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sit on my Facebook
Jun 20, 2007

ASS GAS OR GRASS
No One Rides for FREE
In the Trumplord Holy Land
How long does it typically take for a president to pick their cabinet members after an election?

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HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
https://twitter.com/NickTimiraos/status/798721568058839040

:stare:

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

sit on my Facebook posted:

How long does it typically take for a president to pick their cabinet members after an election?

I think they usually have them before they are sworn in

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!




Ted Cruz ran on wanting to prosecute Planned Parenthood for murder.
Joy.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Wait what?

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth

Bannon would gladly deport non-citizen, non-white Tech CEOs because Bannon is a neo-nazi.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016


Bannons a nazi wife beater?

Mr. Belding
May 19, 2006
^
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<- IS LAME-O PHOBE ->
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V

Lightning Knight posted:

I wish I remembered this better. This happened right before I became even barely politically aware and well before I had solidified political ideology. I remember it was a huge deal and in particular the tactic of legislators literally fleeing to prevent them having enough to vote. It was very surreal even living only an hour away.

Oh well, Barack Obama had a campaign promise to literally walk the picket line with labor unions and then didn't do a god damned thing except give very tenuous lip service to this strike. One of the many times he failed us (I still like him, but he get away with poo poo).

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

A Tin Of Beans posted:

"america is already great" was the worst possible thing to say to The Rust Belt basically

Agreed, but it was kind of a no-win situation for Hillary, because if she said "America isn't great right now" then it still reflects badly on her because the Dems have already had eight years to Make America Great Again, and blaming the Republicans would be difficult to pull off without pissing off those white working class voters. That's why the Dems started off with a fundamental disadvantage on the economic front - it wasn't enough just to convince voters that they knew how to fix the economy, they had to explain why they hadn't already fixed the economy.

FeedingHam2Cats posted:

We.

Can.

Have.

Both.

There is no conflict of interest.


Do you seriously think policies that help working class white Americans would somehow hurt minority Americans?

It's the opposite: policies that help minorities are perceived as hostile by working class white Americans. And if the Dems abandon minority-specific problems to focus only on things that help all poor people regardless of race, then minorities will lose trust in the Dems and we'll be right back in this situation again.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
So how long until the establishment GOP demands that Bannon get shitcanned? Probably as a prerequisite for any type of cooperation.

Unzip and Attack
Mar 3, 2008

USPOL May

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

So how long until the establishment GOP demands that Bannon get shitcanned? Probably as a prerequisite for any type of cooperation.

LOL if you think

a. they have the spines to do this
b. Trump gives a gently caress

CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

So how long until the establishment GOP demands that Bannon get shitcanned? Probably as a prerequisite for any type of cooperation.

Probably never. The establishment is beaten and loving tired. I doubt they have any fight left in them for trump

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Yeah, people aren't kidding when they say Bannon is a white nationalist.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

So how long until the establishment GOP demands that Bannon get shitcanned? Probably as a prerequisite for any type of cooperation.

I'm thinking it'll happen soon. It's one thing to be virulently racist, to be virulently racist against millionaire CEOs in ways that prevent massive corporations from making lots of money is a step too far, even for the GOP.

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

I want to see what happens the first time these people have to raise the debt ceiling.

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider

Admiral Ray posted:

Yeah, people aren't kidding when they say Bannon is a white nationalist.

Unfortunately searching for info turns up tons of articles that are all 5,000 word explanations that generally just say "BRIETBART!" and "His ex-wife said during divorce proceedings..." and that's not going to convince anyone that isn't already convinced, not that I entirely blame them. The divorce comments usually get top billing and using that is a reliable source is pretty weak.

Stuff like this, though, might actually get a few people to wake up. Probably not, but a guy can dream.

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax

galenanorth posted:

I want to see what happens the first time these people have to raise the debt ceiling.

They probably raise it because they don't actually give a gently caress about debt and never have.

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider

galenanorth posted:

I want to see what happens the first time these people have to raise the debt ceiling.

Not sure why you think they'd have to do that, they're proposing major tax cuts and raising spending in our largest expense category. They'll pay for it with the mark-up on that Mexican wall when we send them the bill.

sit on my Facebook
Jun 20, 2007

ASS GAS OR GRASS
No One Rides for FREE
In the Trumplord Holy Land

galenanorth posted:

I want to see what happens the first time these people have to raise the debt ceiling.

I believe they already announced that they were going to ignore the debt ceiling for the first two years so that they could have "room to maneuver"

Mons Hubris
Aug 29, 2004

fanci flup :)


It will be really interesting to see how the corporations that actually run the country respond to all this. As New Balance and North Carolina's HB2 have shown, overt racism and discrimination is generally bad for business and companies aren't going to put up with that poo poo.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

galenanorth posted:

I want to see what happens the first time these people have to raise the debt ceiling.

:smugdon:: "We'll just declare bankruptcy and negotiate a better deal with China! Why hasn't anyone thought of this before? It's gonna be the best deal. You're gonna love our new deal, believe me."

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

galenanorth posted:

I want to see what happens the first time these people have to raise the debt ceiling.

