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mcmagic posted:Call Schumer and tell him we will not accept collaboration. You may be better off calling your own state's Senator(s) if you don't live in New York, if either (or both) is a Democrat. Similarly, if you happen to live in South Carolina, call Lindsey Graham's office and let them know that you support Graham's push to investigate Russian interference and his stated desire to keep the filibuster unchanged.
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Grouchio posted:US Director of National Intelligence James Clapper has resigned. If I failed to discover that the Russians had directly caused the election our new president until after the election and knew that one of my successors was a literal Russian plant, I'd resign too.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:If I failed to discover that the Russians had directly caused the election our new president until after the election and knew that one of my successors was a literal Russian plant, I'd resign too. same
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:A 75% majority in the Senate can pass a new Constitutional amendment.
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Harrow posted:This assumes a 38 fully Republican-run states as well, and while we're close to that, it's not guaranteed after 2018. There are some retiring or term-limited Republican incumbents up for reelection in winnable states, like Maine and Nevada, and most of the Democratic incumbents are in states like New York and Hawaii where they're not going anywhere. Other Republicans are up for reelection in states that Clinton won decisively, like Vermont, Massachusetts, Maryland, and Illinois. Obviously Democrats actually doing something in an off-year isn't something we've seen recently, but I'd chalk that up to the DNC's total neglect of anything other than national politics, and it sounds like both Keith Ellison and Howard Dean know better. And who will stop them? They own the House and the Presidency. Face it, we are doomed to die under a conservative government that tries to use yesterdays answers for today's problems until it all comes crashing down into anarchy.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:If I failed to discover that the Russians had directly caused the election our new president until after the election and knew that one of my successors was a literal Russian plant, I'd resign too. 
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Covok posted:And who will stop them? They own the House and the Presidency. FactsAreUseless posted:If the Republicans get 75 Senate seats that will vote together on amendments, they can do what they like. I will concede. Wait, hold up, because unless every civics class I ever took is wrong, the state legislatures must ratify an amendment for it to become an actual amendment. Congress can only propose it. Is there some loophole that lets a 75-seat Senate majority bypass the ratification process that I can't seem to turn up by googling? Harrow fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Nov 17, 2016 |
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Covok posted:And who will stop them? They own the House and the Presidency. I think the pendulum will swing back in a few years but there will be a lot of suffering in that time and it will probably not swing back as far as it should because of the Democrat's incompetence.
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mcmagic posted:I think the pendulum will swing back in a few years but there will be a lot of suffering in that time and it will probably not swing back as far as it should because of the Democrat's incompetence. You hope too much. Fact is, I honestly believe we're on the build-up to the third world war. Nationalism rising in the western world has preceded the other two, I honestly think we may be at the start of another.
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mcmagic posted:I think the pendulum will swing back in a few years but there will be a lot of suffering in that time and it will probably not swing back as far as it should because of the Democrat's incompetence. Which is why we all need to be involved in the purification of the party.
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Someone going to tell me how the Republicans will magically go from 52 to 75 senators?
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Crowsbeak posted:Which is why we all need to be involved in the purification of the party. That doesn't sound sinister at all.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Someone going to tell me how the Republicans will magically go from 52 to 75 senators? Because there is no God.
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Guys what's the democrat equivalent of the shrieking sphere of pure white rage
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Harrow posted:Wait, hold up, because unless every civics class I ever took is wrong, the state legislatures must ratify an amendment for it to become an actual amendment. Congress can only propose it. Is there some loophole that lets a 75-seat Senate majority bypass the ratification process that I can't seem to turn up by googling? Edit: I think. I just skimmed a thing.
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BarbarianElephant posted:That doesn't sound sinister at all. Well it is sinister if your name is Rahm Emmanuel, or Cuomo.
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Covok posted:You hope too much. It is somewhat interesting that while Ukraine has been getting invaded and robbed, multiple NATO countries have had nationalist political uprisings against trade and immigration in the past few years.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Guys what's the democrat equivalent of the shrieking sphere of pure white rage Blubbering string of clutched pearls?
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Guys what's the democrat equivalent of the shrieking sphere of pure white rage The posting sphere of pure black despair
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Grouchio posted:US Director of National Intelligence James Clapper has resigned. Don't blame him one bit. Trump clearly isn't interested in seeking out information. He's going to be meeting with a foreign head of state without even a State Department briefing. Why the gently caress would you want to stick around if it meant having to fight just for the chance to be ignored?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Someone going to tell me how the Republicans will magically go from 52 to 75 senators?
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Talk about forming a new left party or whatever is dumb. If the left devours itself in the short term, the resulting Republican entrenchment is gonna need a new government to excise, not a new party
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Harrow posted:Wait, hold up, because unless every civics class I ever took is wrong, the state legislatures must ratify an amendment for it to become an actual amendment. Congress can only propose it. Is there some loophole that lets a 75-seat Senate majority bypass the ratification process that I can't seem to turn up by googling?
