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| Goku |
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202 | 7.09% |
| Vegeta |
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279 | 9.79% |
| Krillin |
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208 | 7.30% |
| Piccolo or his nameks |
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212 | 7.44% |
| Gohan or Cool Gohan |
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135 | 4.74% |
| Yamcha |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Tien |
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120 | 4.21% |
| Muten Roshi |
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89 | 3.12% |
| Tao Pai Pai |
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71 | 2.49% |
| Frieza |
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69 | 2.42% |
| Cell or an android |
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86 | 3.02% |
| Buu |
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62 | 2.18% |
| Hercule "Mark" Satan |
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327 | 11.48% |
| Videl |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Bulma |
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104 | 3.65% |
| Yajirobe |
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99 | 3.47% |
| Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy |
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68 | 2.39% |
| King kai or another kai |
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53 | 1.86% |
| Chi-Chi |
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83 | 2.91% |
| Goten |
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43 | 1.51% |
| Trunks or Cool Trunks |
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112 | 3.93% |
| Bardock |
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48 | 1.68% |
| Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) |
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41 | 1.44% |
| Uub |
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42 | 1.47% |
| Oolong |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Zamasu |
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26 | 0.91% |
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Tarble needs to go Super Saiyan. And also Tarble's blobwife needs to go Super Blobwife.
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Nov 16, 2016 20:44
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Tarble and Raditz should fuse
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Nov 16, 2016 20:45
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do not get where this "super saiyan 3 is useless" thing comes from yeah it has huge drawbacks but if it wasn't for that both gotenks and goku would have been straight up murdered by Buu?
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Nov 16, 2016 20:45
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If it doesn't win a fight it's useless as fanboys are dumb.
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Nov 16, 2016 20:46
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Zore posted:tail circumcision is a touchy subject okay Naw this was covered in the movie they never released Where bulma and chi chi have to stop their little sweet babies from destroying society as we know it. It involved a hella lotta car driving and multiple macgyvered up sword launchers
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Nov 16, 2016 20:46
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sassassin posted:Name 30 guys that could beat up Raditz (movies don't count). Too easy. Freaking Cui was stronger than Raditz. Pui Pui was stronger than Raditz. Freeza's entire army in in Resurrection F, all of them were stronger than Raditz. TheKingofSprings posted:SS2 is barely a change and SS3 looks like a Neanderthal on everyone but Gotenks, fight me SSJ2 was a huge change when Gohan used against Cell Not at all afterwards though. Augus fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Nov 16, 2016 |
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Nov 16, 2016 20:48
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Kelp Plankton posted:Tarble and Raditz should fuse Need Tarbles and Zamusa to fuse.
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Nov 16, 2016 20:48
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...Has King Vegeta ever been playable/fightable in a DBZ game? Has he gotten less love than Appule and Freeza Soldier #s 24-43?
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Nov 16, 2016 20:50
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Kelp Plankton posted:Tarble and Raditz should fuse There should be a timeline where Raditz and Tarble switch places with Goku and Vegeta. Nappa is still Nappa though.
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Nov 16, 2016 20:52
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Spiritus Nox posted:...Has King Vegeta ever been playable/fightable in a DBZ game? Has he gotten less love than Appule and Freeza Soldier #s 24-43? He was in Budokai Tenkaichi 3 and I think 2 as well
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Nov 16, 2016 20:53
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Blockhouse posted:do not get where this "super saiyan 3 is useless" thing comes from Super Saiyan 3 is the modern equivalent of the high-power form that Trunks used. It has such a huge drawback that using it in battle for anything but a short burst is going to be trivially exploited by a smart foe. It drains energy so fast that they just have to outlast you and if you're fighting someone who needs to go Super Saiyan 3 they're probably capable of doing that. Once they do you're drained of energy/fusion time/whatever and promptly are screwed.
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Nov 16, 2016 20:56
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SS3's coolest moment was the part of the Budokai 2 opening where Goku's beating the poo poo out of Kid Buu and also nature.
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Nov 16, 2016 20:57
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Also the simple fact of the matter is that, on screen, SSJ3 never allows our heroes to do much more than just tread water with their opponents, which by definition makes it way less impressive than SSJ1, 2, or even just the Kaioken, which all contriubted to decisive blows or outright finishers against major villains.
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Nov 16, 2016 20:58
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Augus posted:Freeza's entire army in in Resurrection F, all of them were stronger than Raditz. That can't be right. Roshi beat a lot of those guys and he isn't anywhere close to Raditz's level.
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Nov 16, 2016 21:02
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Spiritus Nox posted:Also the simple fact of the matter is that, on screen, SSJ3 never allows our heroes to do much more than just tread water with their opponents, which by definition makes it way less impressive than SSJ1, 2, or even just the Kaioken, which all contriubted to decisive blows or outright finishers against major villains. Yeah but that's really more the problem of Buu outclassing everyone and having a near limitless well of ki than anything actually wrong with super saiyan 3, which hypothetically would work fine in ending a fight really quickly
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Nov 16, 2016 21:02
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Well it got to be part of a cool finishing blow in Wrath of the Dragon at least. 
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Nov 16, 2016 21:03
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Blockhouse posted:Yeah but that's really more the problem of Buu outclassing everyone and having a near limitless well of ki than anything actually wrong with super saiyan 3, which hypothetically would work fine in ending a fight really quickly You're talking about power levels, I'm talking about dramatic framing. It's not about how strong SSJ3 is, it's about whether or not it does anything particularly cool on screen.
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Nov 16, 2016 21:04
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Spiritus Nox posted:You're talking about power levels, I'm talking about dramatic framing. It's not about how strong SSJ3 is, it's about whether or not it does anything particularly cool on screen. Eh it's basically the same argument, just it's seen as more acceptable for some dumb reason.
