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the spyder
Feb 18, 2011
Oh hello there.

Ok. It's time to stop drinking. I woke up to this after a rather long weekend. Also, anyone need some JDM parts? drat it.

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Blinkz
Oct 8, 2008
Spyder, just want to say that I wish I had a fraction the rotary knowledge that you have. I always enjoy reading your thread. Keep up the awesome work!

Jomo
Jul 11, 2009
Don't drink and order parts from Japan is the lesson. Or do, because this is currently my favorite thread on SA and I want to see what you've got planned next.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Up Garage haunts my dreams and waking hours.

Once, I was walking through the hallways of my palatial Victorian mansion when I heard a creaking. I turned, and stared directly into the eyes of a Laile spare tire well bracing kit.

Jliznel
May 25, 2014
yea this is def by far my favorite thread on here. Spyder your the man

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011
So at some point I will do a big update post. I'm feeling better and lots of projects are finally getting sorted. And there's a waiting list half a page long of work I've got booked for the winter. Until then, please laugh at my stupidity for purchasing $2k in JDM parts for no good reason.

Commodore_64
Feb 16, 2011

love thy likpa




All the best reasons.

Pomp and Circumcized
Dec 23, 2006

If there's one thing I love more than GruntKilla420, it's the Queen! Also bacon.
That looks like a pretty good haul for $2k. One JDM suspension strut for my car is $12k.

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011
Well, FML. I've sorted out most my problems, except one big one. Sorry for the E/N here, but god drat it can life really kick you in the rear end when you're feeling down. I've got a ton of projects going on, but I'm not really keeping track of them. Maybe that will change here soon. Anyone want to help me clean gutters tomorrow? Haha.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Just binged this thread in the last couple days. :stare: :monocle: :eyepoop:

I can hardly turn a slotted-head screw without bunging up the slots. Replacing a battery is about as much as I dare do myself on a car.

I am constantly amazed at the mechanical wizardry of Spyder and others like him. I wish I had the creativity and adroitness to do any of the stuff you do so routinely. You get more done while waiting for paint to dry than I can get done in a week.

A man's serum testosterone level is directly proportional to the number of power tools he owns. That would explain your health issues, Spyder, as it must be crystallizing out of your blood at this point. You win.

:worship::rice:

I suspect your next project will be to build your own Saturn V and spend an afternoon on the Moon just for the hell of it. You've got a start for a gantry with the well tower.:jeb: :v:

Anyway, thank you so much for this thread, it's one of the most jaw-droppingly entertaining I've ever seen. I pray your setbacks are temporary and you will be able to regale us with raw, XXX-rated workshop porn for many years.

Deteriorata fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Nov 1, 2016

dreesemonkey
May 14, 2008
Pillbug

the spyder posted:

Well, FML. I've sorted out most my problems, except one big one. Sorry for the E/N here, but god drat it can life really kick you in the rear end when you're feeling down. I've got a ton of projects going on, but I'm not really keeping track of them. Maybe that will change here soon. Anyone want to help me clean gutters tomorrow? Haha.

How steep is the pitch of your roof? I clean mine by getting on the roof and using a leaf blower. Works great.

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011
Let's do a shop update!

I've been busy with my real job/family+personal stuff, so I've been putting off updating this thread. Lot's of stuff has been going on, both good and bad- but that's not the point of this post. It hasn't stopped me from working in the shop or finishing car projects :D.

First off, I wanted to finish our loft. It needed blocking installed, along with the decking trimmed and screwed down.



Always nice to have a safety-conscious helper :D.


With most of the blocking done, I hung the remaining LED lights. It's loving bright in here now.


I also replaced our compact florescence with LED in the string lights up in the loft. They are temporary, but Home Depot had these 100w Crees on clearance at a price I couldn't turn down.



Next up, my brother and I started looking at 4 post lifts for the 2nd bay. I've always wanted to get my car and his Corvair inside for the winter. Since the lift would block easy access to the wall, I decided to insulate and sheath the wall. Cue a week of cleaning and organizing after work to get to the wall... drat it.



And since I was looking for a good excuse to spend more money, I finally replaced my old tool boxes with two HF 44's that were on sale for $349.



I then spent the next few evenings insulating and sheathing the remainder of the wall that the lift would block.



Now what's not pictured are the three solid days a bunch of friends spent helping me clean and organize both the barn and the shop. We moved and completely reorganized the racks of miata and FD parts. This free'd up enough space to absorb the new lift.

