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Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


I dunno, russian air force uses 23mm cannons in their fighters. You'd just need a scenario where that ammo type would be optimal.

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Beepity Boop
Nov 21, 2012

yay

The Lone Badger posted:

I don't think anyone's manufacturing a weapon in 23mm RHNB, even if it would be pretty cool.

It would actually be very very warm :downsrim:

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan

Tunicate posted:

Probably Meth.

Nah it's schizophrenia. I mean there was probably also some drug use involved but I don't think that's the primary issue.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Mustached Demon posted:

Those weren't meth sores on his face. Though he did die in Michigan so who knows.
Not a health physics expert but I doubt the face sores are nuclear related. I always thought the sort of dose that can cause a physical skin response is going to be the size that liquefies your organs in a case of acute radiation poisoning.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

zedprime posted:

Not a health physics expert but I doubt the face sores are nuclear related. I always thought the sort of dose that can cause a physical skin response is going to be the size that liquefies your organs in a case of acute radiation poisoning.

This pertains only to his mugshot after being arrested for jacking smoke detectors but police suspected the sores were due to radiation.

It's more fun believing it's true. Also his mom's house was a superfund site.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Cop Porn Popper posted:

I dunno, russian air force uses 23mm cannons in their fighters. You'd just need a scenario where that ammo type would be optimal.

Red-hot cannon balls were a thing during the age of sail. (If you can believe C.S.Forester.)

darthbob88
Oct 13, 2011

YOSPOS

Zopotantor posted:

Red-hot cannon balls were a thing during the age of sail. (If you can believe C.S.Forester.)

Dunno about red-hot, but heated shot actually was used, going back to the 1500s. Apparently in the 1860s they reached the apex with molten iron-filled shells:black101:.

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

Platystemon posted:

It would be like Red Hot Nickel Ball: The Earth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnzlJtKy-2s

I prefer RHMB.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plqdB8Xv8AM

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

A White Guy posted:

Ah, the '90s, where Virtual Reality, Cold Fusion, Flying cars were just around the corner, for real this time guys. :allears:


Somebody heard the words 'China Syndrome' and instead said "THATS IT!". Good luck exploiting anything that followed in the wake of that madness:
.

I'm having a hard time imaging any scenario where you'd want to penetrate 18 miles into the crust. Additionally, how the gently caress you would exploit your newly incredibly radioactive hole to hell is beyond my powers of imagination.

probably pretty useful for geothermal energy purposes

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


atomicthumbs posted:

probably pretty useful for geothermal energy purposes

If it made a traditional hole, sure, but it doesn't. It digs through the earth by melting it, so what you get is a slag pit of extreme depth. The needle shape (chosen to minimize drag) makes it even less likely you'd get a usable hole. I mean, nobody's ever done something like this so we don't have math to describe it, but as the molten rock above it cools I doubt you'd get any kind of stable excavation out of it.

Even if you could use the hole for a geothermal heat exchange there'd be the residual radiation from the reactor to worry about, and depending on how the reactor is built that could be anything from barely above background to "oh my god, this rock is made of corium".

Syd Midnight
Sep 23, 2005

Kwyndig posted:

If it made a traditional hole, sure, but it doesn't. It digs through the earth by melting it, so what you get is a slag pit of extreme depth. The needle shape (chosen to minimize drag) makes it even less likely you'd get a usable hole. I mean, nobody's ever done something like this so we don't have math to describe it, but as the molten rock above it cools I doubt you'd get any kind of stable excavation out of it.

This pretty much describes Deep Borehole Disposal as I understand it. A borehole is dug in a geologically favorable area a few km 'til the rock starts getting hot and plasticky, spent fuel rods dropped down into it, then its capped off. Heat from the rods supposedly helps melt the rock as the corium settles and it's all done in a location where, on a geological scale, tectonic activity will carry it down into the mantle. IIRC the UK looked into it and it's totally feasible but nobody wants to pay for the massive initial costs. Also whatever you send down there is gone forever, and spent nuclear fuel might be useful again someday.

But the whole point is that it is a 1-way trip, the hole seals itself off. It exists just long enough to to dump poo poo down there, then immediately filled with steel and concrete so poo poo can't come back up. And the hole can only be a few hundred millimeters in diameter, so there's probably no practical reason to drill that deep unless you have something less than 300mm wide that really, really needs to be sent straight back to Hell forever.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

Syd Midnight posted:

IIRC the UK looked into it and it's totally feasible but nobody wants to pay for the massive initial costs.