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:Talk about forming a new left party or whatever is dumb. If the left devours itself in the short term, the resulting Republican entrenchment is gonna need a new government to excise, not a new party The new party would just end up as "Democrats, but a bit more left and obsessed with political purity to the point of futility."
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:Talk about forming a new left party or whatever is dumb. If the left devours itself in the short term, the resulting Republican entrenchment is gonna need a new government to excise, not a new party Sounds like the same wackadoos that formed the ultra small echo chamber at the democratic national convention, so I wouldn't worry about them
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FactsAreUseless posted:Yeah, I looked it up and the 75 percent thing is nonsense. It's two-thirds of both chambers, ratified by 75 percent of the states. Okay, that's what I thought. And Covok, my dude, the Republicans are not going to have complete control of 38 states, even after 2018. If they do, it'd be because the Democratic Party full-on ceased to be, and even if it looks like the party's in shambles, it isn't going to just evaporate. Enough of the Republican governors up for reelection or leaving office due to term limits are in very winnable states. The Democrats haven't always been useless at the state level and, with the coming change in leadership, they aren't necessarily going to continue to be. Both of the most likely candidates for DNC chair know what's up when it comes to building grassroots and actually giving a poo poo about local- and state-level elections. It isn't over yet. Basically, it is amazingly unlikely that any constitutional amendments will be passed any time soon.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:Talk about forming a new left party or whatever is dumb. If the left devours itself in the short term, the resulting Republican entrenchment is gonna need a new government to excise, not a new party Maybe this would be true if political power wasn't so overwhelmingly in favor of rich folk. But unfortunately they are he only people left with a voice in our country.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:Talk about forming a new left party or whatever is dumb. If the left devours itself in the short term, the resulting Republican entrenchment is gonna need a new government to excise, not a new party Yes you have to work within the Democratic party system.
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3/4ths of the states could get together and rewrite the Constitution from the ground up, if they felt like it, and Congress couldn't do poo poo. Would never happen and could lead to the dissolution of the union, but it would be legal.
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BarbarianElephant posted:The new party would just end up as "Democrats, but a bit more left and obsessed with political purity to the point of futility." Except we would actually be a party of the average American, and not the Uber rich fucks that ruin everything.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Guys what's the democrat equivalent of the shrieking sphere of pure white rage Curling up into a fetal position on the floor of a swank apartment while crying about deplorables, the media, polling, 'the system' and berniebros.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Except we would actually be a party of the average American, and not the Uber rich fucks that ruin everything. Except that's a load of poo poo, it'd be basically the Greens who have never had to compromise on any issues because they are politically powerless and irrelevant and they get the vote of a bunch of purity voters from now until forever. If they actually compromised and had power they'd become the democrats in half a day.
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Kilroy posted:3/4ths of the states could get together and rewrite the Constitution from the ground up, if they felt like it, and Congress couldn't do poo poo. Would never happen and could lead to the dissolution of the union, but it would be legal. At this point, anything legal would just be met with the rest rolling over and taking it.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Guys what's the democrat equivalent of the shrieking sphere of pure white rage i refuse to believe there aren't any mirrors in your house
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XyrlocShammypants posted:Except that's a load of poo poo, it'd be basically the Greens who have never had to compromise on any issues because they are politically powerless and irrelevant and they get the vote of a bunch of purity voters from now until forever. If they actually compromised and had power they'd become the democrats in half a day. The Democrats but caring about global warming a bit more.
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BarbarianElephant posted:The Democrats but caring about global warming a bit more. That'd be problematic because if you're not giving equal time to every issue such as the economy or minority identity issues or whatever pet issue you have then you're "failing your constituents and the country" (see: the other thread)
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XyrlocShammypants posted:Except that's a load of poo poo, it'd be basically the Greens who have never had to compromise on any issues because they are politically powerless and irrelevant and they get the vote of a bunch of purity voters from now until forever. If they actually compromised and had power they'd become the democrats in half a day. Oh wow that was a quick meltdown Just to be sure: you don't think rich people having more political power than the average American is one of the problems of the Democratic Party is facing?
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Xand_Man posted:Rage is only one of many emotions I am experiencing at this time Same, but with panic.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:Talk about forming a new left party or whatever is dumb. If the left devours itself in the short term, the resulting Republican entrenchment is gonna need a new government to excise, not a new party New left party? Is there a party on the left somewhere we haven't been told about? XyrlocShammypants posted:Except that's a load of poo poo, it'd be basically the Greens who have never had to compromise on any issues because they are politically powerless and irrelevant and they get the vote of a bunch of purity voters from now until forever. If they actually compromised and had power they'd become the democrats in half a day. this but ironically
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