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Nov 16, 2016 21:06
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CharlestheHammer posted:Eh it's basically the same argument, just it's seen as more acceptable for some dumb reason. It absolutely isn't though? It's all about the narrative. In the narrative, the coolest fight we get out of SSJ3, it's shining moment, is Goku fighting Fat Buu. Which does not rank up near as high as Kaioken's first fight, SSJs or SSJ2s. It does fare better than Super Trunks and Super Vegeta though in that its worst showing isn't in that same fight. Really the problem with SSJ3 narratively isn't that it ever actually fails, just that it never amounts to anything. It's just a new thing Goku can do that Gotenks picks up on but is largely made irrelevant by Gohan and Vegito. It's just A Thing Goku Can Do To Get Stronger In A Vague Way. Which as Battle of Gods showed us, Vegeta could surpass as just a SSJ2 if he was given a reason to.
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Nov 16, 2016 21:23
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the buu saga was the original end of dragonball and in it, the heroes could finally not beat the Big Bad by simply powering up into a new form like with every other Big Bad before. Buu could take everything SSJ3 could dish out... It was a deliberate twist by Toriyama
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Nov 16, 2016 21:26
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Burkion posted:It absolutely isn't though? Vegito doesn't accomplish poo poo either but weirdly no one cares. Also SS3 vs kid Buu was a fun fight.
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Nov 16, 2016 21:28
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Zzulu posted:the buu saga was the original end of dragonball and in it, the heroes could finally not beat the Big Bad by simply powering up into a new form like with every other Big Bad before. Buu could take everything SSJ3 could dish out... It was a deliberate twist by Toriyama I don't disagree about the likely intent, but this doesn't entirely work when Vegito, by all appearances, absolutely could simply vaporize Buu at his strongest and simply chose not to in order to save the absorbees, and then got defused basically by authorial fiat.
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Nov 16, 2016 21:29
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Zzulu posted:the cell saga was the original end of dragonball and in it, goku died and gohan became the hero we all deserved
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Nov 16, 2016 21:36
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Everyone knows the saga was suppose to end with Raditz, jeez.
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Nov 16, 2016 21:39
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Burkion posted:It's all about the narrative. In the narrative, the coolest fight we get out of SSJ3, it's shining moment, is Goku fighting Fat Buu. Which does not rank up near as high as Kaioken's first fight, SSJs or SSJ2s. I think that idea has been kind of lost with the billion video games and such since then that depict the Cell Saga and immediately identify it as "Super Saiyan 2 Gohan" or something. It's kind of similar to how the phrase "Majin Vegeta" never actually appears in the manga, and I don't think it does in the anime either, but is all over the video games.
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Nov 16, 2016 21:40
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Buu was the only arc that had over a decade-long gap afterwards before any new canon material was added to the series, unless you were watching the series on Toonami in which case every arc was the last one.
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Nov 16, 2016 21:43
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Augus posted:Buu was the only arc that had over a decade-long gap afterwards before any new canon material was added to the series, unless you were watching the series on Toonami in which case every arc was the last one. DBZ actually ended when Goku landed on Namek.
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Nov 16, 2016 21:44
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Rhonne posted:DBZ actually ended when Goku landed on Namek. He beat Raccome and all plot threads were resolved,
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Nov 16, 2016 21:46
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Rhonne posted:DBZ actually ended when Goku landed on Namek. Nah it ended after the Garlic Jr Saga Because it never left the Garlic Jr Saga loving reruns
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Nov 16, 2016 21:46
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ANIME THEORY: NAPPA ACTUALLY KILLED GOKU AND THE REST OF THE SERIES IS HIS DYING DREAM
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Nov 16, 2016 21:47
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ss3 made a lot of sense when goku was dead and had infinite ki or w/e it's kinda funny that he'd probably have mopped the floor with kid buu if he hadn't been wished back already. he even says he would have won if he hadn't stalled and wasted all his energy to let vegeta have a turn at fighting buu Spiritus Nox posted:ANIME THEORY: NAPPA ACTUALLY KILLED GOKU AND THE REST OF THE SERIES IS HIS DYING DREAM this but raditz
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Nov 16, 2016 21:48
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DBZ ended at the end of the Emperor Pilaf Saga. 
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Nov 16, 2016 21:48
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Zedd posted:DBZ ended at the end of the Emperor Pilaf Saga. That's still happening.
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Nov 16, 2016 21:54
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Goku, Vegeta, and Bulma will return to the past only to find that Pilaf has finally taken over the world.
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Nov 16, 2016 21:56
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Pilaf was Garlic Jr. all along.
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Nov 16, 2016 21:57
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Pilaf is actually Garlic Sr.
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Nov 16, 2016 21:59
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CharlestheHammer posted:Vegito doesn't accomplish poo poo either but weirdly no one cares.
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Nov 16, 2016 22:00
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Yeah, Vegito spends several episodes mocking and humiliating Buu at his absolute strongest and never once even looks like he's really trying. Just because he purposely threw the fight so that he could get absorbed and save his buddies doesn't mean the viewer isn't likely to be utterly convinced of his superiority by the end. It's not like SSJ3 Goku and Gotenks, who visibly never look much better than even with their opponents and only in retrospect get to say "If I could just hold that a little longer/better I could have maybe squeaked out a win if I was lucky."
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Nov 16, 2016 22:04
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Vegito's most important actions were holding his own in battle while transformed into a Malteaser.
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Nov 16, 2016 22:04
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Rationalize it how you want.
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Nov 16, 2016 22:05
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