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Darth Walrus posted:- because this episode made it clear that they've been together for a while, and Viktor just took it a lot more public than it already was.[/spoiler] Have they? It seems to me that this was a new thing, based on how Victor says 'I had to find a way to surprise you more than you just surprised me.' quote:Poor Georgi. But yay for Georgi's ex and her happiness! Yeah, Georgi isn't an unsympathetic character, but I have to agree that his ex-girlfriend is probably better off leaving that drama train behind.
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a cartoon duck posted:If I believe strongly enough that they will kiss then they absolutely will. See, it worked.
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Nov 16, 2016 23:25
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a cartoon duck posted:See, it worked. Thank you for your hard work.
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Rand Brittain posted:Have they? It seems to me that this was a new thing, based on how Victor says 'I had to find a way to surprise you more than you just surprised me.' They have been really comfortable and touchy-freely with each other for quite a while now, and that conversation in the carpark very much felt like Viktor was quietly freaking out about how their physical intimacy hadn't helped with their emotional intimacy enough for him to know how to make his boyfriend feel better. As in, 'I know you like kisses, will that help here? Because I am seriously out of my depth in all this'. The other skaters also seem to be responding to them very much like they know they're already a couple. There was also how little follow-through there was after the initial shock - it felt less like 'holy poo poo Yuuri Katsuki and Viktor Nikiforov are an item' and more like 'holy poo poo he finished that incredible performance off with a smooch from his boyfriend'. Basically, there's just this general aura of comfort and familiarity to all of this that makes it feel like this is not where these two became a couple.
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it's hosed up that i'm too cynical to think they actually kissed. really liked the dynamic this episode, where yuri shifted into having the upper hand hard. it's nice to see viktor feel off his game for a little bit and makes him way more relatable/likable.
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Rand Brittain posted:Yeah, Georgi isn't an unsympathetic character There's nothing sympathetic about some dumbass het thinking he owns a woman a cartoon duck posted:See, it worked. Years down the line this moment will go a long way towards your recognition as a saint.
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Adelheid posted:There's nothing sympathetic about some dumbass het thinking he owns a woman He's being weird about it but ultimately all he's doing is a really complicated interpretive dance where he begs her (internally) to come back to him. Working out your complexes via art is honestly pretty healthy if it means he doesn't feel the need to actually try and get her to come back to him. EDIT: I guess it could be kind of weird for her to show up and have him do a dance that she recognizes as being about his feelings about their breakup? I'm not sure about the ethics there. Rand Brittain fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Nov 17, 2016 |
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Nov 17, 2016 01:17
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dogsicle posted:it's hosed up that i'm too cynical to think they actually kissed. really liked the dynamic this episode, where yuri shifted into having the upper hand hard. it's nice to see viktor feel off his game for a little bit and makes him way more relatable/likable.  Also more Viktor scenes where he realized he messed up and apologized to Yuri. As much as I like Viktor being perfect at everything it gets a bit tiring and unrelatable. Finally I can see my favorite ice skater back next episode. I'm hyped to see how much Yurio has grown since his Japan trip.
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Nov 17, 2016 01:25
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Georgi is more pathetic than sympathetic. I wonder how he managed to convince his ex to come see his performance.
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Fangz posted:Georgi is more pathetic than sympathetic. I wonder how he managed to convince his ex to come see his performance. Isn't she also competing, just in the women's version of the competition? I thought that was the justification given last episode.
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Don't want to quote a giant spoiler block but while I plausibly see it both ways (and both are equally good) what darth walrus said is pretty close to what I took away from today
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This fandom is bizarre. Apparently I'm "projecting" by suggesting that Yuri wasn't aware of his own sexuality at the beginning of the show. Did everyone else forget that he said that he hadn't ever experienced passionate love before? Have a costume reference.
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Okuyasu Nijimura posted:Parts of the fandom still insist that yuuri/victor isn't really happening/ going to happen and I wonder if they just want something to kvetch about for the next few years because everyone loving loves something as ridiculous as a ship war Really? Her's a post that goes into great detail as to how the scene was set up and clearly written as a kiss, despite the lack of an onscreen lip-lock.
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Okuyasu Nijimura posted:Parts of the fandom still insist that yuuri/victor isn't really happening/ going to happen and I wonder if they just want something to kvetch about for the next few years because everyone loving loves something as ridiculous as a ship war between that and Victor being abusive i think these people are just idiots tbh
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Nov 17, 2016 03:01
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Maera Sior posted:Really? Her's a post that goes into great detail as to how the scene was set up and clearly written as a kiss, despite the lack of an onscreen lip-lock. this person does cool posts but god drat is their theme hosed up/unreadable on a desktop
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Nov 17, 2016 03:08
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There was a time when I doubted that this show would pull the trigger. I have never been more pleased to be wrong.
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Nov 17, 2016 03:09
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...Has there been a guy/guy kiss in an anime this popular before? I can think of a number of reasonably popular shows with open lesbians in them, but not gay men. Granted, that's partly selection bias on my part...
