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When I first saw he didn't have any damaging guns I figured he was just going to be another meme-piece. He seems really strong with Elara (Dark Shroud and Retalitory strike are cool) but I'm not sure who else would be good with him. I have a sneaking suspicion all the stuff I like in Ret (Rahn, Kaelyssa, Disco, Sents) is getting dumpstered to unplayability in January so I'm looking to diversify. EDIT: Can someone explain to me why every Helynna list I see has a buttload of Manticores instead of stuff that has better guns like the Hydra or Banshee? Hand of Destruction seems pretty pointless on pow 12 (it seems like either you put it on something that's going to die to one or two pow 12s making it a waste of time, or put it on something that's too chunky to care about even premium pow 12), but I've never really played with the hand of fate effects so maybe I'm missing something. fadam fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Nov 13, 2016 |
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Nov 13, 2016 21:32
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fadam posted:When I first saw he didn't have any damaging guns I figured he was just going to be another meme-piece. He seems really strong with Elara (Dark Shroud and Retalitory strike are cool) but I'm not sure who else would be good with him. I have a sneaking suspicion all the stuff I like in Ret (Rahn, Kaelyssa, Disco, Sents) is getting dumpstered to unplayability in January so I'm looking to diversify. Helios is good with an accuracy buff, IMO. Rahn is my favorite choice, plus polarity shield on Helios is hilarious, but just some way to make him not have to rely on his RAT5 is all he really needs. The Manticores are there for volume of attacks, really. HoD shines when you wash huge amounts of dice through it and Manticores are really the only jacks that allow that to happen through being our only non ROF1 jack and also cheap enough to get multiples. You'd be surprised how many heavies will die to a bunch of boosted HoD POW12's (that end 15" away from the target, safe from most charges).
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Nov 13, 2016 23:14
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Pyrolocutus posted:You make the ranged and melee attacks simultaneously, but can take them in any order. That lets you drag something in then wail on it. Or it lets a blitzer under jarl skuld charge something, punch it, take a shot on something else entirely, swift hunter, shoot, swift hunter, take his other initial melee, shoot, swift hunter, then buy more attacks! Live the dual attack dream!
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Nov 14, 2016 00:15
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Jimmy Hats posted:Or it lets a blitzer under jarl skuld charge something, punch it, take a shot on something else entirely, swift hunter, shoot, swift hunter, take his other initial melee, shoot, swift hunter, then buy more attacks! Live the dual attack dream! Quicken and Magic bullet really let's you lay on the pain. Put Rage/Primal on as well. The fun never ends!
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Nov 14, 2016 00:26
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Mad Libs theme forces continue - From Minions FB - "All Farrow warlocks+ Dr A. non-character farrow warbeasts EFAARIT MODELS/UNITS Farrow Models/Units AA, GtW, Hobh, RMtim, SO, SGC, VP, R&B every 20pts of farrow units or battle engines= a free non-character solo, weapon crew, or command attachment. Farrow Warbeasts gainRetalitory strike one Farrow Commando unit gains Ambush" Make your own at home!
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Nov 14, 2016 01:17
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the store i work at had a sale this weekend, 50% off of WMH, so being the smart man i am i realized this was better than my employee discount and decided to pick up a couple casters for menoth, since i just ordered a butt ton of that now im assembling intercessor kreoss and i hate him so goddamn much THE HORSE WAS EASIER TO ASSEMBLE THAN THE DUDE gently caress Fuck Whitey fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Nov 14, 2016 |
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Nov 14, 2016 01:19
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I played a small game of Warmachine for the first time in years this past weekend!! Using the new mk3 ruleset! It was exciting. I've only ever played a few games back in mk1, and some of the Iron Kingdoms RPG, but my friend had never played at all. My friend was playing the Retribution starter set, just the warcaster and the three warjacks (myrmidons?). So I used my only warcaster and my only three painted warjacks, which were Feora1, a Castigator, Crusader, and Dervish. I like the Protectorate of Menoth. I lost! I wasn't really expecting to do too well, I was never good at this game. But I did get to set everything on fire, so I succeeded at small goals at least. And, while he won in the end, I had Feora use Engine of Destruction to go toe-to-toe with one of his warjacks and come out on top, so he at least got to see what she could do. But he kept repairing his warjacks and used his feat to restore all their barrier fields or whatever, while hiding in a forest, and I just couldn't take him out. Now, my battlegroup maybe wasn't, like, "well-thought-out" or anything, since I originally got the Castigator and Crusader so they could throw my exploding flamethrower dudes back in mk1, but it went okay I guess. I may have lost, but I didn't lose miserably or anything.
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Nov 14, 2016 07:52
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I just put together the plastic Stormclad and I'm very impressed. It's miles better than the lovely old metal one. It makes me excited for if they start producing more real plastic kits in the future.
