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Brunom1 posted:That last one looks like someone fused the Hi-Nu with the Extraordinary-Superior Gundam. That's the Zeta Plus C1 Hummingbird, probably one of my favorite suits ever. It's less Hi-Nu with Ex-S and more Zeta Plus (duh) with the Deep Striker. (Which of course was based off the Ex-S but that's neither here nor there)   AradoBalanga posted:I'm more bothered by the random giant twin crotch thrusters. Like, what's the point of them, balance? Those aren't boosters, they're fuel tanks. Basically the thing was meant to escort the Deep Striker and as such, needed to be both incredibly fast to intercept stuff and to have enough fuel to have a large enough deployment radius. Considering that the Deep Striker was loaded down with as much fuel and guns that they could to make it an effective long range, extended deployment behind enemy lines unit, that's a lot of fuel it needs. ACES CURE PLANES fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Nov 15, 2016 |
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Finally got moon dwellers in today. It's just... man. I've been playing SRW for ten years now and I didn't understand a single word of it but loved it anyway. Now I'm playing it (sorta) coherent english. never thought I'd see the day. I'm even more hyped for SRW V now  .
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Hell yeah! I was even looking at Zeta Plus stuff yesterday but I guess I didn't get as far as the Hummingbird! Now jus the 6 armed thing and all the other weird stuff. It turns out there's a lot of cool melee dudes in the UC Side Story stuff because they're videogames and swords are cool.
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:Those aren't boosters, they're fuel tanks. Basically the thing was meant to escort the Deep Striker and as such, needed to be both incredibly fast to intercept stuff and to have enough fuel to have a large enough deployment radius. Considering that the Deep Striker was loaded down with as much fuel and guns that they could to make it an effective long range, extended deployment behind enemy lines unit, that's a lot of fuel it needs. Kind of surprised the Hummingbird isn't also loaded with hilarious amounts of guns in the event where Deep Striker runs out of ammo and can borrow something from the escort so it too has something to attack with.
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Pretty much everything the Deep Striker has is powered by its reactor alone. Its reactor which outputs about 11x more power than the RX-78's and over 2x more power than the Ex-S's. They literally crammed a battleship reactor, main gun, and i-field into the thing, then strapped enough boosters to it to move it at ludicrous speed and then enough fuel to it to keep it working for weeks. It's beautiful. 
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:Pretty much everything the Deep Striker has is powered by its reactor alone. Its reactor which outputs about 11x more power than the RX-78's and over 2x more power than the Ex-S's. They literally crammed a battleship reactor, main gun, and i-field into the thing, then strapped enough boosters to it to move it at ludicrous speed and then enough fuel to it to keep it working for weeks.
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Not quite that far, no. At least not for weaponry. It's got the standard Gundam vulcans, and two smaller beam cannons mounted to it, as well as some INCOMs (basically prototype funnels, guided by wires), and a slightly modified version of the Ex-S's gun to make it fire faster. It's just that the battleship mega particle cannon and i-field are incredibly ludicrous for MS mounting. So what it lacks in number of weapons, it makes up for in having a giant fuckoff sniping cannon with ludicrous firepower and an insane shield. They definitely strapped all the thrusters in the world to it though, so it can haul rear end despite being gigantic. Edit: Transitioning away from robot stat nerdery (though it does still fit the theme of strapping ludicrous equipment to MSes), do we know yet if the Penelope will be in SRWV? I mean, I love the Xi too, but I'd die happy if both units were in the game. 
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6-Arms is also a GGen Original, I believe. It's name is the Titania, and it's basic deal is Paptimus seeing the Qubeley and saying "Yeah, The O definitely needs some of that." Something about him wanting to find a wife too, I think?
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:Edit: Transitioning away from robot stat nerdery (though it does still fit the theme of strapping ludicrous equipment to MSes), do we know yet if the Penelope will be in SRWV? I mean, I love the Xi too, but I'd die happy if both units were in the game.
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HitTheTargets posted:6-Arms is also a GGen Original, I believe. It's name is the Titania, and it's basic deal is Paptimus seeing the Qubeley and saying "Yeah, The O definitely needs some of that." Something about him wanting to find a wife too, I think? Hell yeah! Just found it after going what it was close to in the trailer. So many weird things I didn't know about!
