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ColdBlooded
Jul 15, 2001

Ask me how to run a good team into the ground.
Rocky Anderson 2020

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Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme
tulsi's dad was a famously anti-lgbt legislator in hawaii, and tulsi herself ran for office (for school board) on the platform of stopping the school from creating anti-lgbt bullying policies. then she went to iraq and when she came back, surprise, now she's a progressive hero!

NumberLast
Jun 7, 2014
CC is a weirdo that throws shade on all leftists while talking up progressive websites that endorse like 5 people a cycle.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

NumberLast posted:

If Trump is out by 2020, what's the possibility Pence faces a primary challenge? What's the likelihood he wins?

Pence was the GoPs guy, why would they primary him?

Also it shouldn't matter for dems who they are running against. Have a not poo poo platform without wonky exceptions for social welfare, and be charismatic.

Don't pit race against class, as if something like free college or universal healthcare relies on racism or something ridiculous like that.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Concerned Citizen posted:

tulsi is a cultist weirdo who hates islam

Good.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Concerned Citizen posted:

tulsi's dad was a famously anti-lgbt legislator in hawaii, and tulsi herself ran for office (for school board) on the platform of stopping the school from creating anti-lgbt bullying policies. then she went to iraq and when she came back, surprise, now she's a progressive hero!

counterpoint: nothing matters

NumberLast
Jun 7, 2014

Concerned Citizen posted:

tulsi's dad was a famously anti-lgbt legislator in hawaii, and tulsi herself ran for office (for school board) on the platform of stopping the school from creating anti-lgbt bullying policies. then she went to iraq and when she came back, surprise, now she's a progressive hero!

Lol that's not even an attack

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Donald Trump should be a liberating call to all Democrats that your personal poo poo sincerely doesn't matter, platform and messaging are everything.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

NumberLast posted:

CC is a weirdo that throws shade on all leftists while talking up progressive websites that endorse like 5 people a cycle.

tulsi isn't a leftist. she's a hilariously transparent fraud that goes whichever way she thinks the wind is blowing

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

exquisite tea posted:

Donald Trump should be a liberating call to all Democrats that your personal poo poo sincerely doesn't matter, platform and messaging are everything.

I still think that Donald Trump is an exception and has a reality bending field around him tuned to perfection over decades

NumberLast
Jun 7, 2014

Concerned Citizen posted:

tulsi isn't a leftist. she's a hilariously transparent fraud that goes whichever way she thinks the wind is blowing

You go by Tulsi now?

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

NumberLast posted:

You go by Tulsi now?

sick burn

NumberLast
Jun 7, 2014
In all seriousness Tulsi isn't great, but she is a drat sight better than most of Congress.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Gabbard's main flaw is the anti-Islam thing but Pres Trump has made me desperate enough that I'm like "maybe that's actually a strength, it'll win over some mad whiteys and she seems to rein it in when it's not pragmatic"

but I fully admit I'm mostly on team tulsi because I liked her gumption in the primaries

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme
in a sense that she is a better vote for progressives on many issues, sure. but she really should not run for president or ever take any sort of leadership position where all her negatives will be amplified.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

I think going overboard with how much you hate Muslims is basically the only way to be non-Christian in the American government

NumberLast
Jun 7, 2014

Concerned Citizen posted:

in a sense that she is a better vote for progressives on many issues, sure. but she really should not run for president or ever take any sort of leadership position where all her negatives will be amplified.

No, we should elect Hillary Clinton. :v:

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme
if i was gonna back a bernie rep. for president i'd rather have keith ellison than tulsi gabbard, i'll put it that way.

NumberLast
Jun 7, 2014

Concerned Citizen posted:

if i was gonna back a bernie rep. for president i'd rather have keith ellison than tulsi gabbard, i'll put it that way.

I'd back neither tbh

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


If the Democrats run a non-joke candidate in 2020 then it's going to be somebody you're not expecting and/or somebody who just manages to catch lightning in a bottle. 2016 should be a wake-up call to never ever have the party anoint somebody again.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

exquisite tea posted:

If the Democrats run a non-joke candidate in 2020 then it's going to be somebody you're not expecting and/or somebody who just manages to catch lightning in a bottle. 2016 should be a wake-up call to never ever have the party anoint somebody again.

Yeah p much, I'm very open to the GOP's open-auditions model

As long as we can fit everybody on one stage let's fuckin' do it

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme
sorry but the dnc fraud machine is already going full throttle for montana gov. steve bullock


your next president:

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Trump my Bullocks.

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

loquacius posted:

Yeah p much, I'm very open to the GOP's open-auditions model

As long as we can fit everybody on one stage let's fuckin' do it

Chaos president 2020.

feller
Jul 5, 2006


loquacius posted:

I think going overboard with how much you hate Muslims is basically the only way to be non-Christian in the American government

What about the Kenyan Muslim SOCIALIST we've had for the last 8 years? Is he a self-hater?

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme
our first woman president

gov. gina raimondo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7-x6l2KzkE

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


What I'm saying is don't even try to speculate on 2020, focus on Dems not getting completely hosed in 2018 and mounting a real opposition to Trump and then we'll talk. Don't accept Trump as the new normal, don't accept Trumpism as permanent, learn from the GOP for once and obstruct obstruct obstruct.

NumberLast
Jun 7, 2014

Concerned Citizen posted:

our first woman president

gov. gina raimondo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7-x6l2KzkE

:barf:

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


As a Rhode Islander, please do not nominate Gina Raimondo to anything.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme
dark horse candidate chuck schumer, your next president

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxbCbWqVM9k

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
chuck "stealing ad money for myself" schumer

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

logikv9 posted:

chuck "stealing ad money for myself" schumer

yeah look i'll help you all running for senate in other states, but first i gotta deal with the ol' re-elect here. chuck takes nothing for granted, gotta fight for every vote.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



please keep new yorkers out of politics tia

except paul tonko he's pretty cool

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Concerned Citizen posted:

tulsi isn't a leftist. she's a hilariously transparent fraud that goes whichever way she thinks the wind is blowing

So like Clinton without the scandals and perhaps a bit more charisma. Hell, I'll take it.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


The first serious Dem contender in 2020 to say "hang 'em high" is going to win the general election and the party would be fools to take them down for fear of upsetting the elites.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

exquisite tea posted:

The first serious Dem contender in 2020 to say "hang 'em high" is going to win the general election and the party would be fools to take them down for fear of upsetting the elites.

I think people are too quick to suggest the guillotine; we should try bringing back tarring and feathering first

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


tadashi posted:

She's been pretty pro-defense in the House.


She's a National Guard officer so gee you think

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Concerned Citizen posted:

tulsi's dad was a famously anti-lgbt legislator in hawaii, and tulsi herself ran for office (for school board) on the platform of stopping the school from creating anti-lgbt bullying policies. then she went to iraq and when she came back, surprise, now she's a progressive hero!

That's not that weird, deployment changes a lot of people's political views, especially since she probably worked and lived around lesbians. (There's a lot of lesbians in the army)

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

TyrantWD posted:

Trump's mess is not going to undeniably clear to enough people until midway through a second term. You are not going to be able to run on fixing Donald's mess until 2024.

Bullshit. His approval is rock bottom now and he's only going to tunnel lower. He is already turning on every one of his "shake the system" promises. This is even if there isn't an economic crash that gets hung around his neck, which there's a slim chance there won't be.

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Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

yeah its easy to forget after the shock of a big clinton loss that trump is actually starting out as possibly the most disliked president in american history

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