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uranium grass
Jan 15, 2005

He's getting less pouty and there are no signs of swelling plus his foot temp is pretty much back to normal. Does anyone else's bird only talk when they're upset with them? Mochi is generally pretty quiet except for kissy noises and conure weks but there's a point after the toilet flush while I'm hiding in the kitchen and he screams himself out that he goes to sad beepbooping then starts trying to talk and you get a distorted gravelly, 'Hey baby? Hey baby? Pretty baby?'. I'm glad it usually signals the end of his yelling sprees at least, when he starts talking instead of screaming I start responding and coming back in.

eta my husband has officially passed into bird crazy territory, yesterday he urged me to smell the bird because 'he smells really good. really just smell him'. one of us

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Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Not until he gets an account


I think "smell the birds" is available

uranium grass
Jan 15, 2005

Potato Salad posted:

Not until he gets an account


I think "smell the birds" is available

already has one!

i poop fire
Feb 21, 2011

Potato Salad posted:

I think "smell the birds" is available


Hmm.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I think I have someone's conure's evil twin. There has been quite a lot of evidence so far, but the most compelling is scuttle rushing over to me squeaking with love on the floor, accepting scritchies, and then instead of stepping up like a good boy, being transported to the cage hanging by his beak off of my finger with a look of "unffff oh yeahhhh" on his face.

Battle Pigeon
Nov 7, 2011

I am dancing potato
give me millet


Hoping that no news about Taco is good news and that she's doing better now!

learnincurve posted:

I think I have someone's conure's evil twin. There has been quite a lot of evidence so far, but the most compelling is scuttle rushing over to me squeaking with love on the floor, accepting scritchies, and then instead of stepping up like a good boy, being transported to the cage hanging by his beak off of my finger with a look of "unffff oh yeahhhh" on his face.

No, that sounds about right for conures (except maybe Amadeus)

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

Battle Pigeon posted:

Hoping that no news about Taco is good news and that she's doing better now!

Same! :ohdear:

uranium grass
Jan 15, 2005

Any ideas on getting the toilet-related screaming to stop? (this is just him being needy, not i-fell-in-once trauma since this has happened the whole time he has been home). he screams when one of us goes to the bathroom. usually when one leaves the room he stops pretty quickly but once the toilet flushes it's like we never did any training at all and he just shrieks endlessly. I just spent no joke twenty minutes hiding in the bathroom and it's starting to interfere with my work to have to wait so long for that one idiot thing so I have to find a way to make it stop. I do not want the thing I have to do be move his cage to our bedroom so he's away from me all day. Birds.

Battle Pigeon
Nov 7, 2011

I am dancing potato
give me millet


Teach him to kiss on command, ask him to kiss before you go into the room, refuse until he kisses, when he does OH MY GOD WOW GOOD BORB and give a treat. Eventually he'll try kissing instead and then you just praise and be all YEAH GOOD BIRB while you're out of the room. Also praise talking etc

Also say something while you're leaving, like "I'm right here" or whatever and eventually he'll twig when you say that sort of thing you're still in existence and will come back in a moment

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh



nielsm
Jun 1, 2009





Putni was playing with Pion on my shoulder/arm again today. Also got some video, but it's vertical (kill me) and I haven't transferred it yet. I'm happy he seems to be more okay with at least my arm lately. Maybe he will learn to sit on a hand one day?


I also tried checking Pion under the wings, but then remembered I don't know what to actually check for. He seemed to take it okay, obviously not happy with being restrained, but no real biting or anything either.

Shirec
Jul 29, 2009

How to cock it up, Fig. I


The struggle of every bird haver trying to take a picture

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

nielsm posted:



Putni was playing with Pion on my shoulder/arm again today. Also got some video, but it's vertical (kill me) and I haven't transferred it yet. I'm happy he seems to be more okay with at least my arm lately. Maybe he will learn to sit on a hand one day?


I also tried checking Pion under the wings, but then remembered I don't know what to actually check for. He seemed to take it okay, obviously not happy with being restrained, but no real biting or anything either.

