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Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


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Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005
My fear is that Andrew Cuomo will jump in and just like with Hillary, the field will be cleared for him.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Jim Webb: Memories of Saigon

burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...

Alter Ego posted:

My fear is that Andrew Cuomo will jump in and just like with Hillary, the field will be cleared for him.

Yeah, the first few days after the election are an okay sign that the Dems have at least noticed that totally zoning out SocDem/Bernie opposition is suicide for them, but there's still the threat that once the post-election feelings die down they'll revert and go "wait no actually the problem was Hillary just had some bad press, we just need a Hillary that has less history with the GOP".

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen

Alter Ego posted:

My fear is that Andrew Cuomo will jump in and just like with Hillary, the field will be cleared for him.

does anyone actually like him?

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Alter Ego posted:

My fear is that Andrew Cuomo will jump in and just like with Hillary, the field will be cleared for him.

he was the first Dem to lick trump boot. I will be so pissed if he runs

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Dude straight up dissolved the ethics committee he established when it started investigating him. If the GOP had a foot of oppo on Bernie, they'll have a Scrooge mcduck vault for cuomo

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
Cuomo is a piece of poo poo

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
he's possibly tied to bridgegate and he hosed over his own party in his own state

he's not going anywhere

Olga Gurlukovich
Nov 13, 2016

Al! posted:

after years of soul searching and bitter fights the dems nominate......... Michael bloomberg

:spooky: 2 real

Olga Gurlukovich
Nov 13, 2016

this thread is for wishful thinking only.


the dems are moving left guys!! its real its happening!

Pomplamoose
Jun 28, 2008

blamegame posted:

this thread is for wishful thinking only.


the dems are moving left guys!! its real its happening!

*Ron Paul laser gif*

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

logikv9 posted:

he's possibly tied to bridgegate and he hosed over his own party in his own state

he's not going anywhere

who cares about bridgegate? He has something on him so damning that he publicly shut down his own corruption squad before they could find it

MaxxBot
Oct 6, 2003

you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!

Well What Now posted:

does anyone actually like him?

Nope, that's why I'm not exactly afraid of that happening, he has no natural constituency.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
:toxx: Not Trump 2020 wins the general. Back in the saddle.

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
What about Jim Webb?

burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...

MaxxBot posted:

Nope, that's why I'm not exactly afraid of that happening, he has no natural constituency.

The Dems ran into this same problem with one of their major candidates not long ago, one Hillary Rodham Clinton, so don't get your hopes too high yet.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Eifert Posting posted:

:toxx: Not Trump 2020 wins the general. Back in the saddle.

lol at u trusting:
1. American voters
2. Democratic Party
3. This site existing in 2020

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer

theflyingexecutive posted:

lol at u trusting:
1. American voters
2. Democratic Party
3. This site existing in 2020

Dems had poo poo for turnout. I know being woe is me is fashionable right now, but I have no doubt that four years of that will shake them out of their complacency.

And if the site is gone, hey, I've lost nothing.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Powercrazy posted:

At least he admitted it unlike a certain other Democratic Candidate.

Hey Vince survived that. People to support: Webb, Tulsi, Tammi, Mark my wonderful governor. Cuomo will have less support then O'Malley.

Crowsbeak has issued a correction as of 03:08 on Nov 19, 2016

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan

KRock posted:

I just hope we get a competitive primary in 2020, with at least 8-9 candidates to choose from. The fact that we only had 5 candidates (2 of whom dropped out before Iowa) should have been an early warning sign as to what was to become of the Democrats this year.

It's easy to rip on O'Malley, but at least he threw his hat in the ring. That's more than I can say for several other Dems who could have launched credible bids this year, but were too cowardly to take on the Clinton machine.

So, let's get 8-9 candidates in the ring next time, with a truly impartial DNC, give them 10-12 debates/forums to make their case, and may the better candidate win.

The democrats had 2 candidates to choose from. O'Malley was running for vp/cabinet, and I don't know what Chaffee and Webb expected but it wasn't to be president.
I can't blame dems for not wanting to take on Clinton, she's been running for president for 16 years, and after 08 there was no room left for superdelegates or big money donors. Now that the Clinton house of cards collapsed, the dems are scrambling to keep their party together, 2020 president is on the back of their radar and its going to be end up a shitshow like the 2016 gop primary.

burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...

The Nastier Nate posted:

The democrats had 2 candidates to choose from. O'Malley was running for vp/cabinet, and I don't know what Chaffee and Webb expected but it wasn't to be president.
I can't blame dems for not wanting to take on Clinton, she's been running for president for 16 years, and after 08 there was no room left for superdelegates or big money donors. Now that the Clinton house of cards collapsed, the dems are scrambling to keep their party together, 2020 president is on the back of their radar and its going to be end up a shitshow like the 2016 gop primary.

