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Fulchrum posted:The incoming DNC chairperson is a Muslim. The anti-islam stuff alone is a deal breaker on getting ahead. It'd be like if a raging antisemite had been up for the position this cycle. The people who give a poo poo voted for a man recorded on video bragging about performing sexual assault, theyre not voting democrat, the Democrats need the millions of people who showed up to vote for a Black man named Barrack Hussein Obama.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:its the most courageous things the dems have done in 50 years and almost makes it seem like they have a spine
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Hey dummies, if you're seriously thinking about running a celebrity for president then Hollywood stars are dead on arrival. People loving hate Hollywood stars and their limousine liberal bullshit. If you want a presidential celebrity who can appeal to the working class, then run an MMA fighter. Run Jeff Monson.  Born in St. Paul, and he could kick Donald Trump's rear end no contest.  He's our fuckin' guy.
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I can see the ad now. A worker is being brow-beaten by their rear end in a top hat boss, who appears vaguely Trump-like. Suddenly Jeff Monson bursts through the wall like the Kool-Aid Man and puts the boss in a wicked submission hold. "THESE PEOPLE DESERVE $15 AN HOUR!!! GIVE THEM ALL A RAISE & SAY UNCLE!!!" "Uncle! Uncle! UNCLE!!!  "
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he moved to russia and praised putin a bunch and became a russian citizen
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:he moved to russia and praised putin a bunch and became a russian citizen Oh no. A Presidential candidate with close ties to Russia & Putin?  I dunno just how much in bed he is with Putin, because he's still a member of the IWW, and he wants to join the Russian Communist Party. Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 11:00 on Nov 17, 2016 |
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I wonder how hard the dems could test the "lol nothing matters" hypothesis I wonder how much November 4th will suck when we realize it only works for trump
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otoh it will be really really really easy to run a young, invigorating person against an obese grandpa. It'll be Clinton 92 with all the jogging and poo poo vs a saggy fatass who eats like a frat boy and gets winded from long plane flights
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theflyingexecutive posted:I wonder how hard the dems could test the "lol nothing matters" hypothesis Obsession with optics and image control are why half the country doesn't vote. Trump is not a unique figure who could only not have "reality" apply to him. The fact is that the social paradigm has shifted massively from the point decades ago, where respectability & decorum were the most important elements of public life. Being too cowardly to take a risk on figures that would actually resonate with the Democratic base, is why they lost the easiest election in history to the most hated presidential candidate ever. The presidential candidate doesn't have to be a graffiti-spraying MMA anarchist, but it sure as Hell couldn't hurt any more than running a buttoned down upper class ghoul. theflyingexecutive posted:otoh it will be really really really easy to run a young, invigorating person against an obese grandpa. It'll be Clinton 92 with all the jogging and poo poo vs a saggy fatass who eats like a frat boy and gets winded from long plane flights We don't really need an American Trudeau. Americans are fat and unhealthy. They'll relate more to a slob, or to the buffed out ring warriors they idolize. Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 11:16 on Nov 17, 2016 |
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Vox Nihili posted:Do you even know a single thing about Duckworth? I'm serious. I know she won't stand up for our veterans.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Hey dummies, if you're seriously thinking about running a celebrity for president then Hollywood stars are dead on arrival. People loving hate Hollywood stars and their limousine liberal bullshit. Glorious hero of the people's republic
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The Nastier Nate posted:I know she won't stand up for our veterans. I would laugh, but I remember what Saxby Chambliss did to Max Cleland in the GA Senate race--a man who lost both his legs and an arm diving on a grenade to save his squadmates. I would not put it past Trump to turn Tammy Duckworth into a military-hating coward. And is Ellison official? I thought that was just a Bernie "sign this petition" thing.
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Alter Ego posted:I would laugh, but I remember what Saxby Chambliss did to Max Cleland in the GA Senate race--a man who lost both his legs and an arm diving on a grenade to save his squadmates. I would not put it past Trump to turn Tammy Duckworth into a military-hating coward. I imagine nothing is official until the election, or at least until Donna Brazil steps down and is replaced by Ellison in the interim.
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Larry Parrish posted:I assure you our three largest cities are anything but conservationist when it comes to water It's not the 10% of urban water use that's the problem 
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What's wrong with President Franken?
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FCKGW posted:What's wrong with President Franken? Franken 2020: Maybe There's, Uh...Some Pretzels In The--In The Bar Car. (Disclaimer: I love this movie and I love Al Franken, but I cannot see him on television without thinking of that line.) Fritz Coldcockin has issued a correction as of 18:37 on Nov 17, 2016 |
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Your next nominee He's already pulling similar numbers to a Hillary rally so he's set
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Alter Ego posted:And is Ellison official? I thought that was just a Bernie "sign this petition" thing. He's officially running for the position, yea https://keithfordnc.org/
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I am genuinely scared that the Dems are just gonna run this further into the ground until we hit the Fourth Reich.
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Alter Ego posted:I would laugh, but I remember what Saxby Chambliss did to Max Cleland in the GA Senate race--a man who lost both his legs and an arm diving on a grenade to save his squadmates. I would not put it past Trump to turn Tammy Duckworth into a military-hating coward. All she needs to do in response is wave her prosthetics at the cameras and say "How do you think I got these, you orange motherfucker?"
