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Turdfuzz posted:jfc why am i not dead what is taking trump so loving long god this is boring He has to come for the Mexicans, Blacks, and LGBTs first.
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Schnorkles posted:There is presumably a case where the republicans will go nuclear, but it's probably not over Jeff Sessions. i wonder what the internal struggle is between like the more "moderate" Rs who look at things longer term than the new tea party/freedom caucus/trumpist types who want to burn it all down and don't care the precedent it would set to go nuclear on everything
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showbiz_liz posted:So uh my NGO provides criminal legal aid to people in predominantly Muslim countries including Palestine and Afghanistan, and a big chunk of our funding comes from the US State Dept lol you better hope Big Boss starts rescuing Muslims for you, cause the State Department is gonna start telling you to rig em up with bombs
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DrProsek posted:He has to come for the Mexicans, Blacks, and LGBT showbiz_liz posted:So uh my NGO provides criminal legal aid to people in predominantly Muslim countries including Palestine and Afghanistan, and a big chunk of our funding comes from the US State Dept you might wanna find a sugar daddy
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Karl Sharks posted:i wonder what the internal struggle is between like the more "moderate" Rs who look at things longer term than the new tea party/freedom caucus/trumpist types who want to burn it all down and don't care the precedent it would set to go nuclear on everything In the senate, probably not much of a debate at all. Even Ted Cruz isn't necessarily in favor of taking away the fillibuster to try and repeal something.
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Schnorkles posted:The r's could do any number of things to try and force through trump's confirmations re: the senate, but it requires them actually taking the steps. Right now the dems can just deny 60 and the R's can say "They're being so obstructionist!!" without taking any heat themselves. The democrats will probably not fight 99% of the executive branch appointment other than drag them thru the mud at the confirmation hearings. Scouts is a lost cause If I were the Dems I'd do everything possible to keep the filibuster to have some influence so we don't get super crazy poo poo like abolishing collective bargaining or repealing the department of education or eliminating capital gains taxes
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Karl Sharks posted:i wonder what the internal struggle is between like the more "moderate" Rs who look at things longer term than the new tea party/freedom caucus/trumpist types who want to burn it all down and don't care the precedent it would set to go nuclear on everything This is why we may still have a filibuster for legislative acts. ( not budget reconciliation or courts tho)
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Karl Sharks posted:i wonder what the internal struggle is between like the more "moderate" Rs who look at things longer term than the new tea party/freedom caucus/trumpist types who want to burn it all down and don't care the precedent it would set to go nuclear on everything We'll see Old Turtle's shell grow larger and larger until his face is continually obscured. 
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DrProsek posted:He has to come for the Mexicans, Blacks, and LGBTs first. you forgot the Muslims
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The fillibuster is not going anywhere for legislation. Whether or not there's rule changes for appointments is up in the air imo.
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Karl Sharks posted:i wonder what the internal struggle is between like the more "moderate" Rs who look at things longer term than the new tea party/freedom caucus/trumpist types who want to burn it all down and don't care the precedent it would set to go nuclear on everything Do things like "setting a precedent" even exist in federal politics anymore.
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The fact that the republicans unconstitutional refusal to appoint a SCOTUS judge worked for them is infuriating.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Do things like "setting a precedent" even exist in federal politics anymore. Yeah You don't have to fill vacant Supreme Court seats anymore . That's new.
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BonoMan posted:Oh speaking of strife in my company. Apparently some of the farther right folks have been screen shotting facebook posts by liberal employees and sending them to upper management screaming that it's hurting our company. lmao
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Covok posted:The fact that the republicans unconstitutional refusal to appoint a SCOTUS judge worked for them is infuriating. I'd actually forgotten about this until like 3 days after the election. it was an incredibly stupid move that somehow succeeded when no one thought it could. get ready for a 9-0 court yall not like it'll matter because in 2018 the Republicans are going to take enough state houses to just add like 30 amendments
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McConnell knows that touching the filibuster is a bad idea. Harry Reid will return one day to the floor, not as a senator but a civilian, and shove the rules without the filibuster up McConnell's rear end. If there's one thing McConnell fears, it's Harry Reid. Then again, I think we all should.
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euphronius posted:Yeah wonder who trump is going to appoint.
