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AtomikKrab posted:there are 777,778 worlds... thank you. ... not sure how right you are but that would explain the why, if YISUN divided evenly, there would be an odd number of gods/worlds
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The Ayshkerbundy posted:... not sure how right you are but that would explain the why, if YISUN divided evenly, there would be an odd number of gods/worlds they specifically said allisons earth is in mottoms domain
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Nov 20, 2016 08:12
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violent sex idiot posted:they specifically said allisons earth is in mottoms domain yeah that's the biggest strike against it
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Nov 20, 2016 08:12
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I'm waiting for the retcon where Abaddon is like, poo poo those names are really similar, my bad.
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Nov 20, 2016 08:14
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The Ayshkerbundy posted:... not sure how right you are but that would explain the why, if YISUN divided evenly, there would be an odd number of gods/worlds Possible, although it is already debated: Abbadon in a comment somewhere posted:Generally it is accepted there are 388,888 White Gods and 388,889 Black Gods, and this is the official version endorsed by the Concordance of Demiurges and the Seven Lords of Infinity, but there is some (rare) dissidence, including a hermaphrodite God, a gray God, and the bizarre notion of two times 0.5 of a God (which is rarer still due to dispute about just what 0.5 of a God constitutes) I love this theology. 
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Nov 20, 2016 08:24
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Then there's the theory where the gods just shower off and jump into a big bucket of black or white paint to keep the priests guessing. It's not a very well-followed theory.
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Nov 20, 2016 08:55
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MikeJF posted:Possible, although it is already debated: .5 God Presses.
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Nov 20, 2016 09:09
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DarkCrawler posted:(what the gently caress is as valuable as an entire universe?!) Not dying and living the rest of your existence in unimaginable luxury.
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Nov 20, 2016 09:17
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MikeJF posted:Mottom's backstory is how she got her start in power, I mean I expect he funded the campaign taking the Seven from a small pact to winning the war. They didn't win the war together, I'm pretty sure. The Pact of the Seven Part World happened after every other demiurge was dead. DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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Nov 20, 2016 15:57
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MikeJF posted:Possible, although it is already debated: A god is a god. You can't say it's only a half.
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Nov 20, 2016 16:17
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are you saying it's not possible for a god to be half a god? that seems like exactly the kind of bullshit a god would pull imo
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Nov 20, 2016 21:06
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Why stop at .5? Keep going until this turns into Cantor's Aesmas and the lessons she didn't learn being an indivisible particle.
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Nov 21, 2016 00:58
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Guys, guys, its clear what the answer is. The gods are equally divided because YISUN still (does/does not) exist! Its Schrodinger's Cat, in god form. Of course they'd have trouble counting Him/Her/It/They/Whatever!
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Nov 21, 2016 02:05
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2 Michael is the only Angel I know who can have fun defending an empty city... FOR 12 KALPAS
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Nov 21, 2016 02:47
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My Apologies to John Cleese - Half a God, philosophically, must, ipso facto, half not be. But half the God has got to be, vis a vis its entity - do you see? But can a God be said to be or not to be an entire God when half the God is not a God due to some ancient injury?
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Nov 21, 2016 03:07
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Okay so this page shows Zoss and the 7. Is that supposed to be literal? I'm trying to make sense of the timeline. I was under the impression that the war that the Seven won and split creation over was after he vanished. Admittedly, I didn't read very thoroughly my first time reading this.
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Nov 21, 2016 03:13
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Malpais Legate posted:Okay so this page shows Zoss and the 7. Is that supposed to be literal? I'm trying to make sense of the timeline. I was under the impression that the war that the Seven won and split creation over was after he vanished. Zoss abandons his heaven after the second reconquest begins.
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Nov 21, 2016 03:35
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Malpais Legate posted:Okay so this page shows Zoss and the 7. Is that supposed to be literal? I'm trying to make sense of the timeline. I was under the impression that the war that the Seven won and split creation over was after he vanished.
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Nov 21, 2016 03:40
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In one of his talks with Allison, Zoss talks about how much of a whiner Mottom is. He's probably interacted with all of them as the leader of creation. Edit: This One Happy Underpants fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Nov 21, 2016 |
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Nov 21, 2016 03:49
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Unless I've vastly misread something, the way the whole thing works is that the demiurges used to be Zoss' comrades in arms, companions, and servants. At least some of them helped Zoss set up his empire in the first place. Think of Alexander the Great and the diadochi, and keep in mind most of the people at the level of the demiurges are functionally immortal. Benson Cunningham posted:I'm waiting for the retcon where Abaddon is like, poo poo those names are really similar, my bad. Comrade Gorbash fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Nov 21, 2016 |
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Nov 21, 2016 04:00
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Comrade Gorbash posted:Unless I've vastly misread something, the way the whole thing works is that the demiurges used to be Zoss' comrades in arms, companions, and servants. At least some of them helped Zoss set up his empire in the first place. The early ones were, but the Seven rose to a much-diluted demiurge rank after the worlds were opened by keys. They never cut their own way to Throne, so they were never really on the same tier as him like the first-gen demiurges were.
