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Spacebump posted:Was Harrison Barnes the 2nd best signing of the offseason? (Off the top of my head another contender for this is Dwight) Eric Gordon has an argument if we are factoring in cap hit, maybe. Barnes has been fantastic though, no question
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EvanTH posted:Although the Knicks will probably stay worse than the Nets. It's not the KNicks faults that somehow the Nets have been motivated to play like a kid's league promised a trip to Pizza Hut if they win.
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I suppose it must be all the "next LeBron" hype but a lot of fans around the league seem weirdly pessimistic about Wiggins. He's still only 21, came into a pretty rough situation, is steadily improving, can already score like an All-Star, and has all the tools necessary to eventually be a great defender. His shot is looking good and he's way more comfortable handling the ball (his biggest weakness at KU). He is kind of a black hole right now but I suspect that'll improve as well.
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I don't think enough people are talking about the hidden potential of former 1st round pick Anthony Bennett
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Spacebump posted:Was Harrison Barnes the 2nd best signing of the offseason? (Off the top of my head another contender for this is Dwight) Depends what you rate. I still think Cole Aldrich was a goddamn bargain for the Timberwolves and it hasn't been at all dissented from that. Tim Frazier's looking incredible for what is 2 years/4 million.
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Rick posted:It's not the KNicks faults that somehow the Nets have been motivated to play like a kid's league promised a trip to Pizza Hut if they win. It's never been even a question that the billionaire Russian nickel oligarch is a more effective business manager than the guy who inherited the media company from his dad. It was just a matter of how long it would take the Nets to recover from Prokhorov's original misapprehension of the league's workings when he thought he could buy a championship team.
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Criminal Minded posted:I suppose it must be all the "next LeBron" hype but a lot of fans around the league seem weirdly pessimistic about Wiggins. He's still only 21, came into a pretty rough situation, is steadily improving, can already score like an All-Star, and has all the tools necessary to eventually be a great defender. His shot is looking good and he's way more comfortable handling the ball (his biggest weakness at KU). He is kind of a black hole right now but I suspect that'll improve as well. That's pretty universal for intriguing young players on bad teams. Wiggins will probably ride the overrated/underrated roller coaster for another season or two until the Wolves are good enough to actually get national games on a regular basis and fans can draw opinions somewhat based in fact.
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I don't think Wiggins ever really got "next Lebron" hype, and he certainly plays a very different type of game. He's never going to be putting up rebounding or assist numbers anywhere near what LeBron does, for example.
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IcePhoenix posted:I don't think Wiggins ever really got "next Lebron" hype, and he certainly plays a very different type of game. He's never going to be putting up rebounding or assist numbers anywhere near what LeBron does, for example. Wiggins 100% got the next Lebron hype http://www.businessinsider.com/andrew-wiggins-next-lebron-2013-5
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IcePhoenix posted:I don't think Wiggins ever really got "next Lebron" hype, and he certainly plays a very different type of game. He's never going to be putting up rebounding or assist numbers anywhere near what LeBron does, for example. It would be more accurate to say "best prospect since LeBron" which was the hype on him out of high school
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CP3 has started the season so strongly that he's jumped into the #1 WS/48 of all-time slot:code:IcePhoenix posted:I saw that yesterday and I still want to know where that drat music is from Gremins 2: The New Batch on the NES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAbSoFUBsMk Some of my favorite 8-bit NES music. Batman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTHHh9EB53A Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEA8cievfUE The Legend of Zelda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHIQTyBaGhw That channel has a ton. Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Wasn't Antoine Walker actually pretty good? Pretty good at shooting his teams out of any game. He has a career TS% of 48% which is awful for his era. He was the worst NBA shooter in 1997 and 2003. Zogo fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Nov 14, 2016 |
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Yeah especially in Canada, the hype for Wiggins was unreal. Dude was getting feature GQ articles on him, Stephen Harper was tweeting about him while he was in high school, he absolutely was getting hyped an insane amount. Canadian sports networks were showing pretty much every Kansas game (we normally consign college basketball to obscure sports channels but he got Kansas onto primetime TV). It actually slowed down after his decent but not exceptional college career, most of the hype was from when he was still in high school. Normally I don't even pay attention to high school players but it spilled over everywhere. Anecdotally Canadians wrote off the entirety of 2013 draft (for uh, probably good reason) but "Wiggins is better than everyone in the draft, just you wait till next year!!!!!" was a pretty common thing to hear in the immediate aftermath of the 2013 draft. However, googling about this brings me the even better Harper tweet where he confused Lowry and Anthony Bennett. http://www.cbc.ca/sports/basketball/stephen-harper-s-tweet-mistakes-anthony-bennett-for-kyle-lowry-1.3000839
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https://twitter.com/JLew1050/status/798222248029065216 Demar: So what are you telling me, that I'll be able to make threes? Casey: No Demar, I'm saying that when youre ready, you wont have to
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Wiggins complete college season toned his hype down a little but yeah he was definitely getting Lebron level hype coming into school and it didn't go away even after it started.