What you need there is a thick leather glove then you may mock him in his futile attempts to break skin. You are looking for unusual bumps, if you didn't feel anything odd then there is nothing there. The small risk is if it grows back, then you will have to go to the vets - I would assume they would have to extract the shaft and give antibiotics.

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



learnincurve posted:

What you need there is a thick leather glove then you may mock him in his futile attempts to break skin. You are looking for unusual bumps, if you didn't feel anything odd then there is nothing there. The small risk is if it grows back, then you will have to go to the vets - I would assume they would have to extract the shaft and give antibiotics.

Maybe I didn't check hard enough, but he neither screamed nor bit. Just some expressed some general dissatisfaction, but actually less violent than when I reach into the cage to change food bowls or toys around...

Battle Pigeon
Nov 7, 2011

I am dancing potato
give me millet



Haha, the glove. I could do this with Inko but he'd just get used to the glove, not my actual hands and skin, so eh

learnincurve posted:

What you need there is a thick leather glove then you may mock him in his futile attempts to break skin.

Or a coffee stirrer stick! When Inko gets towelled for nail filing we hold a stick in front of his beak, blocking his access to fingats. He goes through two or three of them in his rage and we remain unbitten.

You wouldn't be able to feel lumps and bumps through a thick glove anyway

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Current stage is that I have one glove on and then the other is free for scritches, if the non-gloved hand gets bit then the scritches stop, next step will be to keep transferring him over and then when a bite happens put him on the training perch which he Does Not Want. He's got no problem climbing all over me or any fear of the hands it's just that he loses his tiny one track mind when he sees OMG FINGATS OM NOM NOM

e: I will recreate that photo of Ama snuggled up in a hand falling asleep no matter how much blood it costs me drat it.

learnincurve fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Nov 15, 2016

Pile of Kittens
Apr 23, 2005

Why does everything STILL smell like pussy?

Apparently this happened at a craft beer festival in Melbourne last January.

uranium grass
Jan 15, 2005

Battle Pigeon posted:

Teach him to kiss on command, ask him to kiss before you go into the room, refuse until he kisses, when he does OH MY GOD WOW GOOD BORB and give a treat. Eventually he'll try kissing instead and then you just praise and be all YEAH GOOD BIRB while you're out of the room. Also praise talking etc

Also say something while you're leaving, like "I'm right here" or whatever and eventually he'll twig when you say that sort of thing you're still in existence and will come back in a moment

Been doing both of these already unfortunately which is why this is so frustrating to me when we've been trying very hard to be consistent. They've been really effective against all the other screaming times but the toilet is the weird exception. I've been rewarding and making a huge deal over good noises like kissy noise, attempt to talk, the sad beepboop flock call; basically anything verbal but the shrieking. We're pretty consistent when we leave the room, we say 'be right back' and keep talking to him while we're doing whatever, but as soon as the toilet flushes he's right back to shrieking :(

little_firebird
Sep 1, 2008

Why don't you
just eat your
belly button and die?!


Happiness is a full crop.

Also their feathers are just starting to come in!

Oldsrocket_27
Apr 28, 2009

subpar anachronism posted:

Been doing both of these already unfortunately which is why this is so frustrating to me when we've been trying very hard to be consistent. They've been really effective against all the other screaming times but the toilet is the weird exception. I've been rewarding and making a huge deal over good noises like kissy noise, attempt to talk, the sad beepboop flock call; basically anything verbal but the shrieking. We're pretty consistent when we leave the room, we say 'be right back' and keep talking to him while we're doing whatever, but as soon as the toilet flushes he's right back to shrieking :(

He may just hate that sound. Nicky hates it when we take a shower, and as soon as she hears it she goes full tantrum mode unless she's really enthralled with whatever she's playing with and the other of us is in the room with her. As soon as we come back, she calms right back down like it never happened. She'll get mad if she hears us going to the bathroom or washing our hands sometimes too, though not full cockatoo. We think that she just doesn't like hearing running water where she can't see it. We haven't tried to do anything about it, mostly because she can tell when we are trying to train her, and will very rarely cooperate once she realizes what's going on, with rare exceptions in cases of "I really want some cashew that badly." For the time being, our focus is still on getting her to step up on command, not just when she feels like it.

