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Ugleb
Nov 19, 2014

ASK ME ABOUT HOW SCOTLAND'S PROPOSED TRANS LEGISLATION IS DIVISIVE AS HELL BECAUSE IT IS SO SWEEPING THAT IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY ABUSED AT A TIME WHERE THE LACK OF SAFETY FOR WOMEN HAS BEEN SO GLARING
Yeah, you would think it's made for being sold as story modules with a cheapish boardgame intro box then just keep expanding out.

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LordAba
Oct 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Ugleb posted:

From what I have seen and heard of KD there is a game with lots of interesting potential that has had tons of thought go into it along with a very well sculpted line of minis to build the world with.

If someone else took some of the mechanics in the game and completely reskinned it, yeah it would be a very cool game. As it is it is a pretty bad game if you don't like "save or die" mechanics.

But again, Kingdom Death get praised for literally canceling an expansion because it would be too hard to do while Hawk Wargames gets blasted for not shipping fast enough.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Ugleb posted:

From what I have seen and heard of KD there is a game with lots of interesting potential that has had tons of thought go into it along with a very well sculpted line of minis to build the world with.
:stare:
It's literally Talisman.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


LordAba posted:

If someone else took some of the mechanics in the game and completely reskinned it, yeah it would be a very cool game. As it is it is a pretty bad game if you don't like "save or die" mechanics.

But again, Kingdom Death get praised for literally canceling an expansion because it would be too hard to do while Hawk Wargames gets blasted for not shipping fast enough.

Kickstarter people seem awful and beyond fickle. The first Shadows of Brimstone Kickstarter did insane numbers and FFP ended up giving way too much out free and ate a loss it sounds like so this time around they're being more conservative and people are pissed that they aren't getting enough free stuff.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

LordAba posted:

If someone else took some of the mechanics in the game and completely reskinned it, yeah it would be a very cool game. As it is it is a pretty bad game if you don't like "save or die" mechanics.

But again, Kingdom Death get praised for literally canceling an expansion because it would be too hard to do while Hawk Wargames gets blasted for not shipping fast enough.

Nerds are easily tricked by fetish art

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Improbable Lobster posted:

Nerds are easily tricked

That's better. Nerds with disposable income are the easiest targets.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

Ugleb posted:

From what I have seen and heard of KD there is a game with lots of interesting potential that has had tons of thought go into it along with a very well sculpted line of minis to build the world with.

Then it was attached to a crap load of really pervy stuff and sold as a huge box with an eye-watering price tag. It's a real shame that loads of people will probably never find out if it is actually good because they aren't sure if the pervy crap can be avoided or justify paying that much for something that may just be too drat creepy.

i'm gonna repost this so you know the tragic things you are missing out on by not contributing to this porny anime death boardgame

quote:

Monster Droppings The survivors find some monster droppings. They might be from the beast you are hunting. The event revealer must choose to either investigate or consume the droppings (choose only one). If the event revealer investigates, roll on the table and gain +1 understanding. D10 Event revealer - Investigate = 1- 3 You have no idea what feces this is, but it's sickening. Suffer -1 survival and roll again on the hunt event table before moving on the hunt board. / 4 - 6 The droppings tell a story. The survivors are on the right track. Continue on the hunt board normally. / 7 + You know these droppings well. You may skip the next hunt space. If the event revealer consumes, roll on the table and gain +1 courage. // d10 Event revealer - consume = 1 - 3 Bad idea. Gain -1 evasion token. / 4 - 6 It‘s repulsive. Replace your name with ‘Scat Man.’ Everyone in the settlement calls you by that name from now on. / 7 + There was something quite special about these feces. Gain + 1 speed and + 1 strength token until the end of the showdown. *INVESTIGATE*

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


That sure is a lot of rolling that doesn't seem super useful.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
At least none of those are "save or die." The game is overly fond of those since it's grim and dark. Aside from stuff like genital mutilation and armor that eventually turns you into a monster (also includes genital mutilation)

Ugleb
Nov 19, 2014

ASK ME ABOUT HOW SCOTLAND'S PROPOSED TRANS LEGISLATION IS DIVISIVE AS HELL BECAUSE IT IS SO SWEEPING THAT IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY ABUSED AT A TIME WHERE THE LACK OF SAFETY FOR WOMEN HAS BEEN SO GLARING

Nuns with Guns posted:

i'm gonna repost this so you know the tragic things you are missing out on by not contributing to this porny anime death boardgame

Tell me more of this tale the droppings weave!