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two outcomes here 1) Dems dig in their heels and do everything they can to make trump's agenda fail, hold their ground in 2018 and retake wh in 2020 against the least popular president in history 2) Dems roll over, get wiped in 2018, run a milquetoast in 2020 and lose a blatantly stolen/hacked election, then retake in 2024 when the country has been so turbofucked that a soggy biscuit could win with a D next to their name
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Turdfuzz posted:jfc why am i not dead what is taking trump so loving long god this is boring https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKC21wDarBo
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mastershakeman posted:you forgot the Muslims His supporters are already coming for them so we still need to wait for them to finish up there before they start coming for the rest. (  I knew I forgot some major group Trump doesn't like)
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iospace posted:McConnell knows that touching the filibuster is a bad idea. Harry Reid will return one day to the floor, not as a senator but a civilian, and shove the rules without the filibuster up McConnell's rear end. the filibuster has the advantage of keeping anti-donor class stuff in check, and can prevent complete meltdown scenarios. they also now get to point to the democrats and call them obstructionists. they'll probably keep it.
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Schnorkles posted:wonder who trump is going to appoint. The youngest and hot test graduate of liberty university law school
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anime was right posted:the filibuster has the advantage of keeping anti-donor class stuff in check, and can prevent complete meltdown scenarios. they also now get to point to the democrats and call them obstructionists. they'll probably keep it. Repealing it also requires 50 republican senators to also say "Oh hey I'd like to limit my own individual power" and that's why it will always be a tall order for any party to get rid of it entirely. appointments are a bit different, but i think the current status quo is likely.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:two outcomes here 3) Republicans get enough state governments in 2018 to start passing constitutional amendments to the effect of "Outlaw the democratic party forever" and that's the end of the USA. GG.
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Inglonias posted:3) Republicans get enough state governments in 2018 to start passing constitutional amendments to the effect of "Outlaw the democratic party forever" and that's the end of the USA. GG. you're missing a key thing about constitutional amendments here that you should go look up
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Covok posted:The fact that the republicans unconstitutional refusal to appoint a SCOTUS judge worked for them is infuriating. it's actually fairly impressive and demonstrates something the GOP long ago learned: electorate doesn't gaf about political theater
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:two outcomes here 3) Republican supermajority overturns 22nd Amendment, a thousand years of darkness 4) Republican supermajority damages voting rights and gerrymandering to the point where even an overwhelmingly liberal electorate wouldn't be able to stop them 5) Trump orders a nuclear strike over a tweet and we all die 6) Trump orders a nuclear strike over a tweet and we get a military coup d'état 7) literally anything could happen at this point
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Schnorkles posted:you're missing a key thing about constitutional amendments here that you should go look up Is it this thing? quote:A proposed amendment becomes part of the Constitution as soon as it is ratified by three-fourths of the States (38 of 50 States). When the OFR verifies that it has received the required number of authenticated ratification documents, it drafts a formal proclamation for the Archivist to certify that the amendment is valid and has become part of the Constitution. This certification is published in the Federal Register and U.S. Statutes at Large and serves as official notice to the Congress and to the Nation that the amendment process has been completed.
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the folks who aren't very worried about the future know that this will be survivable for them, if morally objectionable. for those targeted, this is a life or death catastrophe.
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So all of my earlier cautious optimism is out the window, every waking moment and the Trump presidency becomes more horrifying, corrupt and non-sensical. It's going to be a very, very dark 4 years.  Is there any hope that Republican's come to their senses and realize that Trump is going to harm the country and the party for decades if they don't put a stop to him, drag him through investigation after investigation and block all of his nominees?
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:two outcomes here 3) Donald launches a nuke against another nuclear power, smug in the belief that no one would dare retaliate against him
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Ship yards? Yeah gently caress roads and the electric grid and poo poo, we're gonna build boats!
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showbiz_liz posted:3) Republican supermajority overturns 22nd Amendment, a thousand years of darkness 8) Republican supermajority damages voting rights/bans the Dems. Americans launch Protracted People's War.
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He's definitely on the mark about the 1930's.
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DrProsek posted:8) Republican supermajority damages voting rights/bans the Dems. Americans launch Protracted People's War. I can see a long-lasting Irish Troubles sort of situation happening tbh
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Economic nationalism Edit: damb u vs
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