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Nov 14, 2016 08:51
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Friendly Fire posted:I just put together the plastic Stormclad and I'm very impressed. It's miles better than the lovely old metal one. The seether/inflictor box was a joy to put together.
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Nov 14, 2016 17:04
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:I don't have pms but I'm interested in a few of those. Ive been holding off on stones because i expect them to get nerfed pretty bad. Hey pal, sorry i didn't get back to you! I ended up getting a lot of local trade requests (turns out circle is extremely easy to get rid of) and most of the lot is gone! It's probably too small for an SA mart dealie now, and i don't want to poo poo up the thread with it, but if you wanted to e-mail me at Twilight_M@hotmail.com i can tell you whats left!
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Nov 14, 2016 18:29
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gently caress Whitey posted:the store i work at had a sale this weekend, 50% off of WMH, so being the smart man i am i realized this was better than my employee discount and decided to pick up a couple casters for menoth, since i just ordered a butt ton of that Ditch his stupid, STUPID flags and make yourself much happier. Imo he also looks better without the silly things
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Nov 14, 2016 20:43
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I ditched the flags on kreoss 2 and was much, much happier
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Nov 14, 2016 21:00
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So after picking up some painted and slightly battered models from bartertown super cheap, the lot I got had 3 repenters in it. I already have 2 from the mk1 and mk3 battle boxes I got. I want to have Malekus with Hand of Judgement leading 5 repenter ducklings around. I know this will be a dumb and bad thing but I want you to help me build it. So starting with a base of 5 repenters, HoJ, a choir, and probably Rhoven since I put them in basically every list, I've got 32 points left. What would be a good ignite target? I've got errants, cinerators, idrians, and will get some knights exemplar soonish. Feora1 and Feora2 are also options but additional die to fire seem like the most likely way to make this semi functional.
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Nov 15, 2016 05:23
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chutche2 posted:So after picking up some painted and slightly battered models from bartertown super cheap, the lot I got had 3 repenters in it. I already have 2 from the mk1 and mk3 battle boxes I got. Idrians
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Nov 15, 2016 05:25
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You could jack marshal some of them, that +2 to hit seems amazing on repenter sprays. Tradeoff no open fire but you have a stack of other targets for it. I have been vaguely considering a reckoner / reclaimer / vassal package just because applying flare is a pain in the rear end and that's the only way of getting a Rat7 boosted flare off now. A buccaneer would probably make more sense i guess.
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Nov 15, 2016 05:55
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I don't think I have a jack marshal. I've got Tristan though. Reclaimer is pretty cheap but I mean I don't see myself ever taking one of the marshals over Tristan in any real list so I don't plan on getting one.
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Nov 15, 2016 06:00
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chutche2 posted:I don't think I have a jack marshal. I've got Tristan though. They're pretty good with Redeemers under pKreoss, but they're probably not a priority purchase.
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Nov 15, 2016 06:06
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CaptCommy posted:They're pretty good with Redeemers under pKreoss, but they're probably not a priority purchase. Why's that? if I'm doing a pop and drop, then for 1 point more I can have boosts with tristan instead of having +2 damage. Have a shield guard protecting him and you can have two redeemers with 3 focus each. JMs need some kind of drive to be better than taking a junior, except in edge cases like some of the jacks that make their own focus. chutche2 fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Nov 15, 2016 |
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Nov 15, 2016 06:07
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Yeah tristan with 2 redeemers is straight money - he's pretty much never going to die 8" behind your two 16" range jacks. Marshalling a redeemer can be arguably better than the focus since the +damage applies to every roll, and redeemers very often make more than 3 damage rolls per activation - on the other hand having to aim is a pain in the rear end. Not relevant for pop and drop though. Probably mostly relevant if you wanted the reclaimer anyway for future sight etc - if you're playing sev2 for example future sight is the best thing in the world for him.
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Nov 15, 2016 06:15
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(and don't forget future sight is as close as we get to a caster-independent hit buff on our heavies, which is pretty relevant in a Def12 world)
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Nov 15, 2016 06:18
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What would be important things to keep in mind when list building for Rumble? Especially at 25points?
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Nov 15, 2016 12:28
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Iceclaw posted:What would be important things to keep in mind when list building for Rumble? Especially at 25points? High POW attacks all day every day. This is what i play at 25 pts. Vlad2 -Behemoth Iron Fang Pikemen -UA Kayazy Eliminators It plays 4 points down which isn't ideal but has plenty of threat range, the pair of hand of fated behemoth guns, a spell to keep you safe from enemy shooting, and high def models for jamming important things. Works good!