The biggest change is my work bench is gone. I replaced 4 tool boxes and one HF cart with the two 44" HF boxes. This was way more work then I realized and led me to discover I have three partially complete sets of tools from different brands. These have now been pain-stakenly paired down to just two and the remainder stashed in the barn for our dad to use when he visits to work on the scout project.




With the work bench gone, I needed a place for chemicals, paint, ect. I had these old metal shelving units a friends business was recycling buried in the barn. They should work for now.


My favorite piece however is this metal cubby hole organizer. More on it further down.


Here's an overall picture you can compare to previous ones in this thread.


With most of the cleanup out of the way, it was time for a lift :D. I did some research and decided on a Direct Lift Pro Park 8 Standard. After postponing ordering it and talking to the local dealer, we spent the extra $200 on the Pro Park 8 Long/Tall. It *just* fit into the 12x17 bay. The benefit being it was tall enough work under and long enough one of the larger vehicles could easily fit on it.


Again, cue the army of friends to assist with final cleanup and unloading/assembly. It went together pretty smoothly, minus a loose hydraulic fitting that dumped a few cups of oil. It will need to be re-adjusted in a few weeks for cable stretch.





The best part... So nice. I can't even explain how happy it makes me to park both of these inside. Maybe my brother will get some work done on the Corvair now *poke*.




Now I had to make a tough decision as part of acquiring this lift. Due to the size of our new brake (and possibly shear...) I had to downsize at least one piece of equipment and my 1962 DoAll Bandsaw lost the rock-paper-scissors. I'll be honest- I've had buyers remorse since purchasing it. I just never got it running (plus the blade welder was 440v...). And well, it's loving huge. I have a 20" Rockwell Wood/Metal bandsaw with 120v blade welder that I acquired with the lathe, so I won't be loosing any (real) capabilities. I will miss owning a piece of Boeing history and that 36" throat... because god drat I wanted to cut something that required that. Haha. Anyways, a nice local machinist bought it and is going to R+R it for his home shop.



You can hardly tell it's gone! I added another shelving unit to pickup all our loose machine-tool related tooling/parts/supplies. I might have a functional machine shop soon. :D


And to end on a OCD note:

I ordered custom fit bins for my awesome organizer. I tossed out a literal mountain of cardboard boxes most of these fittings, gaskets, hose clamps, etc lived in. It also allowed me to clean out the remaining drawers in the old tool boxes and I can list them on CL.

Next update: Car projects.

the spyder fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Nov 14, 2016

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
The throat on that bandsaw :circlefap:

glyph
Apr 6, 2006



Agreed on the bandsaw- we have a 16" Doall at work-, holy hell. Can you use the welder that close to the wall?





Bandsaw blade welders are AWESOME, they let you rough out poo poo like this (1/2" stainless that would have been an absolute bitch to rough otherwise):


glyph fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Nov 14, 2016

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011
Sadly the bandsaw is no more :(. See updated post.

DefaultPeanut
Nov 4, 2006
What's not to like?
You updates always fill me with excitement: Will it be a sweet update about awesome cars, shop tools, or the shop itself?! Also, I am looking at a 93 touring and would like some advice. Do you have a way to contact you outside this thread?

glyph
Apr 6, 2006



the spyder posted:

Sadly the bandsaw is no more :(. See updated post.

Wait, you mean READ the text? Pfft.

bolind
Jun 19, 2005



Pillbug
Wait, a bandsaw like that comes with ITS OWN loving WELDER and you're not even expected to but actively ENCOURAGED TO CUT AND WELD THE SAW BLADE TO DO "CAPTIVE" CUTS?!

gently caress. That's metal.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Your dad has a Scout?

mekilljoydammit
Jan 28, 2016

Me have motors that scream to 10,000rpm. Me have more cars than Pick and Pull
Always glad to see updates on this; really am jealous of your shop.

dreesemonkey
May 14, 2008
Pillbug
Man that shop is pretty much perfect. Really big work areas and still lot's of room for storage. Hot drat, I'd like to build a shop in ~10 years or so, I think yours would be a good one to mimic.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




dreesemonkey posted:

Man that shop is pretty much perfect. Really big work areas and still lot's of room for storage. Hot drat, I'd like to build a shop in ~10 years or so, I think yours would be a good one to mimic.

Amen. How big is your shop spyder? I don't remember the dimensions.

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011
Thanks everyone. Couldn't have done it without my brothers help or all the friends that kicked in their free time on the weekend. It's a 30x48x14 with 2 10x12 doors.

