nov 14, 2016 19:51
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The simplest explanation for fusion permanence would be that only one of them needs to be a god.
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Nov 14, 2016 19:57
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Poison Mushroom posted:Oh my god shut the gently caress up about power levels already I for one am a big fan of power levels.
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Nov 14, 2016 19:58
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Blaze Dragon posted:Kibito is a deity, yes. He's a Shinjin like the Kaios and Kaioshins, but apparently of lower rank. The Super manga even points out that Kibito has a low opinion on mortals. Even if he does not. It's probably permanent just because one half of the fusion is a deity. Elder Kai got fused with a Crone so I am guessing it's permanent so long as one part of it is a god.
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Nov 14, 2016 19:59
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Poison Mushroom posted:Oh my god shut the gently caress up about power levels already If you hate power levels you may actually hate Dragon Ball
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Nov 14, 2016 20:04
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You guys are forgetting the best part of the episode; the epic faces.       
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Nov 14, 2016 20:29
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I like DB. I especially enjoy super. gently caress powerlevels ^^^ Did they phone in the yugioh face guys I know I would have.
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Nov 14, 2016 20:29
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Super owns. Anyone who has a problem with Trunks getting the kill is bad. I hope Zen-O restores Trunks' earth as a thank you for saving his friend/being literally the only competent character in both series.
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Nov 14, 2016 20:34
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The developers that made the Legacy of Goku games are apparently looking to kickstart a new one in the near future, and they're just throwing out every concept they can think of and going to leave it up to backers' votes to decide what they actually do. lol
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Nov 14, 2016 20:43
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Way i see it, its not the strain of power up what limits fusion time, its the power itself. Like a ningen is a computer but a fusion is an unplugged laptop with high end specs, it may be running ssb.exe extremely smoothly but the high performance mode being used will drain the battery in minutes. But it wasn't really an option to defeat Beerus before. The reason Goku and Vegeta fused this time was because they were in a life or death situation where all hope seemed lost, and even then Vegeta had to be talked into it. Unless Beerus decided to try and destroy Earth again, there is no reason for Goku and Vegeta to consider fusing to defeat him because they both want to reach that level on their own.
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Nov 14, 2016 20:44
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Gruckles posted:The developers that made the Legacy of Goku games are apparently looking to kickstart a new one in the near future, and they're just throwing out every concept they can think of and going to leave it up to backers' votes to decide what they actually do. lol Can they Can they even DO that? Legally?
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Nov 14, 2016 20:49
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I bet if Krillin and Goku had used the Stacking Inside a Trenchcoat technique they could've beat Jackie Chun and won their first Tournament.
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Nov 14, 2016 20:50
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Rhonne posted:But it wasn't really an option to defeat Beerus before. The reason Goku and Vegeta fused this time was because they were in a life or death situation where all hope seemed lost, and even then Vegeta had to be talked into it. Unless Beerus decided to try and destroy Earth again, there is no reason for Goku and Vegeta to consider fusing to defeat him because they both want to reach that level on their own. I know, they never would've done it, but least I always thought "oh, but if they had to, Vegitto so would win, maybe Whis saying they'd be unstoppable together is hinting to that.." and now that's entirely out of the window because even in a scenario as desperate as this one Vegitto would only last like ten minutes or something. Like, it wouldn't have happened, but just the thought of "Vegitto would win now." was in the back of my head and now it's been shattered and i'm kinda hyped.
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Nov 14, 2016 20:51
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Burkion posted:Can they If they can figure out the licensing then sure. It's not like there haven't been crowd funding projects that work with other partners behind the scenes.
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Nov 14, 2016 20:52
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ImpAtom posted:There is absolutely no indication that pre-god Vegeto would have had any significant success against Beerus? You can make arguments about SSB Vegeto but that is why the time limit is a good thing. It means Goku and Vegeta's solution to the "how to beat Beerus" issue isn't just a fusion. Vegeto wouldn't, but Vegeta might've. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-wkAw2tuYw Using that outrage every time might be hard even for Vegeta however.
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Nov 14, 2016 21:27
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Burkion posted:Can they
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Nov 14, 2016 21:27
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Mordaedil posted:Vegeto wouldn't, but Vegeta might've. if they had fused and then Beerus slapped Bulma AND Chi-Chi then maybe Vegito would have won
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Nov 14, 2016 21:35
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I think there'd have been less objections to Vegito's outing if he'd gotten a decent killshot off before he defused, that could even be why he defused. Super's been quite light on the setpiece attacks in general, but Final Flash Kamehameha was shot with less impact than the Masenko and Galick Gun Trunks did on Black a few episodes back which is kinda lame if you think about it, like do you remember the scene where Vegeta created Final Flash, or when Goku used the Warp Kamehameha? I think if the director had at least committed to that attack, give Zamasu an 'oh poo poo!' moment before having Vegito defuse from the sheer scope of his attack before it could seal the deal I think fans would feel a little less blueballed by his exit. Overall it's been a fantastic arc though, a few misgivings about the style of the fights aside. Zamasu's been a top-class villain, every major scene Trunks was involved in was insanely cool, VEGITO! Only seen the last five or so episodes but glad Super seems to have finally pulled itself together.
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Nov 14, 2016 21:36
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Mordaedil posted:Vegeto wouldn't, but Vegeta might've. As Beerus later said while the burst in power caught him offguard. It still did not hurt him and it just means he had to put next to no effort to beat him instead of no effort.
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Nov 14, 2016 21:36
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where were you people when mystic gohan did gently caress all
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Nov 14, 2016 21:39
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Endorph posted:where were you people when mystic gohan did gently caress all Presumably in school or not born considering it happened in 1996! (ooooooold)
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Nov 14, 2016 21:44
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where were you when mystic gohan became the savior of humankind, the great saiyaman?
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Nov 14, 2016 21:52
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If Future Gohan had ascended to Great Saiyaman he could have single-handedly beaten the Androids.
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Nov 14, 2016 21:54
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Endorph posted:where were you people when mystic gohan did gently caress all Mystic Gohan was some cheatcode bullshit though, he slacked for a decade and then tried to catch up by having his 'potential' released for the tenth time. Vegito is the fusion of the two most fightingest men in existence, it's right and good that Trunks got the kill but he at least deserved a finisher that would wrack up 3 million views on youtube or something of the sort.
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Nov 14, 2016 22:03
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Raxivace posted:If Future Gohan had ascended to Great Saiyaman he could have single-handedly beaten the Androids. This is 
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Nov 14, 2016 22:03
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Endorph posted:where were you people when mystic gohan did gently caress all Being sad at how far Gohan had fallen since the Cell arc.
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Nov 14, 2016 22:24
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Vegito would have felt better to me if they knew it was going to be a super short fusion and were going all-out frantically, trying to beat Zamasu before they lost the fusion. Would have made it really tense and fun
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Nov 14, 2016 22:28
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I thought Vegito getting cast off like that was pretty funny in a way. Like yeah we all saw him coming but who saw a fusion getting chumped for the kill shot like that? I thought it was pretty funny. Maybe I was too excited by the idea of a spirit bomb moonlight greatsword which then actually happened
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Nov 14, 2016 22:44
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No one knows how Buu's body works. Just because that de-fusion occurred doesn't mean we should take it as the reason and cause for the de-fusion. Taking everything as a matter of fact ruins canon. No one knows how Potaras works because the Kais don't mingle with ningen unless it's necessary. Do they even have a manual for it? Have they actually tried to experiment with them by using it on ningen? Are they just talking out of their rear end? Praise the writers for exposing the dirty ningens and their canon bible on Gokuism.
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Nov 14, 2016 22:48
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