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Nov 15, 2016 13:43
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I played this at 25 recently and had some good results: Borka2 -Dire Troll Mauler -Slag Troll -Slag Troll Trollkin Warders (min) Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) -Stone Scribe Elder Slag trolls being at 10 you can swap them for Troll Axer if you want. Borka can give the Warders cold immunity so they are protected under feat. Warders also have Shield Guard now (yea, they are awesome) to help with ranged stuff. I felt like I was able to deal with anything I might come up against and having 3 things that can countercharge when lists are already quite small is huge, because it felt like whatever they did to get up close would result in me sticking a warbeast in their face.
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Played this list yesterday and had a good time, my opponent played Kraye with 2 Centurions, Dynamo and a couple of Chargers along with whatever Cygnar's Cav that threatens half the board is called. Long story short Kraye hates fire and blast damage. Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points (Horgle 2) Horgle, the Anvil [+29] - Dire Troll Blitzer [16] - Dire Troll Bomber [19] - Dire Troll Mauler [15] - Dozer & Smigg [18] - Trollkin Runebearer [4] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (max) [9] - Stone Scribe Elder [3] Trollkin Fennblades (max) [15] - Fennblade Officer and Drummer [5] There was a question that came up around deviations though where what we saw didn't seem to line up with the math. 4in AOE centered on a large based model deviates 3 inches. Using proxies and laying everything as flat as we could it looked like the large based model was just barely clipped by the AOE, however my opponent argued that the math says it should be out. Anyone have a definitive answer?
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Nov 15, 2016 17:40
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This is one of those instances where someone else might come along and make me look like an idiot, but your opponent is technically right. Large based models are 50mm, which is about 2inches. So if the AOE deviates 3inches and models within 2inches of the center of the deviation are struck, a large based model would technically be out of the AOE range, though only very slightly. 50mm isn't exactly 2 inches, but 1.96inches. So the model would technically be .04 inches outside of the AOE. However, we aren't using computers to precisely move everything, so slight variances will happen.
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Nov 15, 2016 18:05
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Nah, I just did the math and the large based model would be just out.
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A large base is 50mm, or 1.97 inches. This means you have to deviate at least 1/2(1.97)(distance from center point to edge of base)+2(half the 4' template) or 2.985 inches to miss it. So your opponent was right.
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Nov 15, 2016 18:07
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Phew, I thought I was about to look like an idiot.
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Thanks everyone, good to know going forward.
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Nov 15, 2016 20:02
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Jimmy Hats posted:I ditched the flags on kreoss 2 and was much, much happier Is there a good way of ditching the flag on floatgirl?
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LordAba posted:Is there a good way of ditching the flag on floatgirl? yeah, they just snap off after you transport them somewhere
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Nov 16, 2016 01:11
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LordAba posted:Is there a good way of ditching the flag on floatgirl? You just have to believe in yourself and Say No to Stupid Fiddly Menoth Bits. Those spikes on Feora2's backpack? gone! Kreoss flags? Ditch 'em! Weights on the wrack? Geddoutta there!
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Nov 16, 2016 04:22
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Jimmy Hats posted:You just have to believe in yourself and Say No to Stupid Fiddly Menoth Bits. I think you could make the Wrack weights really cool with a tiny bit of jewelry chain so they actually dangle and sway, and also make them less ridiculously break-prone. Harby's flag arm can gently caress right off though. Really any pewter flag is stupid and bad and shouldn't exist. Plastic has its problems, but imo it is WORLDS better when it comes to those dumb little fiddly bits and flags. Magres fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Nov 16, 2016 |
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Nov 16, 2016 05:59
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Holy poo poo, gently caress assembling the loving gobber tinker. Six points of contact that must be glued simultaneously? Eat my rear end. After 17 attempts I just threw the shithead in the trash.
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Nov 16, 2016 07:41
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rydiafan posted:Holy poo poo, gently caress assembling the loving gobber tinker. Six points of contact that must be glued simultaneously? Eat my rear end. After 17 attempts I just threw the shithead in the trash. A tiny ball of green stuff on each of the contact points held it in place while the glue dried for me.
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Nov 16, 2016 08:20
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Magres posted:I think you could make the Wrack weights really cool with a tiny bit of jewelry chain so they actually dangle and sway, and also make them less ridiculously break-prone. I did the chain thing for stacks ,it is way easier than assembling them out of the box and the chain is super cheap. My harbie has a spare errant shield instead of her flag because screw that
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Magres posted:WrackChat My favourite wrack both to play and transport is the one I made from the bit that goes on pReznik's back. It makes Reznik less busy and is a convenient folded wrack.
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http://privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?254747-Spraying-over-a-cloud-template&p=3736611&viewfull=1#post3736611 Interesting ruling. Unlike normal cloud effects, clouds that are hazards or that are Dense Fog count as terrain and so will stop sprays.
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So I guess murder of crows got a buff?
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