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011

Seat Safety Switch posted:

Your dad has a Scout?

61- It's more like 1.5 Scouts, since he bought a complete one and then a complete rebuilt rolling frame/engine/trans/axels/brakes/ect. The plan is to take the body from the complete scout and put it on the rebuilt chassis. I've post a few pictures of the chassis in our barn. I'll get more pictures as we do the body work.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




the spyder posted:

It's a 30x48x14 with 2 10x12 doors.

:swoon: Some day soon, I hope.

dreesemonkey
May 14, 2008
Pillbug

the spyder posted:

Thanks everyone. Couldn't have done it without my brothers help or all the friends that kicked in their free time on the weekend. It's a 30x48x14 with 2 10x12 doors.

Thanks, I read back through the thread and didn't see any actual dimensions.

Do you want to share approximately what you have into the "shell"? I think I saw you said you were creeping up on 30k pretty early in the build, but you were also doing a lot of the work. While I'm fairly handy, I think if I got to the point of being ready to build, I'd just hire most of it out.

30x48 looks like an awesome size, I think I would want the radiant floor as well. I'm probably looking at $50k to build that around here, I'd guess.

Commodore_64
Feb 16, 2011

love thy likpa




I really want the radiant floor, too. But I went and did something dumb and bought a house.

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011
Chapter 4. Being an enabler.

Now like most good friends, I like to fill the minds of those around me with bad ideas. One such drunken conversation this summer lead to the events of this weekend. You see, my friend Ben (Blue FC/Black B2200) recently was reunited with what a "turbo" is in the form of his latest purchase, a 2004 MazdaSpeed Miata. I simply could not have a Miata making more power then his FC, so a plan was hatched. I slowly chipped away at him, hinting that the real answer is more power in the FC. Something he could really thrash on and not worry about, unlike his MSM. This seed soon became firmly planted in his daily thoughts and it almost backfired on me. He started bugging me about selling him the Black 87 TII project i had. Just strip out the drive train and sell the shell he said. I wanted nothing of this, though I do badly want the car gone. I knew the car had a rough life and a B+ rebuilt at best. I simply did not trust it's components holding up to the abuse he wanted to subject them to.

So, plan B. This 1990 GXL popped up on a local buy/sell group (and shortly after on Craigslist). I knew the car, the owner, and some of the story behind it. It looked perfect for what I had planned. The car had a S5 (89-91) JDM turbo drivetrain swapped in with some fancy go-fast bits. It never was tuned (or broken in) since my other buddy who owns the engine shop rebuilt it. The seller had a pile of receipts for the rebuild, the car, and shops that had worked on it. I figured that by pulling out the drive train, selling the older ECU, new OEM engine harness, and other random bits we did not want/need- it would cover 2/3rds of the cost.

What I haven't mentioned is the seller has been after me me for years to work on this car. I simply had to turn him down due to timing. It's kind of a bitter sweet deal, buying a car from someone who tried to get you to fix it. But alas, his situation changed and he was no longer able to keep it. Plus holy poo poo, I've never met someone who got away with having 6+ cars at his apartment complex. Why not keep the car and sell Ben's other one? Well, to start with his FC is a base model non-sunroof. Which makes fitting the tall 6'4" bastard in with a cage and helmet a hell of a lot easier. And B, the new car is hacked. So hacked I don't want to put time into it to make it a runner, nor do I have the time. The time/effort/ect is better spent on the project itself.

Long story short, despite the hackery (and I mean hackery, holy poo poo) we bought the car. Ben helped me pick it up today, despite the weather. Oregon's metro area has experienced a "snow apocalypse" over a whopping 2" of snow. We learned from the PO that the engine was rebuilt in 2011 and has 500 miles on it since. It was last running this summer, but it sputtered and died at idle in his driveway. He never got it running again, but was sure it was something simple. Ha. I should have ran.

The ad.



The guy had some sweet cars.



After a slooooow trip home on still icy roads, we cleared the shop bay and pulled it in for a quick inspection.




Once it was inside, we started to discover how bad this car really was. What started as a simple inspection turned into a teardown. It was like peeling an onion. The car overall is bone stock. Stock NA diff, axels, suspension, wheels, interior (except knockoff recaro seats...).

The first surprise was a purple oil pan- a leaky one at that for only having 500 miles on it.


Now the seller apparently mentioned this to Ben, but I was to busy talking up the neighbor about his TR6 restoration project. I was just in aw when I found this flashlight plugging the heater core return line... What the ever living gently caress was he thinking?



