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Business Gorillas posted:Turns out people eventually figured out that he wasn't actually for these policies in any substantive way and they called Hillary's bluff when she tried to do the same thing Ding ding ding! Exactly.
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/798986221703794688 I wonder if he threw out Bolton's name just to terrify people, it certainly worked for me. Every time a new name comes out now I just think "OK at least it's not Bolton."
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Am I drinking too much kool-aid by following @sarahkendzior ? I have a feeling I'm just working myself up over the stuff being posted, but dammit it feels right.
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/798986221703794688 It's basically this scene only with politician names https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LCggmsCXk4&t=13s
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Business Gorillas posted:Reconcile the continued discrimination of the Mizrahi and the Sephardi in a supposedly Jewish state tia I think you are picking me out as a strawman for Israel. I've never been to the country, and am not Jewish and I don't know the details of the issues you mention. But I can't stand to see people say horrible stuff about people mainly for their ethnicity/religion. It's got me in trouble on Reddit for sticking up for the Muslims (I am not a Muslim) and I suspect it's going to continue getting me in trouble. Remember many Muslim countries suck at least as hard as Israel (Iran loves to stone the gays and Afghanistan has worse women's rights than the Handmaid's Tale) - and people here saying blanket things about Muslims being horrible would get flamed.
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TheBigAristotle posted:I always thought Alfred's speech about the Joker's motivations (or lack thereof) was the most accurate summation of Trump, but now I'm thinking it's this clip about the Joker chasing cars and not knowing what to do if he ever caught one. The other half of that story is that the dog dies. It gets the car, dies on impact, leaving its body and the car to get pissed on by other dogs smart enough to wait. See: Trump's current game of musical staff chairs
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BarbarianElephant posted:I think you are picking me out as a strawman for Israel. I've never been to the country, and am not Jewish and I don't know the details of the issues you mention. But I can't stand to see people say horrible stuff about people mainly for their ethnicity/religion. It's got me in trouble on Reddit for sticking up for the Muslims (I am not a Muslim) and I suspect it's going to continue getting me in trouble. Remember many Muslim countries suck at least as hard as Israel (Iran loves to stone the gays and Afghanistan has worse women's rights than the Handmaid's Tale) - and people here saying blanket things about Muslims being horrible would get flamed.
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So Bernie is making a speech to the American People tonight. Considering he just got appointed the head of the DNCs outreach I think we might get some good stuff.
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/798986221703794688 Should be Nikki Minaj tbqh
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BarbarianElephant posted:I think you are picking me out as a strawman for Israel. I've never been to the country, and am not Jewish and I don't know the details of the issues you mention. But I can't stand to see people say horrible stuff about people mainly for their ethnicity/religion. It's got me in trouble on Reddit for sticking up for the Muslims (I am not a Muslim) and I suspect it's going to continue getting me in trouble. Remember many Muslim countries suck at least as hard as Israel (Iran loves to stone the gays and Afghanistan has worse women's rights than the Handmaid's Tale) - and people here saying blanket things about Muslims being horrible would get flamed. So you'd rather run around calling people anti-semites as opposed to actually understanding legitimate grievances or nuance? How shockingly familiar.
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BarbarianElephant posted:No, I don't like that either. There are many innocent people in Israel who don't agree politically with their leaders, including many Muslims remember. I don't want to drat a whole country. They're not. They're damning the country's policy. 
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So basically Trump has no transition team and doesn't understand what his new job is going to be, and is, in a great and organized fashion, just randomly saying names of people he has heard of and departments he just learned about? Cool.
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Floating all these people with no diplomatic or foreign policy experience or knowledge to be the world's top diplomat is pretty weird, even for Trump. I don't know who this is supposed to be for.
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Stereotype posted:So basically Trump has no transition team and doesn't understand what his new job is going to be, and is, in a great and organized fashion, just randomly saying names of people he has heard of and departments he just learned about? This is what happens when you hire a complete outside with literally no experience and very little political know-how. If he had any morals (lol), he'd cede the job to Hillary. But lol about that ever happening.
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BarbarianElephant posted:No, I don't like that either. There are many innocent people in Israel who don't agree politically with their leaders, including many Muslims remember. I don't want to drat a whole country. Friend, calling out the notoriously racist Israely government and it's military for the war crimes they have committed is not anti-semitic. One can correctly identify the crimes the N. Korean government have committed against their people and this person would not be a racist just because they pointed something bad out. You made a very poor argument, friend.
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Looks like the chaos option of getting literally nothing done for the next 4 years is in, boys. Hail Satan 
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So at this point whose name hasn't been floated for either SoS or AG?
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Stereotype posted:So basically Trump has no transition team and doesn't understand what his new job is going to be, and is, in a great and organized fashion, just randomly saying names of people he has heard of and departments he just learned about? Now would be a good time to send a bunch of tweets his way. See if you can get him to remember you and name you as one of his department heads!