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I hope the Original music in V is good, because the last good original theme is in, like, Z2-1 or something.
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So... how do I get the SR point on Scenario 3 (Space Route) in Moon Dwellers? I am completely stumped on how I am supposed to kill 4 enemies in 2 turns right out of the gate.
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I think that's Ing+someone Twin spirit to go again after getting one squad down. Rai's accelerate also very useful. I think Ing+Rai is the go to pair for that one if its the one I'm thinking of.
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MonsieurChoc posted:I hope the Original music in V is good, because the last good original theme is in, like, Z2-1 or something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGTEcTVOdjs 
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ZuljinRaynor posted:So... how do I get the SR point on Scenario 3 (Space Route) in Moon Dwellers? I am completely stumped on how I am supposed to kill 4 enemies in 2 turns right out of the gate. You want to team up Ing and Rai. Rai can use Accelerate for the first turn. Ing can use his twin spirit for the second turn, which will grant both Accelerate and Assail, enabling your units to attack an enemy normally outside of its range. Then you can finish the enemy off with a counter during enemy phase. I found it worked well for me with the enemies closest on the far right.
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MonsieurChoc posted:I hope the Original music in V is good, because the last good original theme is in, like, Z2-1 or something. A King's Love is for His People and Son of Sun were good, though?
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I think Z3 and especially Z3-2 has a shitload of good original music.
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I have been taking screenshots of early Z3-1 for the hell of it.   
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Man... I've had days like that. Truck on little MotW dude.
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I'm enjoying moon dwellers so far but I think I made a mistake with the earth route. I really hate the "get all the bad guys health below _____ but don't kill them" missions. Also I hope the soul saber gets cooler because it's really boring so far.
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Monaghan posted:I'm enjoying moon dwellers so far but I think I made a mistake with the earth route. I really hate the "get all the bad guys health below _____ but don't kill them" missions. Those exist on the space route too so you wouldn't have a lot more fun there.
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So I'm currently having problems with Fantasy Maiden Wars P where when I try to access the Spirits from my character, the game just freezes. Does anyone know what I can do? I'm currently using the english patch.
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Monaghan posted:Also I hope the soul saber gets cooler because it's really boring so far. Ryusei's summary of it as an orthodox super robot nails it. It's CompatiKaiser with less Obari once it upgrades. GodofDiscord posted:So I'm currently having problems with Fantasy Maiden Wars P where when I try to access the Spirits from my character, the game just freezes. Does anyone know what I can do? I'm currently using the english patch. Use NTLEA or something to run it in Japanese language mode, that fixed it for me.
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Monaghan posted:Also I hope the soul saber gets cooler because it's really boring so far.
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GodofDiscord posted:So I'm currently having problems with Fantasy Maiden Wars P where when I try to access the Spirits from my character, the game just freezes. Does anyone know what I can do? I'm currently using the english patch. Your game can't display the kanji, so the game is freezing up. Run it in JP locale like any other Japanese game. Fun fact: When we tried translating the spirits for FMW3, this caused an even greater issue where all skills that autocast spirits froze the game because it was apparently looking for the japanese string instead of the spirit ID like any sane program would. 
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Any tips for Alpha 3, or should I just do what I want because it isn't really too bad? Other than the 4 member squads being really annoying (I keep having a few of the useless ZZ kids die on me every other mission) I'm making pretty good headway, and I'm at stage 20 of the earth route.
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Logicblade posted:Any tips for Alpha 3, or should I just do what I want because it isn't really too bad? Other than the 4 member squads being really annoying (I keep having a few of the useless ZZ kids die on me every other mission) I'm making pretty good headway, and I'm at stage 20 of the earth route. The absolute best 'bang for your buck' in terms of upgrades is Strike Gundam which carries over to basically every single Gundam SEED unit. Just behind that is the Gaogaigar which also upgrades J-Ark, and the Moebius Zero which gets you both Skygraspers. Most protagonist units will upgrade some secret unit but they're less reliable than those.
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If you're playing real route male, the MP Nu's upgrades also carry over to the Werkbau, which carries over to the Wildfalken, which carries over to the Wildwurger. You get all these units really early, so you can't take a lot of advantage from this but free money is free money.