Shark Sandwich
Sep 6, 2010

by R. Guyovich

little_firebird posted:



Happiness is a full crop.

Also their feathers are just starting to come in!

The head reminds me of Crow T. Robot from MST3k

Pile of Kittens
Apr 23, 2005

Why does everything STILL smell like pussy?

Oldsrocket_27 posted:

We haven't tried to do anything about it, mostly because she can tell when we are trying to train her, and will very rarely cooperate once she realizes what's going on, with rare exceptions in cases of "I really want some cashew that badly."

Oh my god my GCC does the same thing. We've made a breakthrough with trust-building and papaya bits, but it's still hit and miss.

Everyday Goast
Nov 27, 2011

spoopy

Taco is coming home today! She has chlamydia!

E: i want to kiss everyone at the vets for being so understanding and reassuring

Everyday Goast fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Nov 16, 2016

Tendai
Mar 16, 2007

"When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber."

Grimey Drawer

Everyday Goast posted:

Taco is coming home today! She has chlamydia!

E: i want to kiss everyone at the vets for being so understanding and reassuring
Taco stop participating in risky sex!!!

How is she doing?

Everyday Goast
Nov 27, 2011

spoopy

Apparently she is doing well, has lost a little bit of weight so we are going to stuff her with treats and has to go on a 48 day course of antibiotics...but everything else is good!

uranium grass
Jan 15, 2005

I am so glad Taco is safe and coming home!! Get better soon Taco. Also wanna touch them squidgy ugly babies so much :3
Over here it is bathtime and everything in my kitchen is soaked.


little_firebird
Sep 1, 2008

Why don't you
just eat your
belly button and die?!
Also, I've taken to asking Velcro/Beato "Can I see the babbus?" before attempting to look at the babies.

I think they've learned what that means because if I say the phrase on a rare instance when neither parent is on the nest, Beato immediately goes protective floof mode and jumps to the nest.

A Good Mom.

Shirec
Jul 29, 2009

How to cock it up, Fig. I

Less quality but here are Kiwi and Sammy after I come home


Basically as soon as I start to pet Kiwi, Sammy runs over and jams himself in as far as he can go to start grooming.

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug
yeah sorry for lack of taco updates, i am pickinh her up from the vet tonight, i have just been so loving busy the past few days i haven't had time to do a write up

Will do a more substantial taco update later on tonight when i get a few free minutes

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

No worries, glad to know she's okay!

48 days of abx though, that is gonna be one cranky taco

Shark Sandwich
Sep 6, 2010

by R. Guyovich
Taco Tuesday is saved!

Tendai
Mar 16, 2007

"When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber."

Grimey Drawer

LITERALLY A BIRD posted:

No worries, glad to know she's okay!

48 days of abx though, that is gonna be one cranky taco

Muy caliente :heysexy:

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

little_firebird posted:

Also, I've taken to asking Velcro/Beato "Can I see the babbus?" before attempting to look at the babies.

I think they've learned what that means because if I say the phrase on a rare instance when neither parent is on the nest, Beato immediately goes protective floof mode and jumps to the nest.

A Good Mom.

When we bred parakeets, which nest inside boxes, we would gently tap on the box and they would calmly walk out.

They would sometimes stay in or come inside when the box was open. Even though they had an open path to outside the cage, they would never fly out except once and this is after opening lots of boxes over four years.

EVIL Gibson fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Nov 16, 2016

little_firebird
Sep 1, 2008

Why don't you
just eat your
belly button and die?!
Also I just checked again since both parents were off the nest, and both babbies have opened their eyes!! :kimchi:

e:

EVIL Gibson posted:

When we bred parakeets, which nest inside boxes, we would gently tap on the box and they would calmly walk out.

They would sometimes stay in or come inside when the box was open. Even though they had an open path to outside the cage, they would never fly out except once and this is after opening lots of boxes over four years.

Mom isn't as tamed as dad is and the babies aren't quite big enough to not be sat on just yet. Now that I think about it, I'm gonna have to get something slightly larger and land based over that gallon jug when the babies get adult-sized...