Under the car were a few more surprises. Like this custom mid pipe with finger tight bolts! Oh and pointless hangers on the eBay MANZA exhaust.


And the fuel filter just chilling, not mounted to the frame rail.

Speaking of frame rail, we found all the brake fluid... or at least where it was last seen. The entire frame rail is rusting and missing paint.


My favorite had to be this though. A "vacuum" catch-can, directly tapped into the brake booster hardline.


It kept getting better and better. Custom block off plates?


Coolant level sensor randomly tapped into the upper radiator hose?


OHGODTHEWIRING.


Now, when I looked at the car the guy swore it had coolant in it (it was ~25F out when I looked at it). Indeed there was green under the radiator cap. Turns out he must have just topped it off with antifreeze because RUST AHOY.



Straight. loving. Water. Drained from the block.


What's not shown could fill an entire second post. Random bits of steel exhaust pipe used for intercooler piping, a BOV connected to the wastegate hard lines (with boost controller in circuit!), random metal gunk on the oil drain plug. We decided at this point to just bite the bullet and tear the motor down. It's only got 500 miles on it, but who the gently caress knows what this ghetto fuckery has done in that time period.





So, why do this to ourselves? Even with the random problems and hacked parts, we still came out ahead. Here's what the car came with:
1) S5 JDM Turbo II Motor, rebuilt with OEM Mazda parts from Pineapple Racing
2) S5 TII Transmission and new Exedy OEM Clutch
3) APEXI PowerFC, datalogit, commander, Banzi adaptor harness, GM 3bar MAP, FD AIT sensor.
4) S5 TII NOS OEM Wiring harness (NLA)
5) S5 TII Turbo in excellent shape
6) Greddy (maybe) FMIC and half a piping kit
7) Nissan something aluminum radiator
8) Turbosmart boost controller
9) Corksport oil cooler lines + good oil cooler
10) Turbonetics BOV
11) 3" Exhaust (Corksport downpipe, MANZA catback)
12) Recaro drivers seat, NRG hub and 320mm wheel

By the time we sell the unneeded bits and part out the shell, we might break even. The entire point of this is to take the existing drive train from his FC, swap it into the black b2200 and then put the turbo drivetrain in the FC, in the process turning it into a track car. This should only take 6 months, 2 years tops. Wish us luck.

Woolwich Bagnet
Apr 27, 2003



the spyder posted:


Now the seller apparently mentioned this to Ben, but I was to busy talking up the neighbor about his TR6 restoration project. I was just in aw when I found this flashlight plugging the heater core return line... What the ever living gently caress was he thinking?




Finally a convenient way to hold your flashlight when you're working in the dark! That is truly mind blowing.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




the spyder posted:

This should only take 6 months, 2 years tops. Wish us luck.

The way you seem to get poo poo done, it'll be good to go in no time. But holy hell is that some first class fuckery.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
That catch can is blowing my mind. I keep going back to the picture to make sure that yep that's what I just saw.

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


I've seen some hack jobs but drat that's impressive levels of ignorance.

the spyder posted:

By the time we sell the unneeded bits and part out the shell, we might break even. The entire point of this is to take the existing drive train from his FC, swap it into the black b2200 and then put the turbo drivetrain in the FC, in the process turning it into a track car. This should only take 6 months, 2 years tops. Wish us luck.
This is going to be a fun truck

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

I didn't think I'd ever feel good about buying my FC until now. Good luck man.

Nodoze
Aug 17, 2006

If it's only for a night I can live without you
You did the right thing by encouraging him in the beginning. That car, though, thank the rotors you are rescuing it

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
So...so much blowby, you needed direct vacuum? What? What? WHAT?!

Even with my wheezy 1.7 in the bus, it wasn't that bad. I mean, it was bad, but not THAT bad.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
Well on a piston engine pulling vacuum on the crankcase will improve ring sealing and reduce windage losses. But I'm not sure how it works on a rotary.

TheShazbot
Feb 20, 2011

I expect that much PO fuckery on something like my old '79 Mercury Zephyr, but not a "rebuilt recently" car.

Good luck with that.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

jamal posted:

Well on a piston engine pulling vacuum on the crankcase will improve ring sealing and reduce windage losses.

I'm off to the junkyard to scavenge BMW vacuum pumps. Way cheaper than fixing a head gasket.

Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Dec 20, 2016

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
That loving flashlight. Glorious.

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cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

I'm learning so much from this thread. Mostly by bad PO example but still.

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