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Spiritus Nox posted:...Has there been a guy/guy kiss in an anime this popular before? I can think of a number of reasonably popular shows with open lesbians in them, but not gay men. Granted, that's partly selection bias on my part... No 6 and Shinsekai Yori both had gay kisses.
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I don't remember either of those being popular.
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Yeah, but is YOI popular? I have no idea how to judge these things.
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WE WERE BORN TO MAKE HISTORY Oh my god I am so happy. They loving did it. They actually did it. It wasn't baiting. It was real. Everything was set up so well, too, and they didn't let me down. What a great loving episode. The music was top notch and fleshing out the skaters and their motivations was fantastic. Really happy for Phichit, too. Honestly, Georgi is hilarious because to quote someone earlier in this thread, "Are the straights okay". gently caress. I'm buzzing. What an episode. It did so much right I can't even express it coherently right now.
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Maera Sior posted:Yeah, but is YOI popular? I have no idea how to judge these things. It's Crunchyroll's most watched anime in a bunch of US states, canadian provinces, and european countries, apparently, so somebody's watching it - I don't know if it's popular in the absolute sense, but enough people are talking about it that I would be surprised to discover it's this obscure niche thing.
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Spiritus Nox posted:It's Crunchyroll's most watched anime in a bunch of US states, canadian provinces, and european countries, apparently, so somebody's watching it - I don't know if it's popular in the absolute sense, but enough people are talking about it that I would be surprised to discover it's this obscure niche thing. I know that some series are more popular overseas than they are in Japan. I'm curious to know how many people are staying up to watch it/recording it in Japan since it does start so late, whereas it's pretty easily accessible in the rest of the world. We'll know for sure when the sales figures come out in a few months. I'm sure I'll be preordering it like everyone else. Anyone know how long it usually takes for a show to come out in R1?
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Maera Sior posted:I know that some series are more popular overseas than they are in Japan. I'm curious to know how many people are staying up to watch it/recording it in Japan since it does start so late, whereas it's pretty easily accessible in the rest of the world. We'll know for sure when the sales figures come out in a few months. well it'll depend on a bunch of factors but funimation seems to get shows out in around a year, since a lot of their recent releases are mid-2015 shows.
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It sucks we don't actually see their lips touching. I'm not a dummy saying they didn't kiss cause that's clearly what happened and even if we don't see it exactly, the intent is clear and it's great and I cried a little bit. It's still pretty lame they felt the need to hide the moment from the viewers.
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Hocus Pocus posted:There was a time when I doubted that this show would pull the trigger. I have never been more pleased to be wrong. same, I'm surprised and happy that I was wrong at the same time. I'm also not sure how popular it is in Japan proper thanks to its weird time, but I hope it is at least decently doing well. It's a good rear end anime even without the 'politics' and all of representation and deserves to get tons of praise both for finally moving beyond queerbaiting and for just being a genuinely good rear end fuckin show.
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Allarion posted:It's time to make history! Join us if you haven't seen the episode, or wanna rewatch it!
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I like georgi as a character because he's pretty transparently comic relief and relatively complex/enjoyable comic relief at that he should spend some time in the e/n breakup thread though
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Mazreal posted:It sucks we don't actually see their lips touching. I'm not a dummy saying they didn't kiss cause that's clearly what happened and even if we don't see it exactly, the intent is clear and it's great and I cried a little bit. It's still pretty lame they felt the need to hide the moment from the viewers. It was probably less that they "felt the need" and more that they actually literally needed to. I remember reading somewhere that the show barely passed Japanese censorship laws. (This is also my guess as to why it airs in the early morning in Japan despite not being that risque.)
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Nov 17, 2016 05:09
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Georgi is a sack of poo poo tbh, he's basically passive-aggressively harassing his ex via his skating routine. There's nothing really sympathetic about his arc. From his previous routine to today's routine, it felt like "I am an evil witch who curses you!!" --> "Oh no, I'm so sorry for cursing you! Please pity me and love me and I'll lift the curse", which is like... emotional manipulation 101. Of course, she's having none of it and walked out (YEAAAAH that was also a lowkey satisfying moment in the episode). Also, I'm please as punch someone remembered my "are the straights okay" quip.
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hopeandjoy posted:It was probably less that they "felt the need" and more that they actually literally needed to. Most anime aside from children's stuff airs at odd hours, and censorship laws have only resulted in placing shadows over violence and cigs.
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hopeandjoy posted:
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hopeandjoy posted:I remember reading somewhere that the show barely passed Japanese censorship laws. (This is also my guess as to why it airs in the early morning in Japan despite not being that risque.) That sounds like hogwash. I bet it's more that they wanted to tease the poo poo out of us. "Tune in next week and maybe we'll let you see them lock lips without something blocking the view!"
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I'll take you all's word for it then. I'm not too familiar with watching anime outside of legal streaming and DVDs. At the very least, there seems to be a decent amount of fan artists making art. But it does feel a little less all over the place than Free did when it was airing. That might because Free had a bigger marketing push behind it though.
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"episode 7" was trending in Japan on twitter today, so I'm pretty sure the show is doing well.
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Oh, so i just noticed that the credits sequence is social media posts and they have comments by some of the characters. Neato!
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