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Crazy that Kansas had both Wiggins and Embiid, didn't do much with it although Embiid I think was hurt for the tournament
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Spacebump posted:Was Harrison Barnes the 2nd best signing of the offseason? (Off the top of my head another contender for this is Dwight) After Wade, yeah, probably.
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Spacebump posted:Was Harrison Barnes the 2nd best signing of the offseason? (Off the top of my head another contender for this is Dwight) Boban
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MourningView posted:The season is like a month old maybe give it a bit before assuming that Wiggins is actually a good outside shooter now I still fondly remember the first half of Brandon Jennings rookie year
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Zogo posted:Gremins 2: The New Batch on the NES: I'm actually kind of terrified that you knew this but thank you all the same
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Zogobot dropping the 8 bit jams, I love it
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https://twitter.com/BillWalton/status/798238655059894272 Him name walton yellow bike https://twitter.com/BillWalton/status/798248439335174144
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"Are you going to email my bike" is a decent thread title.
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Gynecolojustice posted:Crazy that Kansas had both Wiggins and Embiid, didn't do much with it although Embiid I think was hurt for the tournament Thats what happens when you have a college coach who refuses to change his system to fit his players. "Yeah, Wiggins is definitely being used well by spending 95% of his time playing offball"
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updating my list A comprehensive list of things that have caused Bill Walton to lose his temper 1) Hawaiian Airlines 2) Rasheed Wallace 3) Trailblazers medical staff 4) Pac-10 Refereeing 5) The war in Vietnam
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Cool Buff Man posted:https://twitter.com/BillWalton/status/798238655059894272 The greatest part about this is that it lead me to check out his twitter feed which is literally just him indivdiually replying "thanks" to hundreds of people saying "I hope you get your bike back" messages. That TMNT 8 bit soundtrack was so good!
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lol drat  ! ! UPDATE:https://twitter.com/BillWalton/status/798326342685102081
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Gynecolojustice posted:Crazy that Kansas had both Wiggins and Embiid, didn't do much with it although Embiid I think was hurt for the tournament They only started to gel in a way that you'd think for about three games before Embiid hurt his back and was basically done for the season. But in that moment I saw the glory. By the way, Wiggins set the Kansas freshman scoring mark (Wilt didn't play his freshman year) and scored in double figures in 29/35 games including 41, 30, 22 and 19 in his last four games before the Stanford debacle. It pisses me off when people say he had a pedestrian college career, freshmen don't do that at KU. The Glumslinger posted:Thats what happens when you have a college coach who refuses to change his system to fit his players. Wiggins was a 3 with a bad handle but you think they should have run the offense through him? So he can develop and the team can lose? kiimo fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Nov 15, 2016 |
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I thought they didn't play him in the post at all at KU, which was probably a mistake as he was pretty good at that at the NBA level right away. His handle was also not that bad coming into the NBA, enough that I think letting him try to penetrate on a dribble drive would be a bad idea. I didn't watch the college game, so I'm basically going off announcers complaining he should have been used differently in Kansas.
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I know people hated the Derozan thing, but Wiggins at the 2 really abused the poo poo out of the Lakers when he kept posting up on their smaller wings, and basically fouled out Mosgov in 3 quarters. I wonder if Thibs will try to do something like Cole Aldrich/KAT line-ups with some combination of wiggins/lavine/bjen at the wing since there would be enough shooting. And it's not like Wiggins doesn't try to pass like prime Nick Young. He was trying really hard to pass out of double-teams in the post but got turnovers instead, which is what he needs to work on next.
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Lockback posted:His stroke was always pretty good with a very high release, and he has the right skillset to create space as well as elevate on his shot. He certainly won't be the, or even one of the, leaders in 3pt % by the end of the season but a lot of people were pretty sure his outside shot was going to catch up to him, and this hot start is a pretty good sign. I dunno, he was regarded as an iffy shooter coming out of high school, was a good but not great shooter in college, and then was really bad his first two years in the NBA. Obviously it is a skill you can improve, i just want to see him do it for awhile before I go crazy about him and people who were critical of his game
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Lockback posted:I thought they didn't play him in the post at all at KU, which was probably a mistake as he was pretty good at that at the NBA level right away. His handle was also not that bad coming into the NBA, enough that I think letting him try to penetrate on a dribble drive would be a bad idea. Self doesn't know how to coach wings
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Tae posted:Someone brought up that Paul/Griffin/Jordan is the longest tenured starting core in the league. It's been what, 5 years? Am I missing some other starting group? Gasol zbo conley?
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kiimo posted:http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-53-best-franchise-players-in-the-nba-2016-17-edition/ Uhhhh this thing lists Denzel Valentine as the #41 "franchise player" in the NBA while saying his best case scenario is Kirk Hinrich How could you format your article so that's the first data point people see
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Metapod posted:Self doesn't know how to coach wings False.
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xbilkis posted:Uhhhh this thing lists Denzel Valentine as the #41 "franchise player" in the NBA while saying his best case scenario is Kirk Hinrich I forgot the bulls drafted denzel
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Tae posted:Someone brought up that Paul/Griffin/Jordan is the longest tenured starting core in the league. It's been what, 5 years? Am I missing some other starting group?
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