Next Goon Project: get a Hoxhaist into the 2020 Democrat primary runnings, during the first debate unveils their plan to tear down Trump's Wall and use the bricks to build the People's Bunkers.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

remember when we all thought the donald would tear the gop apart? but it turns out he tore the dems apart?

Xtra Innings Lovin
Nov 11, 2016

Eifert Posting posted:

:toxx: Not Trump 2020 wins the general. Back in the saddle.

Getting in on this Toxx and don't even need a gang tag to do so. Last time ended poorly but next time will be different

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

FCKGW posted:

remember when we all thought the donald would tear the gop apart? but it turns out he tore the dems apart?

Don't count him out of tearing the GOP apart yet, he hasn't even taken office yet :unsmigghh:

burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...

FCKGW posted:

remember when we all thought the donald would tear the gop apart? but it turns out he tore the dems apart?

The real meltdown will be in 4 years when Donald has transformed the GOP into the European-American Nationalist-Socialist Workers Party, while Sanders has transformed the Dems into the All-Union Socialist party.

The media kept pushing the narrative of America being divided and polarized, wait until every election is literally a Nazi vs literally a Bolshevik.

burnishedfume has issued a correction as of 05:07 on Nov 19, 2016

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


Powercrazy posted:

Don't count him out of tearing the GOP apart yet, he hasn't even taken office yet :unsmigghh:

Hah, the GOP isn't gonna rip itself apart. It's got more power than it's had in almost 80 years, it's gonna rally and gently caress everyone over, with or without Trump.

KRock
Aug 13, 2007
College Slice

The Nastier Nate posted:

I can't blame dems for not wanting to take on Clinton, she's been running for president for 16 years, and after 08 there was no room left for superdelegates or big money donors.

It's odd, though. Clinton was arguably a weaker candidate this time around than she was in 2008, when a young, up-start senator out of Illinois decided to take her on. She's older than she was back then, and her 4 year stint as secretary of state did nothing but hang more scandals around her neck. Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, Sherrod Brown, Deval Patrick, and Kirsten Gillibrand all could have presented credible challenges to her this year, but opted not to for various reasons.

The Nastier Nate posted:

Now that the Clinton house of cards collapsed, the dems are scrambling to keep their party together, 2020 president is on the back of their radar and its going to be end up a shitshow like the 2016 gop primary.

Well, I hope so, as that seemingly worked out pretty well for the GOP.

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen
the whole Tea Party movement may have started off as astroturfy as a lovely football field but it turns out people don't care, long as the astroturf is broadly aligned with what they want

the Dems should totally learn that lesson

jackofarcades
Sep 2, 2011

Okay, I'll admit it took me a bit to get into it... But I think I kinda love this!! I'm Spider-Man!! I'm actually Spider-Man!! HA!
I have a hard time envisioning anyone actually beating Clinton in the 2016 primaries, and I'm not even talking about rigging or clearing the field or anything.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

It's hard to imagine a world where history didn't happen, and the Clintons hadn't spent decades filling Democratic leadership with their cronies & cultivating a sycophantic media.

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Pomplamoose
Jun 28, 2008

Well What Now posted:

the whole Tea Party movement may have started off as astroturfy as a lovely football field but it turns out people don't care, long as the astroturf is broadly aligned with what they want

the Dems should totally learn that lesson

We need George Soros now more than ever.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
i'm 28% sure that george soros will be investigated for *something* in the next four years and might not be allowed into the US if he ever left

FRINGE
May 23, 2003
title stolen for lf posting

Alter Ego posted:

My fear is that Andrew Cuomo will jump in and just like with Hillary, the field will be cleared for him.
Without the CRE it wont work.

NumberLast
Jun 7, 2014

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's hard to imagine a world where history didn't happen, and the Clintons hadn't spent decades filling Democratic leadership with their cronies & cultivating a sycophantic media.

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This is only primary salt if you're jonesing for primary salt :v:

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
himalayan pink primary salt

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

NumberLast posted:

This is only primary salt if you're jonesing for primary salt :v:

yeah i was really on the fence about this one. it's just a sixer anyway

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen
Be the salt you want to see in the forums.

NumberLast
Jun 7, 2014

Al! posted:

himalayan pink primary salt

Delicious.

logikv9 posted:

yeah i was really on the fence about this one. it's just a sixer anyway

lol fair

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Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen

logikv9 posted:

yeah i was really on the fence about this one. it's just a sixer anyway

he probably deserves it for a bunch of minor posts that aren't probatable on their own but add up over time, don't worry about it

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