1500
Nov 3, 2015

Give me all your crackers
Good to hear about Taco.

Forsythia
Jan 28, 2007

You want bad advice?

Anything is okay if you don't get caught!

... I hope this helps!
Hey Max, how are you doing?



Hm. Hey Gotcha, how are you doing?



Alright, then.

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug
Taco update:

So on Sunday when we got Taco up we noticed she had lost her voice a little bit, was making a coughing like noise every now and then, and sneezing a bit more than usual. She was still eating and very energetic (not sitting at the bottom of the cage or anything like that), no discharge from the nose/eyes. We talked about it for a bit and then just went yeah gently caress it and took her to the vet.

The vet near us is really good (as I mentioned before), the avian specialist took a listen and could hear that she had a fair bit of mucous on the lungs, took a stool swab and blood sample etc. He seemed happy with her (other than the infection), nice bright feathers, energetic etc.

So we left her there for a few days (she went home with the vet on the first night, for closer observation), so they could begin a course of antibiotics, through injection, oral and also with a nebuliser to get the drugs all the way into her lungs.

Went and picked her up today, she seems happy to be home. We have to carry on the oral antibiotics for another 7 days, and to treat the chlamydia she is going to need a weekly injection of drugs, so taking her back to the vet every Sunday.

We reckon she picked it up at the place we left her a few weeks back when we went on holiday overseas, because before the holiday we took Taco to the same vet for a check up and she had a clean bill of health, and she has never been exposed to other birds before.

So I'll probably have to get my doctors to give me a blood test to make sure I haven't caught it from Taco, and they are probably likely to chuck a wobbly because I am immunocompromised so birds aren't ideal pets. But at the moment I am undergoing plasmapheresis, so good luck any pathogens surviving in my blood while that is happening!

have a taco photo from the same day before we took her to the vet:

Everyday Goast
Nov 27, 2011

spoopy

So if anyone has any pro tips for giving a bird meds with a syringe let me know. we tried the treats/nice food in the syringe trick but i think she may have already learnt from the vet that syringe = meds = yuck.

the disgust face she makes is pretty cute though.

Inglonias
Mar 7, 2013

I WILL PUT THIS FLAG ON FREAKING EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT IS SYMBOLIC AS HELL SOMEHOW

I'm very glad that Taco is going to be okay. That bird, huh?

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Shark Sandwich
Sep 6, 2010

by R. Guyovich

GoldStandardConure posted:

Taco update:

So on Sunday when we got Taco up we noticed she had lost her voice a little bit, was making a coughing like noise every now and then, and sneezing a bit more than usual. She was still eating and very energetic (not sitting at the bottom of the cage or anything like that), no discharge from the nose/eyes. We talked about it for a bit and then just went yeah gently caress it and took her to the vet.

The vet near us is really good (as I mentioned before), the avian specialist took a listen and could hear that she had a fair bit of mucous on the lungs, took a stool swab and blood sample etc. He seemed happy with her (other than the infection), nice bright feathers, energetic etc.

So we left her there for a few days (she went home with the vet on the first night, for closer observation), so they could begin a course of antibiotics, through injection, oral and also with a nebuliser to get the drugs all the way into her lungs.

Went and picked her up today, she seems happy to be home. We have to carry on the oral antibiotics for another 7 days, and to treat the chlamydia she is going to need a weekly injection of drugs, so taking her back to the vet every Sunday.

We reckon she picked it up at the place we left her a few weeks back when we went on holiday overseas, because before the holiday we took Taco to the same vet for a check up and she had a clean bill of health, and she has never been exposed to other birds before.

So I'll probably have to get my doctors to give me a blood test to make sure I haven't caught it from Taco, and they are probably likely to chuck a wobbly because I am immunocompromised so birds aren't ideal pets. But at the moment I am undergoing plasmapheresis, so good luck any pathogens surviving in my blood while that is happening!

have a taco photo from the same day before we took her to the vet:



Sounds like you guys managed to catch it early!

Also I've probably said this before but whenever you post a Taco pic all I can think of is "nice username/post combo! :haw:"

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