The US wanted to test it in North Dakota, but I think protests have stopped that for now; the wiki article suggests the holes can be 50cm wide now.

http://www.inforum.com/news/3935017-officials-raise-deep-concern-proposed-drilling-project-near-rugby-could-lead-nuclear

Watermelon Daiquiri
Jul 10, 2010
I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.
I wonder if people will get all nimby if they dropped toxic waste down a giant hole like that. Lets return it to mother gaia's loving embrace!

Terrible Robot
Jul 2, 2010

FRIED CHICKEN
Slippery Tilde

Syd Midnight posted:

This pretty much describes Deep Borehole Disposal as I understand it. A borehole is dug in a geologically favorable area a few km 'til the rock starts getting hot and plasticky, spent fuel rods dropped down into it, then its capped off. Heat from the rods supposedly helps melt the rock as the corium settles and it's all done in a location where, on a geological scale, tectonic activity will carry it down into the mantle. IIRC the UK looked into it and it's totally feasible but nobody wants to pay for the massive initial costs. Also whatever you send down there is gone forever, and spent nuclear fuel might be useful again someday.

But the whole point is that it is a 1-way trip, the hole seals itself off. It exists just long enough to to dump poo poo down there, then immediately filled with steel and concrete so poo poo can't come back up. And the hole can only be a few hundred millimeters in diameter, so there's probably no practical reason to drill that deep unless you have something less than 300mm wide that really, really needs to be sent straight back to Hell forever.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Watermelon Daiquiri posted:

I wonder if people will get all nimby if they dropped toxic waste down a giant hole like that. Lets return it to mother gaia's loving embrace!

Short answer is yes. People have a (largely irrational) fear of radioactive and toxic waste. Most radioactive waste is harmless unless you ate it, and the stuff that is dangerous (High Level Waste) is handled with ridiculous levels of care, most of it not leaving the site where it was generated for decades.

As far as non-radioactive toxic waste, it really depends on what it is. Fibrous asbestos would be handled completely differently than methyl-mercury, for example.

Nobody wants to live next to a disposal facility if they can help it though, no matter how safe it is.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
I wonder if as telecommuting increases there will be room for a waste disposal company or government effort to settle and incorporate an area of nerds and nihilists amenable to hazardous waste disposal in exchange for cash/tax breaks/etc.

Watermelon Daiquiri
Jul 10, 2010
I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.

Kwyndig posted:

Short answer is yes. People have a (largely irrational) fear of radioactive and toxic waste. Most radioactive waste is harmless unless you ate it, and the stuff that is dangerous (High Level Waste) is handled with ridiculous levels of care, most of it not leaving the site where it was generated for decades.

As far as non-radioactive toxic waste, it really depends on what it is. Fibrous asbestos would be handled completely differently than methyl-mercury, for example.

Nobody wants to live next to a disposal facility if they can help it though, no matter how safe it is.

Well, they should just say they are carrying kitten farts and puppy drool

venus de lmao
Apr 30, 2007

Call me "pixeltits"

Watermelon Daiquiri posted:

Well, they should just say they are carrying kitten farts and puppy drool

Kitten farts are the loving worst.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Bertrand Hustle posted:

Kitten farts are the loving worst.

I know, those are terrible on the olfactory scale. Ultimately harmless though except for the possibility of toxoplasmosis, which is generally agreed to be not hazardous except to the unborn or those with compromised immune systems.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

Watermelon Daiquiri posted:

I wonder if people will get all nimby if they dropped toxic waste down a giant hole like that. Lets return it to mother gaia's loving embrace!

Let me quote myself from the post immediately above yours.

ulmont posted:

The US wanted to test it in North Dakota, but I think protests have stopped that for now; the wiki article suggests the holes can be 50cm wide now.

http://www.inforum.com/news/3935017-officials-raise-deep-concern-proposed-drilling-project-near-rugby-could-lead-nuclear

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

50cm... that's almost wide enough for inconvenient bodies.

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan
You planning on killing Chris Christie there, bub?

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen

GENDERED SLUR posted:

You planning on killing Chris Christie there, bub?

Why even bother when angina will do the job for you?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Posting to reveal the phantom post.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Bertrand Hustle posted:

Kitten farts are the loving worst.

http://i.imgur.com/rvs57HC.gifv

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

The Lone Badger posted:

50cm... that's almost wide enough for inconvenient bodies.

