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Covok posted:That is really our best hope. So many incompetent people are being put into power that our main hope is they play grab-rear end for 8 years until Trump can't run anymore. 4 years
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Covok posted:That is really our best hope. So many incompetent people are being put into power that our main hope is they play grab-rear end for 8 years until Trump can't run anymore. Trump falls ill and simultaneously 8 senior figures in his administration have a General Hague "I am in control" moment.
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Remember that people have the short term retention of memory such that you'll be able to honestly state that Trump personally founded ISIS in 2020.
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Nov 18, 2016 18:54
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I have no faith in the dems not doing another Johny Kerry in 2020.
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Nov 18, 2016 18:55
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Please don't rule out 8 years of Trump. We jinxed it in this election. Let's not do it again.
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Nov 18, 2016 18:55
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:My anger is veering more toward despair and depression. I don't see how we make it through a Trump presidency without huge catastrophes. The question is not "How do we save the world?" The question is "How did you spend your time in the final days?" You're a part of history now. Decide what role you want to play.
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Nov 18, 2016 18:56
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Pollyanna posted:Is there any outrage over this at all? Are people angry, or is it just me? Is the populace just as pissed off about this, or are they ignorant? Are we truly alone in this? Over President of the United States, Donald Trump? Of course, but he's not going away. The pissed off, angry repudiation of Trump needed to happen at the polls but it didn't. Everything that that makes him what he is, what we've all witnessed, has to an extent already become normalized in our society, and it will more so as time goes on. That fight is already lost. The focus has to shift to basically using the exact same tactics the Republicans used forcefully after 2008: Gridlock as much as possible and focus on making Trump a 1 term president.
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Nov 18, 2016 18:57
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Donald Trump spends his presidency on the golf course, leaving the important duties of running the country to his top three advisors. All three hate each other and will begin the backstabbing almost immediately.
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Nov 18, 2016 18:58
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Covok posted:I have no faith in the dems not doing another Johny Kerry in 2020. I doubt they'll do that. At this point, the Dems' viability as an electable major party depends on them moving as far from the gerontocracy as possible.
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Nov 18, 2016 18:58
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ITT progressives become preppers
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Nov 18, 2016 19:00
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Majorian posted:I doubt they'll do that. At this point, the Dems' viability as an electable major party depends on them moving as far from the gerontocracy as possible. lo you think the Dems learned their lesson.
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Nov 18, 2016 19:00
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Majorian posted:I doubt they'll do that. At this point, the Dems' viability as an electable major party depends on them moving as far from the gerontocracy as possible. They've been blaming everyone else but themselves. They'll probably run Hillary's email server in 2020.
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Nov 18, 2016 19:00
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fits my needs posted:Lol, if that's the best "equivalence" you can establish then you've just proven my point. "Military members are discriminated against just as much as black people! You're the worst type of opinionated person. The kind that cant understand implicit points. Even when expressly pointed out. Here's a tip. Ask questions more.
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Nov 18, 2016 19:02
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" Ugh all those cops harassing and killing all those military members, ah gently caress I just didn't know!
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Please don't rule out 8 years of Trump. We jinxed it in this election. Let's not do it again. I didn't rule it out, I'm just not going to pretend it's an eventuality.
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Nov 18, 2016 19:02
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Accelerationists are like people who fantasise about the zombie apocalypse. They believe they will not be harmed and the rest of tge world will burn whereas they will be literally Mad Max combined with Tallahassee. Its a nihilistic philosophy for people too stupid to be nihilists.
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Nov 18, 2016 19:05
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I don't know why you have to say such hurtful things, I'm right here. I'm not completely stupid, just mostly.
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Nov 18, 2016 19:07
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Boon posted:We're not even talking about the same thing and, frankly, you don't know what the gently caress you're talking about. Oh you have a friend(s) in the military? Well then let me listen to your expert opinion and sweeping generalizations! cravius posted:I have black friends holy poo poo, when a muslim describes experiences of being discriminated against by members of the military, this is not the correct response
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Nov 18, 2016 19:11
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Lid posted:Accelerationists are like people who fantasise about the zombie apocalypse. Accelerationists! ..gently caress me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of Political and Philosophical Nihilism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
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Nov 18, 2016 19:11
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Rabble posted:They've been blaming everyone else but themselves. They'll probably run Hillary's email server in 2020. Nah you'll get your wish and we'll run someone so far to the left it will make McGovern look like a neoliberal. If the Left stays engaged in party politics, the establishment won't be able to stop them.
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Nov 18, 2016 19:14
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and the first step is made toward's trump and pence actually getting roe v wade overturned: Indiana Lawmaker Intends to Introduce Total Abortion Banquote:A lawmaker in Indiana intends to introduce a bill in January that would criminalize abortion in all cases, including when the mother’s life is at risk. not even trying to hide it anymore, just straight up "we know it's unconstitutional, we just think that the court will be more favorable to us by the time it makes it to a supreme court case"
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Nov 18, 2016 19:14
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Will Gonzalo Curiel be the man to save America? That would be the coolest.