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Nah, I'm rolling with Kusuha since I was feeling like using a Super. Seems like I'll be fine, since I've been putting a fair chunk of cash into the Strike as well. I don't like Kira, but I like the Strike, drat it. Should I just squad reals together and supers with support bots, or does it really matter all that much? I just try to have it so there's an accel user in as many squads as I can like I did in Z.
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I made Rei the squad leader of some leftover Crossbone units. edit: despite having made this thread I am not the one to ask for SRW tactical advice. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Nov 17, 2016 |
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Logicblade posted:Nah, I'm rolling with Kusuha since I was feeling like using a Super. Seems like I'll be fine, since I've been putting a fair chunk of cash into the Strike as well. I don't like Kira, but I like the Strike, drat it. Should I just squad reals together and supers with support bots, or does it really matter all that much? I just try to have it so there's an accel user in as many squads as I can like I did in Z. Generally you want an accel user in every squad, EN and repair supportbots with EN hogging supers like Getter, Mazinkaiser and GaoGaiGar, and then just the strongest PLA units you can scrounge up. Barrier-users are also fantastic for super squads, Rei being chief among them. You may or may not want to keep Asuka and Shinji together for their combo attack, but you can just as easily shuffle them into the backrow of any unit for AT field goodness. You also want any combination attack partners in the same squad for obvious reasons, though Rei is a potential exception. Protip: Amuro only needs Kayra in the least valuable MS you have, since the Nu's funnels will violate the poo poo out of anything and everything in the game. Also the Dendrobium is a beautiful thing for the entire early-mid game, and I recommend giving it to someone more capable than Kou, like the Purus. GilliamYaeger fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Nov 17, 2016 |
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If at any point the game starts to grind you down with sheer numbers, take a little bit to figure out how to abuse the Ideon, then never worry about large enemy forces ever again.
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All right! I used NTLEA like Steele said, and it's working now! Thanks so much! I can finally play Fantasy Maiden Wars P! Now to play the game where my favorite character isn't even playable. Curse you PCB, for taking away Youmu!
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If it makes you feel better, FMW2 is the only game where Youmu has a full movelist. RIP her MAP.
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Its been many years since I played Alpha 3 but here's some of what I remember: Most of the newtypes learn Awaken and make excellent squad fodder. METEOR Freedom and METEOR Justice are a strong candidate for best non-Original reals in the game. Ideon's IDE power goes up as enemies target it and gets a big bonus when under 10% HP. The IDE barrier will activate and protect it from most grunts once this happens, so you basically want it to be at 10% HP or under pretty much all the time. Give it HP upgrades but no evasion or armor, don't bother upgrading its weapons because the Ideon Sword and Ideon Gun already have 9999 base attack power. It loses IDE power when it destroys anything, so casting mercy is key to abusing its MAPWs. Speaking of Ideon, the unit is deservedly famous for its ability to wipe the whole map at once, but one could argue that Banpreios can do the same thing with less setup work by spamming awaken and resupply on its MAPW. The 3 Evas in Alpha 3 have a combination attack, and Shinji's leader bonus is strengthening all AT Fields in the squad, so you could also make an argument for slapping 2 Cost Downs on 00 and making a single all-Eva squad. The abundance of combination attacks, synergistic leader bonuses and decent spirit pools in most squad fodder units means that Alpha 3 is a game where you generally want units from the same series to be in the same squad. Making sure everyone has a Repair/Resupply squaddie is nice but this is one of those games where you can clear stages in 2-3 turns by the 2nd half of the game so it is not as much of a big deal as it is in the grindier ones.
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Samurai Sanders posted:I think Z3 and especially Z3-2 has a shitload of good original music. I mostly remember them being bland and forgettable, and Crowe's new theme being terrible, but admittedly I haven't finished Z3 yet.
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Per squad, I usually have something to kill bosses, another to bash mooks (sometimes they're the same unit) and then the rest is mostly there to cast spirits. Once you get a certain unit you basically abuse its P Map a lot which means it probably doesn't matter if you don't super optimize your squads.
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loving hell, I keep losing a ton of units on every chapter in SRWF. I'm wondering if I should just start over because I'm worried I'll end up not having nearly enough cash to keep moving forward. Is it normal for bosses in this game to take like 250 damage from basically everything I throw at them? The mechanics in this game feel completely different from modern SRWs.
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Thanks for the tip to get the SR point on Scenario 3 of the MD space route. I forgot all about the twin commands.
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