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Nov 21, 2016 04:10
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I don't think anyone was on the same tier as him, since the act of breaching was itself a huge breakthrough that allowed lesser attempts to make it. Where was it stated they're all 3rd gen?
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Nov 21, 2016 05:04
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Zoss conquered Throne alone. The conquest of the 777,777 universes was done by the Demiurges while Zoss reigned over his Throne. unless I misunderstood something, which is often the case.
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Spiderdrake posted:I don't think anyone was on the same tier as him, since the act of breaching was itself a huge breakthrough that allowed lesser attempts to make it. Even so they weren't even on the level of the people who managed to break into throne after Zoss paved the way. At LEAST two tiers down.
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Yeah. Zoss was top-tier, then for a while Demiurge society consisted of the elite who managed to follow his footsteps, who he probably considered peers, even if they weren't on the same level as him. Then the universes were opened up and Demiurge society was joined by scrubs who became Demiurges by amassing power but didn't cut their way to Throne like the original Demiurges did. After that, the opening of universes became a real conquest, and then it turned to war. All of the original Demiurges out-powered The Seven of the time by quite a bit, but presumably they mutually annihilated during the war. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Nov 21, 2016 |
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Nov 21, 2016 06:10
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All the demiurges on up to Zoss were, also, for all their power still fundamentally mortal and vulnerable. You could be a top-tier demiurge and still get ganked by, say, a sufficiently motivated woman with no powers except a knife in the right place.
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Nov 21, 2016 07:47
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MikeJF posted:All of the original Demiurges out-powered The Seven of the time by quite a bit, but presumably they mutually annihilated during the war. I think he answered a question somewhere saying that although they weren't initially as powerful as 1st generation demiurges, they each hold 111,111 keys and have had absolute dominion over a 7th of the universe for a ludicrously long time to consolidate their power. So it'd be an open question who'd win if a first gen suddenly appeared again in the current climate
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Happy Underpants posted:In one of his talks with Allison, Zoss talks about how much of a whiner Mottom is. He's probably interacted with all of them as the leader of creation. man those last three panels are some of the baddest poo poo ever. grouchy spirit-guide/grandad Zoss is the best. "i choose king" *cuts the world*
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Nov 21, 2016 18:37
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You know saying there are 777,777 worlds is probably just a fancy way of saying there are infinite worlds
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Nov 21, 2016 20:17
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A big flaming stink posted:You know saying there are 777,777 worlds is probably just a fancy way of saying there are infinite worlds Its 777,777 universes not worlds.
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A big flaming stink posted:You know saying there are 777,777 worlds is probably just a fancy way of saying there are infinite worlds In any other story I'd agree, however it's been stated that the demiurges have quite literally split the total of all worlds seven ways between them. That being the case, I assume the 777,777 worlds is the literal number.
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Nov 21, 2016 21:17
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It's universes. The 777,777 gods looked out from throne and wove a yarn that became a universe.
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Nov 21, 2016 21:42
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Spiderdrake posted:It's universes. I'm aware. The terms have been used interchangeably in this comic.
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Nov 21, 2016 21:43
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I suspect a universe can contain several worlds, ie planets. But all the worlds in a universe would could be reached by travelling in a way germane to the universe, rather than by division. Like taking a rocket to Mars or something.
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Nov 21, 2016 23:24
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Tenebrais posted:I suspect a universe can contain several worlds, ie planets. But all the worlds in a universe would could be reached by travelling in a way germane to the universe, rather than by division. Like taking a rocket to Mars or something. Some universes are like ours, really huge with all sorts of galaxies and possibly habitable worlds. Others are a single planet in a crystal sphere orbited by a big light source.
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Nov 21, 2016 23:26
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DarkCrawler posted:(what the gently caress is as valuable as an entire universe?!)
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Nov 22, 2016 09:02
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Derivatives, man. Let us sell god a bad loan to see if he goes broke.
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Nov 22, 2016 09:05
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Fanfic. It's how Ciocie wants to finance her return to Ebon Devilhood.
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Nov 22, 2016 13:49
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atomicthumbs posted:The creation of exotic financial instruments is one of the least-known uses of the Art. The sanctioned act is to short. The act of royalty is a continuous hedging motion.
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Throne still hasnt recovered from the subprime buttfruit loan crash of '08
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