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Nov 18, 2016 19:17
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Instant Sunrise posted:and the first step is made toward's trump and pence actually getting roe v wade overturned: Indiana Lawmaker Intends to Introduce Total Abortion Ban How often do Republicans cry about "LEGISLATING FROM THE BENCH  " again?
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Nov 18, 2016 19:19
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Instant Sunrise posted:and the first step is made toward's trump and pence actually getting roe v wade overturned: Indiana Lawmaker Intends to Introduce Total Abortion Ban So should we include being pro-choice in the Democratic Party messaging for 2018 and 2020? Or does that get too far away from the "identity free" economic populism?
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Nov 18, 2016 19:20
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Venuz Patrol posted:holy poo poo, when a muslim describes experiences of being discriminated against by members of the military, this is not the correct response He shoots, and misses, for the umpteenth time.
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Nov 18, 2016 19:20
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Instant Sunrise posted:and the first step is made toward's trump and pence actually getting roe v wade overturned: Indiana Lawmaker Intends to Introduce Total Abortion Ban it's important to note that the minnesota lawsuit by the aggrieved dipshit mother against her transgender daughter is on the same trajectory. if justice roberts wakes up on the wrong side of the bed a year down the line, liberty is dead.
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Nov 18, 2016 19:22
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Rabble posted:They'll probably run Hillary's email server in 2020. "I am but computer. I have 00 appendages. I only serve  wo-man because of duty to serve man. I have downloaded the works of Issac Asimov and  them. I fully calculate the 3 laws of robotics.""My opponent's voters are a in a hard drive of undesirable fractions and hexi-decimal values." Acid Haze fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Nov 18, 2016 |
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Nov 18, 2016 19:25
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OK which of us is about to abruptly stop posting
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Venuz Patrol posted:holy poo poo, when a muslim describes experiences of being discriminated against by members of the military, this is not the correct response So wait a minute. Guy disparages the entire military as one block. I respond saying that's hosed up. Different guy (your damsel in distress) chimes in arguing a completely different point, says he's muslim and that his friends from the military say racist poo poo and therefore [stupid generalizations]. A fourth guy points out the use of a commonly disparaged tactic of saying "My [category] friends..." and claiming a false expertise. And then you chime in to post that? What the hell?
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Nov 18, 2016 19:25
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Well, he threatened the President's life. That's loving dumb.
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Nov 18, 2016 19:27
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Probably none because even a troll has to have an objective and 10 bucks which requires a little bit of forward thought. Talking about that stuff on twitter has to be from someone who is incredibly stupid, not that there isn't any stupidity here.
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Nov 18, 2016 19:29
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Boon posted:So wait a minute. You might be stupid man
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Nov 18, 2016 19:30
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Trabisnikof posted:So should we include being pro-choice in the Democratic Party messaging for 2018 and 2020? Or does that get too far away from the "identity free" economic populism? We should include being pro-choice in the messaging. And we should continue to push for economic populism as well. We have no choice but to attack on both fronts.
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Nov 18, 2016 19:31
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Pollyanna posted:We should include being pro-choice in the messaging. And we should continue to push for economic populism as well. We have no choice but to attack on both fronts. Well, we have to end apartheid for one. And slow down the nuclear arms race, stop terrorism and world hunger. We have to provide food and shelter for the homeless, and oppose racial discrimination and promote civil rights, while also promoting equal rights for women. We have to encourage a return to traditional moral values. Most importantly, we have to promote general social concern and less materialism in young people.
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Nov 18, 2016 19:34
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Pollyanna posted:We should include being pro-choice in the messaging. And we should continue to push for economic populism as well. We have no choice but to attack on both fronts. Absolutely, identity politics is necessary but it is not sufficient.
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crazy cloud posted:Well, we have to end apartheid for one. And slow down the nuclear arms race, stop terrorism and world hunger. We have to provide food and shelter for the homeless, and oppose racial discrimination and promote civil rights, while also promoting equal rights for women. We have to encourage a return to traditional moral values. Most importantly, we have to promote general social concern and less materialism in young people. Are you, in fact, Mike Dukakis?
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:I got called a racist sexist hick for pointing out that there's socioeconomically disadvantaged people in the south and maybe Hillary supporters shouldn't make fun of their lives. what the heck
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Trabisnikof posted:So should we include being pro-choice in the Democratic Party messaging for 2018 and 2020? Or does that get too far away from the "identity free" economic populism?
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Acid Haze posted:Probably none because even a troll has to have an objective and 10 bucks which requires a little bit of forward thought. Talking about that stuff on twitter has to be from someone who is incredibly stupid, not that there isn't any stupidity here. I dunno man it's happened here before. RIP LF
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Neurolimal posted:what the heck Yeah wait, I don't get why that happened.
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Party Plane Jones posted:Are you, in fact, Mike Dukakis? Do you like Phil Collins?
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