You're not trying hard enough then. 300mm is plenty.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

Syd Midnight posted:

This pretty much describes Deep Borehole Disposal as I understand it. A borehole is dug in a geologically favorable area a few km 'til the rock starts getting hot and plasticky, spent fuel rods dropped down into it, then its capped off. Heat from the rods supposedly helps melt the rock as the corium settles and it's all done in a location where, on a geological scale, tectonic activity will carry it down into the mantle. IIRC the UK looked into it and it's totally feasible but nobody wants to pay for the massive initial costs. Also whatever you send down there is gone forever, and spent nuclear fuel might be useful again someday.

But the whole point is that it is a 1-way trip, the hole seals itself off. It exists just long enough to to dump poo poo down there, then immediately filled with steel and concrete so poo poo can't come back up. And the hole can only be a few hundred millimeters in diameter, so there's probably no practical reason to drill that deep unless you have something less than 300mm wide that really, really needs to be sent straight back to Hell forever.

What's the diameter of a politician?

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Keiya posted:

What's the diameter of a politician?

Whole or mulched?

Because here's a handy gif I just saw in another thread...

http://i.imgur.com/idzMn3K.mp4

Serephina
Nov 8, 2005

恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー
"Injuries incompatible with life"

Quidam Viator
Jan 24, 2001

ask me about how voting Donald Trump was worth 400k and counting dead.

atomicthumbs posted:

beryllium makes the second best thermally conductive insulator (it has the second-highest thermal conductivity of any non-metal, behind diamond) and destroys your lungs and gives you cancer if you inhale it

selenium makes kinda lovely rectifiers and solar panels that stink to high heaven when they break

Abyssal Squid
Jul 24, 2003

I was talking about SpaceX's on-the-pad explosion and how they figure it was due to oxygen solidification, so I went and looked up the various phases of solid oxygen and, welp, when you compress it hard enough it turns red:



Because the O2 turns into O8:



Naturally, "Liquid oxygen is already used as an oxidant in rockets, and it has been speculated that red oxygen could make an even better oxidant, because of its higher energy density."

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER

Abyssal Squid posted:

I was talking about SpaceX's on-the-pad explosion and how they figure it was due to oxygen solidification, so I went and looked up the various phases of solid oxygen and, welp, when you compress it hard enough it turns red:



Because the O2 turns into O8:



Naturally, "Liquid oxygen is already used as an oxidant in rockets, and it has been speculated that red oxygen could make an even better oxidant, because of its higher energy density."

How the gently caress can oxygen have 3 bonds?

High energy chemistry makes me confused.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Anything's possible if you can imagine it!

Dumping whole heaps of energy into the system doesn't hurt either. Xenon chemistry comes to mind, too.

GenericOverusedName
Nov 24, 2009

KUVA TEAM EPIC

VanSandman posted:

How the gently caress can oxygen have 3 bonds?

High energy chemistry makes me confused.

If you try hard enough you can make things have more bonds than they're comfortable with!

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

GenericOverusedName posted:

If you try hard enough you can make things have more bonds than they're comfortable with!
nitro_chemistry.txt

Loomer
Dec 19, 2007

A Very Special Hell
That's the basis of open marriages!

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
If it was described by normal orbitals and bond theory it wouldn't be very energetic, now would it?

ol qwerty bastard
Dec 13, 2005

If you want something done, do it yourself!

Abyssal Squid posted:

I was talking about SpaceX's on-the-pad explosion and how they figure it was due to oxygen solidification, so I went and looked up the various phases of solid oxygen and, welp, when you compress it hard enough it turns red:



Because the O2 turns into O8:



Naturally, "Liquid oxygen is already used as an oxidant in rockets, and it has been speculated that red oxygen could make an even better oxidant, because of its higher energy density."

So what sort of performance do you suppose you could get from a rocket with this as the oxidizer and solid metallic hydrogen as the fuel?

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


ol qwerty bastard posted:

So what sort of performance do you suppose you could get from a rocket with this as the oxidizer and solid metallic hydrogen as the fuel?

That depends on if you want the rocket to still exist more than 5 seconds after takeoff.

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Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

ol qwerty bastard posted:

So what sort of performance do you suppose you could get from a rocket with this as the oxidizer and solid metallic hydrogen as the fuel?

Only thing I can say here: drat glad I am not that grad student.

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