They don't give a gently caress about the debt unless a Democrat is president.

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
Breitbart is going to be the only news ("news") outlet to get press credentials in the Trump White House, so he needs Bannon.


Doesn't the debt ceiling time bomb come up for another vote next month? It's like the congressional version of the hatch from lost.

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Mons Hubris posted:

It will be really interesting to see how the corporations that actually run the country respond to all this. As New Balance and North Carolina's HB2 have shown, overt racism and discrimination is generally bad for business and companies aren't going to put up with that poo poo.

I really hate to break this to you but corporations don't actually run the country. I'd have a lot more confidence in the perpetuity of the nation if they did.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Admiral Ray posted:

They don't give a gently caress about the debt unless a Democrat is president.

It only counts as debt if it isn't military aircraft or warships.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Admiral Ray posted:

They don't give a gently caress about the debt unless a Democrat is president.

Necessary investment you mean?

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Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Mons Hubris posted:

It will be really interesting to see how the corporations that actually run the country respond to all this. As New Balance and North Carolina's HB2 have shown, overt racism and discrimination is generally bad for business and companies aren't going to put up with that poo poo.

Ford, IBM, and other companies were just as cool doing business with Hitler as they were anyone else.

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider

HorseRenoir posted:

:smugdon:: "We'll just declare bankruptcy and negotiate a better deal with China! Why hasn't anyone thought of this before? It's gonna be the best deal. You're gonna love our new deal, believe me."

Well, much like Trump, bankruptcy is a tool...

TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer

Mons Hubris posted:

It will be really interesting to see how the corporations that actually run the country respond to all this. As New Balance and North Carolina's HB2 have shown, overt racism and discrimination is generally bad for business and companies aren't going to put up with that poo poo.

It's one thing moving the NCAA and ACC tournaments out of state, it's another thing when you're talking a national scale. I get your point though, I'd be intrigued to see how they would act, if they actually had the balls to do so.

Agnosticnixie
Jan 6, 2015

Mons Hubris posted:

It will be really interesting to see how the corporations that actually run the country respond to all this. As New Balance and North Carolina's HB2 have shown, overt racism and discrimination is generally bad for business and companies aren't going to put up with that poo poo.

If it's the difference between their bottom lines and minorities getting hosed, minorities are going to eat poo poo with the blessing of the capitalist class.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

HorseRenoir posted:

Day Seven

https://twitter.com/awprokop/status/798708532493381633

sounds like the Trump administration is going to be run just as well as the Trump campaign

:stare:

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Donald Trump is going to be impeached.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

I mean, how?

What?

I, uh... what's going on?

This is all a huge Andy Kaufman prank isn't it

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Fojar38 posted:

Donald Trump is going to be impeached.

Nah. Republicans will wait him out as he loots our nation, gets in two ground wars (Syria and Iran), tells his AG not to worry about civil rights abuses, and reinstate torture. Then he'll sign all their batshit legislation.

On Terra Firma
Feb 12, 2008


This is going to be the weirdest 4 seasons of the apprentice.

Also everyone who is angry and doesn't really like what's happening you should find your local dem party and volunteer. If the Trump administration is going to govern like this and gently caress up the country then we're going to need people to make sure they loving pay for it in the coming years. It's great to just wait until elections to go phone bank or whatever but there is so much poo poo to get in order long before that's even a thing.

http://asdc.democrats.org/state-parties/

If you're still in that angry/upset/election hangover phase and need a pick me up, just go to a loving meeting. There are loads of people like you that want to fix this and are showing up to find out how to do that. If you're in Richmond VA or the surrounding area drop me a PM.

If you think the democrats are a bunch of spineless corporate shills go tell them and then volunteer to help change that. In order to do that you need to go to a loving meeting.

How some of you guys manage to hold up the gun, find the trigger, and jerk yourselves off all at the same time in a circular firing squad is impressive, but if you are that talented you should maybe go show your local party so they can put you to good use. So go to a loving meeting.

On Terra Firma fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Nov 16, 2016

Grognan
Jan 23, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
I guess I can see why pluralism-only advocates are really afraid that they'd be ignored if another cause that wasn't theirs worked enough that a Democratic ticket might win again. They've been seeing the history of the class advocates getting their poo poo sold down the drain and derided as bad things as soon as it was feasible.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Admiral Ray posted:

Nah. Republicans will wait him out as he loots our nation, gets in two ground wars (Syria and Iran), tells his AG not to worry about civil rights abuses, and reinstate torture. Then he'll sign all their batshit legislation.

Yeah I think you must be new if you think Republicans care about governance

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Fojar38 posted:

Donald Trump is going to be impeached.

You can't arrest a husband and wife for the same crime.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

Phone posted:

You can't arrest a husband and wife for the same crime.

nice

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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Cup Runneth Over posted:

Yeah I think you must be new if you think Republicans care about governance

The Republicans still need an executive branch to execute all their lovely laws and at the rate we're going the executive branch literally will not exist by inauguration.

Also a lot of Republicans are hawks and are loving livid about some of Trump's FP picks.

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