But anyway, I just keep hearing how it is some compelling narrative experience that unfolds over many hours and isn't just about tits.

Anyone watch the lets play on Beasts of War? The guy running it is only slightly goth/emo and the titties are downplayed/carefully navigated around throughout. I actually want to see more and find out how far down the rabbithole they go.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
The art is really anime, and you get frequent mention of genitals or something, but it's more about "bad stuff happens and you lose" kinda struggle. It's dwarf fortress for the edgy grimdark kid crowd. Like you have to reprecussions of murder becoming the culture of your survivor group.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
Sounds like FATAL with less D100 charts

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Nuns with Guns posted:

quote:

Replace your name with ‘Scat Man.’ Everyone in the settlement calls you by that name from now on.
:allears:

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Call me a prude but I don't feel like genitals should ever be in my board games.

Dr. Phildo
Dec 8, 2003

Except the heaven had come so near,
So seemed to choose my door,The distance would not haunt me so

Soiled Meat
Is twister a board game cause umm

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


:lol: if playing a worker placement heavy economic game doesn't get you hard. My cube towers are giant phallus monuments to the free market.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Dr. Phildo posted:

Is twister a board game cause umm

Twister is a sex toy masquerading as an all ages game I think.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
The game itself I'd say is more about being brooding, dark, "the world hates you/people are poo poo" stuff like Genocyber with some wanking on the side. Too depressing for me.

Speaking of wanking miniatures, I can't afford to get the Made-to-Order diaznettes this evening. I think it's the apex of both sexy miniatures and Slaanesh design.

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

Len posted:

Twister is a sex toy masquerading as an all ages game I think.

yeah it's basically a drunken excuse to rub butts and crotches lol

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch
KD feels like someone read Berserk and really really missed the entire point of the extreme body horror/sexuality stuff in Berserk. Like, Berserk is a great comic, it's probably the closest a comic book (and I mean comics in general, not manga as a subset) will ever come to something like Moby Dick, but all the HR Giger style TnA in it is there for a specific reason. You're supposed to feel supremely uncomfortable when viewing it, it's there to communicate the brutal inhuman horrors of a world that's falling apart in the wake of an attack by demons crossed with the end of the Crusades and the black death. It's kind of like the nurses in Silent Hill, they're supposed to make you feel a little bit turned on but then also feel disgusted at yourself for feeling that way, a deliberate perversion and twisting of sexual tropes if you will.

Kingdom Death looks at all these things and what it takes away is "dark fantasy where people are desperately trying to survive against insurmountable odds is way cooler if WE GOT DEM TITTTTTTTAYYYYYYYYZZZZZZ!"

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo
I see from your description that you are unfamiliar with Kintaro Miura.

mike12345
Jul 14, 2008

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."





El Estrago Bonito posted:

KD feels like someone read Berserk and really really missed the entire point of the extreme body horror/sexuality stuff in Berserk. Like, Berserk is a great comic, it's probably the closest a comic book (and I mean comics in general, not manga as a subset) will ever come to something like Moby Dick, but all the HR Giger style TnA in it is there for a specific reason. You're supposed to feel supremely uncomfortable when viewing it, it's there to communicate the brutal inhuman horrors of a world that's falling apart in the wake of an attack by demons crossed with the end of the Crusades and the black death. It's kind of like the nurses in Silent Hill, they're supposed to make you feel a little bit turned on but then also feel disgusted at yourself for feeling that way, a deliberate perversion and twisting of sexual tropes if you will.

Kingdom Death looks at all these things and what it takes away is "dark fantasy where people are desperately trying to survive against insurmountable odds is way cooler if WE GOT DEM TITTTTTTTAYYYYYYYYZZZZZZ!"

I watched Berserk for the first time a couple weeks ago (the old anime, not the new one). How everything builds up to this one cataclysmic event, the whole character development, it still blows my mind. Really, I was blown away. (that's also saying something because artstyle-wise the anime isn't that great)

LordAba
Oct 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Guts/Griffith is the Team Edward/Team Jacob of the manga world.

Only with a poo poo ton more rape.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
This isn't mini-related but I looked up that awful recent Berserk anime and it's amazing how much better the blu-ray version is compared to the broadcast version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nDzg-F_09M

mike12345
Jul 14, 2008

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."