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703 posted:Am I drinking too much kool-aid by following @sarahkendzior ? She's a little over the top (particularly considering Trump has almost certainly fallen into white nationalism out of convenience rather than conviction) but people should absolutely not be caught off guard. Authoritarianism can move very quickly, and it's been said a couple times in this thread that we're one terrorist attack away from our own Reichstag Fire Decree.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Friend, calling out the notoriously racist Israely government and it's military for the war crimes they have committed is not anti-semitic. It's the typical arc of Smug White Liberal reading some headlines and trying to be an "ally" for his own sense of superiority without any idea as to what's actually going on.* * - the other option is I'm getting supertrolled and my head careening towards my own rear end at an alarming rate
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703 posted:Am I drinking too much kool-aid by following @sarahkendzior ? Sarah Kendzior is literally insane. Don't do this to yourself. E- For those not familiar with her: https://twitter.com/sarahkendzior/status/798860958034788353
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:So at this point whose name hasn't been floated for either SoS or AG? mine 
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Friend, calling out the notoriously racist Israely government and it's military for the war crimes they have committed is not anti-semitic. To go along with this, if you want a concrete example of terrible poo poo that the Israeli government never really got held to task for: The Israeli army has in the past handcuffed Palestinian children to the roof of military vehicles and literally used them as actual human shields.
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Spacebump posted:I love that Rick Perry was one of the first established politicians to be pro-Trump and Trump still won't give him anything. Oops.
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Business Gorillas posted:Turns out people eventually figured out that he wasn't actually for these policies in any substantive way and they called Hillary's bluff when she tried to do the same thing  "Yea no one likes tepid incrementalism but the fact that Hillary is a woman should be enough to drive out the voters" *no one gets excited for hillary* "WHY ARENT YOU EXCITED YOU loving SEXIST BERNIE BROS AGHHHH" *hisses and dissapears*
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BarbarianElephant posted:If I was Jewish I'd feel that people who start frothing at the mouth about "Israel" and Israel only (when there are many terrible governments in the world) are probably not very far from getting pretty weird about Jews in general. Hello. I am an actual Jew. You do not have the moral authority to define antisemitism. The vast majority of American Jews are reform, and have a much more nuanced view of Israel than you are demonstrating. Please have this discussion with your Jewish friends, and if you don't have any, please make some before forming an opinion on this issue.
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Hah loser, I'm presently the front runner for the department of agriculture.
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BarbarianElephant posted:I think you are picking me out as a strawman for Israel. I've never been to the country, and am not Jewish and I don't know the details of the issues you mention. But I can't stand to see people say horrible stuff about people mainly for their ethnicity/religion. It's got me in trouble on Reddit for sticking up for the Muslims (I am not a Muslim) and I suspect it's going to continue getting me in trouble. Remember many Muslim countries suck at least as hard as Israel (Iran loves to stone the gays and Afghanistan has worse women's rights than the Handmaid's Tale) - and people here saying blanket things about Muslims being horrible would get flamed. "Hello I was too lazy to read anything about the topic. Anyway, let me give you my opinion:"
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:Hello. I am an actual Jew. You do not have the moral authority to define antisemitism. The vast majority of American Jews are reform, and have a much more nuanced view of Israel than you are demonstrating. Please have this discussion with your Jewish friends, and if you don't have any, please make some before forming an opinion on this issue. I am also an  ACTUAL JEW while emptyquoting this
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DeathSandwich posted:To go along with this, if you want a concrete example of terrible poo poo that the Israeli government never really got held to task for: The Israeli army has in the past handcuffed Palestinian children to the roof of military vehicles and literally used them as actual human shields. You fuckin' nazi I can't believe you just called all jewish people war criminals 
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BarbarianElephant posted:No, I don't like that either. There are many innocent people in Israel who don't agree politically with their leaders, including many Muslims remember. I don't want to drat a whole country. This is a pretty bad attempt to walk it back, guy. You weren't talking about "don't drat the people with the nation's name" in your earlier post, and this second post doesn't smokescreen for you like you hope it would.
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:Hello. I am an actual Jew. You do not have the moral authority to define antisemitism. The vast majority of American Jews are reform, and have a much more nuanced view of Israel than you are demonstrating. Please have this discussion with your Jewish friends, and if you don't have any, please make some before forming an opinion on this issue. I think the vast majority are secular and not affiliated with a certain sect.
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Scent of Worf posted:Sarah Kendzior is literally insane. Don't do this to yourself. It's one of those things where she's been right about some important things but hoo boy, she's really getting into this whole, "America is being turned into a fascist authoritarian state right under our noses, you all need to coordinate and fight this. I won't tell you any ideas for where to even start, though. Also ask yourself why Obama is capitulating so easily. No, I won't give you any hints, I already said too much!" It's like every time she starts making sense and provides good evidence, she takes a sharp turn and dives into vague conspiracy doomsaying. I'm not even sure how wrong she is, but she's not being helpful even if she's right.
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(((Business Gorillas))) posted:I am also an (((ACTUAL JEW))) while emptyquoting this I think this is what you meant.
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Potato Salad posted:This is a pretty bad attempt to walk it back, guy. You weren't talking about "don't drat the people with the nation's name" in your earlier post, and this second post doesn't smokescreen for you like you hope it would. I will actually be surprised if he comes back around and realizes hes wrong. He's a living, breathing, example of liberal superiority complex.
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mcmagic posted:I think the vast majority are secular and not affiliated with a certain sect. That's what reform is, idiot
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Business Gorillas posted:That's what reform is, idiot Nope. Reform is a sect. There are "Reformed Temples."
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I'm half jewish so i can b critical of apartheid but if i say too much the real jews will disappear me, g-d bless
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Harrow posted:It's one of those things where she's been right about some important things but hoo boy, she's really getting into this whole, "America is being turned into a fascist authoritarian state right under our noses, you all need to coordinate and fight this. I won't tell you any ideas for where to even start, though. Also ask yourself why Obama is capitulating so easily. No, I won't give you any hints, I already said too much!" "In the meantime follow me on twitter for the latest updates"
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