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Pollyanna posted:I am genuinely scared that the Dems are just gonna run this further into the ground until we hit the Fourth Reich. Well, we'd have to get a fascist in office for that, so it won't happen for a little while at least
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NumberLast posted:Well, we'd have to get a fascist in office for that, so it won't happen for a little while at least ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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No one seems to agree on the real reason for what happened this cycle. Only thing I can see is that no one loving showed up. 54% participation in a Presidential year is abysmal. That still doesn't explain the multitude of state polling in places like Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Florida that consistently showed Hillary ahead.
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Pollyanna posted:ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Trump is a fascist like Bernie is a socialist: he's not
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Well What Now posted:All she needs to do in response is wave her prosthetics at the cameras and say "How do you think I got these, you orange motherfucker?" Obviously she cut them off herself in anticipation of a Presidential run in 2020, where she would position herself as a war hero.* *a thing that many people will believe without question
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Hey dummies, if you're seriously thinking about running a celebrity for president then Hollywood stars are dead on arrival. People loving hate Hollywood stars and their limousine liberal bullshit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvtJrjcl4vs&t=165s 02:45 listen to the fuckin cheers when the crowd realizes it's the soviet anthem and not the federation one
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Alter Ego posted:No one seems to agree on the real reason for what happened this cycle. You need to have something to vote for, not something to vote against. Not many people were very excited for Hillary in key areas. As far as the polls, I think people were just embarrassed to admit they were voting Trump.
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FCKGW posted:As far as the polls, I think people were just embarrassed to admit they were voting Trump. Was it this or was it just that his people turned out and Hillary's didn't? Again, 54% turnout is loving godawful, and low turnout pretty much ensures Republicans win every time. It would be more comforting, somehow, to know that "bigger turnout = better for Democrats" still holds true. If it is the other thing, then how does this not render state polling useless from here on out? No one will trust it, period.
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Alter Ego posted:Was it this or was it just that his people turned out and Hillary's didn't? Again, 54% turnout is loving godawful, and low turnout pretty much ensures Republicans win every time. after this election i think it is safe to say that nobody should trust the polls ever again regardless tbh
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Alter Ego posted:No one seems to agree on the real reason for what happened this cycle. I got really pissed off when listening to the 538 podcast because they're so insistent that it was just typical polling error, if being off by 5-6 points in several key states is really typical polling error then polls aren't very useful anymore.
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Raw votes are up vs 2012 and there's still like 3.5 million votes left in California. It wasn't a turnout thing. Basically the polling error in the states is attributed to a late break in undecideds going Trump. It's probably a combination of a few things: 1) Undecideds were always embarrassed Trump voters or more likely to break Trump (white males) 2) A bunch of Republican Johnson voters came home (less than 5% third party vote in swing states) 3) Something happened late in the race to convince people to go Trump (combination of Trump shutting the gently caress up and Comey stuff) And then it's a difference of polling missing a late shift / perhaps missing the electorate makeup
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Alter Ego posted:I would laugh, but I remember what Saxby Chambliss did to Max Cleland in the GA Senate race--a man who lost both his legs and an arm diving on a grenade to save his squadmates. I would not put it past Trump to turn Tammy Duckworth into a military-hating coward. They did it to John Kerry, they'll do it to anyone.
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I suspect from now on, any kind of campaign ending "grab by them pussy" caliber oppo drops from now will be less than a week before election day. Trump managed to not say anything too loving dumb for at least a solid week before the election and that helped alot of on-the-fence republicans come around to him.
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jackofarcades posted:Raw votes are up vs 2012 and there's still like 3.5 million votes left in California. It wasn't a turnout thing. It's kind of crazy to claim it wasn't a turnout thing because one area that you already had locked up voted for you even more overwhelmingly than they did in the past, while you lost regions that were formerly safe because the number of people willing to vote for you demonstrably fell. That's 100% a turnout thing, and all that running up the score in California accomplishes is giving lazy pundits fuel for quadrennial "abolish the electoral college" thinkpieces and making your base on the coast look out of touch with the parts of the country where support has collapsed.
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LGD posted:It's kind of crazy to claim it wasn't a turnout thing because one area that you already had locked up voted for you even more overwhelmingly than they did in the past, while you lost regions that were formerly safe because the number of people willing to vote for you demonstrably fell. That's 100% a turnout thing, and all that running up the score in California accomplishes is giving lazy pundits fuel for quadrennial "abolish the electoral college" thinkpieces and making your base on the coast look out of touch with the parts of the country where support has collapsed. Yeah. It gives me hope that maybe a candidate not named Hillary Clinton who runs even a semi-competent campaign could beat Trump in 2020. Seriously, for the entire political season, I kept thinking "We nominated the ONE person in the world who could gently caress this up somehow."
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devtesla posted:He's officially running for the position, yea https://keithfordnc.org/ If you put your name on the petition it takes you to a page to contribute money. I get that obtaining any political office (whether in government or not) is expensive, but I would appreciate a breakdown of what the money would be used for.
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The Nastier Nate posted:I suspect from now on, any kind of campaign ending "grab by them pussy" caliber oppo drops from now will be less than a week before election day. I doubt this would matter. I think the reality is that no one voting GOP actually cared about assaulting women like that. They embrace that vulgarity and relate to it.
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Sylink posted:I doubt this would matter. I think the reality is that no one voting GOP actually cared about assaulting women like that. They embrace that vulgarity and relate to it. Also as trashy as Trump was for bringing in Bill's sexual assault accusers in the wake of it (because Trump is not the person to attack anyone on this poo poo), it's possible that it worked in making it clear that Clinton isn't such a person either.
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Homework Explainer posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvtJrjcl4vs&t=165s Lol at the fuckin vein on Putin's head about to rupture
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