Improbable Lobster posted:

This isn't mini-related but I looked up that awful recent Berserk anime and it's amazing how much better the blu-ray version is compared to the broadcast version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nDzg-F_09M

what the hell

now I have to watch that garbage again

Wazzu
Feb 28, 2008

Are you sure I'm winning the Rumble? That does'nt seem right.....
Having played it, I'd say KD: Monster game feature a game with the best and worst of game design. I'd prefer to heavily house rule it before doing another campaign, and I'd probably thoroughly enjoy it. People aren't kidding about the save or die, it feels like you'd need to pass a number of those to finish the game- where randomness may have more power than player agency/decision making.

And yeah, it does have the best and worst, tonally it goes from grim darkness, to weird boner pills, stabbing a lion's balls off (then making an axe half out of those balls), poop eating, stuff like this.


But $400 is too much. It is possible it could cut into Shadows of Brimstone, because nerds have no idea how much money they'll need to spend to spend on KD, so budgeting can't really occur. All complaints about its pricing come from post kickstarter. Their kickstarter prices were actually great value, but so much now cost 4x as much.

Wazzu fucked around with this message at 09:32 on Nov 20, 2016

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


Len posted:

Twister is a sex toy masquerading as an all ages game I think.

JcDent posted:

The game itself I'd say is more about being brooding, dark, "the world hates you/people are poo poo" stuff like Genocyber with some wanking on the side. Too depressing for me.
Your Twister house rules must be off the loving chain

ZorajitZorajit
Sep 15, 2013

No static at all...
More Murphy's for Twister please

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~

Now you can own a piece of unspiration!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112055283914

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Fashionable Jorts posted:

I never understood the nerd obsession with having tits in all of their media. Like, masturbation is fine and great. Turning masturbation into a hobby that intersects with other hobbies is not fine and great.
It's anime, any and all anime.

El Estrago Bonito posted:

KD feels like someone read Berserk and really really missed the entire point of the extreme body horror/sexuality stuff in Berserk. Like, Berserk is a great comic, it's probably the closest a comic book (and I mean comics in general, not manga as a subset) will ever come to something like Moby Dick, but all the HR Giger style TnA in it is there for a specific reason. You're supposed to feel supremely uncomfortable when viewing it, it's there to communicate the brutal inhuman horrors of a world that's falling apart in the wake of an attack by demons crossed with the end of the Crusades and the black death. It's kind of like the nurses in Silent Hill, they're supposed to make you feel a little bit turned on but then also feel disgusted at yourself for feeling that way, a deliberate perversion and twisting of sexual tropes if you will.

Kingdom Death looks at all these things and what it takes away is "dark fantasy where people are desperately trying to survive against insurmountable odds is way cooler if WE GOT DEM TITTTTTTTAYYYYYYYYZZZZZZ!"
I like Berserk too, but drat son have you seen the drat thing? There is a fair share of Berserk that is really really obviously there for titillation by deeply unwell minds. Like have seen how any of the troll stuff is drawn?

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

SRM posted:


Now you can own a piece of unspiration!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112055283914

that scrunt does not look well :ohdear:

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
I remember the scene in Berserk where Guts eats some monster poo poo and everyone starts calling him Scatsu

Lord Hypnostache
Nov 6, 2009

OATHBREAKER

SRM posted:


Now you can own a piece of unspiration!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112055283914

I see the eyes have been converted to make them easier to paint. We're looking at a Golden Demon winner here.

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer

Lord Hypnostache posted:

I see the eyes have been converted to make them easier to paint. We're looking at a Golden Demon winner here.
You and I think alike.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FayBHOhucf0

Weirdo
Jul 22, 2004

I stay up late :coffee:

Grimey Drawer

Improbable Lobster posted:

I remember the scene in Berserk where Guts eats some monster poo poo and everyone starts calling him Scatsu

Guts finds a small necklace shaped like a chamber pot.

"Toiherit..."

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo
Reminder that Miura has another manga where the hero is powered up by drinking magical little girl pee.

mike12345
Jul 14, 2008

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."





mango sentinel posted:

Reminder that Miura has another manga where the hero is powered up by drinking magical little girl pee.

sounds like a silicon valley thing

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



mango sentinel posted:

Reminder that Miura has another manga where the hero is powered up by drinking magical little girl pee.

... Excuse me? :psylon:

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

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Jan 10, 2008



Limited edition pool noodle grievous

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