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Thor-Stryker posted:Hope for Sarcastic-Ryder has increased, because Sarcastic-Hawke that was the only good thing about Dragon Age 2. Sarcastic Hawke is overrated.
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SgtSteel91 posted:Sarcastic Hawke is overrated.  
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Nov 21, 2016 07:52
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I wonder how long dialogue options are going to be limited to the number of face buttons on a controller.
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Nov 21, 2016 08:11
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Nah man, you've got stockholm syndrome or whatever. DA2 was SO loving POORLY DONE that anything in that game that's not literally poo poo dribbling down your leg will seem fun or even enjoyable by comparison. And looking back, you only THINK you remember liking it.
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Nov 21, 2016 08:11
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Overall I am "optimistic" about this game, I always liked the exploring the frontier feel alot of the first game in the series that got bogged down in two with action being more focused on dealing with criminals and terrorist organizations, then three being wrapped up in a ragnarok scenario, against the Reapers who were way less dangerous and interesting the more you learned about them. I always felt Bioware wrote themselves a bit into a corner by building an interesting and vibrant setting, but having a doomsday clock ticking down that would destroy it. Plus beating the Reapers seemed really contrived and I liked the idea of just cutting and running which is pretty much the plot of Andromeda. I probably will buy this game especially since Inquisition was much better than DA2 and ME3 in my book.
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Nov 21, 2016 08:26
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Drifter posted:Nah man, you've got stockholm syndrome or whatever. DA2 was SO loving POORLY DONE that anything in that game that's not literally poo poo dribbling down your leg will seem fun or even enjoyable by comparison. Reminder that kotor started with a space battle, dragon age origins started with six extensive prologues, mass effect 1 had a star trek distress signal mystery, and mass effect 2 had the exploding Normandy. Meanwhile dragon age 2 starts with you fighting puddies on poo poo mountain
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Nov 21, 2016 08:31
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Nice, I thought Alpha Protocol had the best system because you had to change how you talk depending who you're conversing with. Like there were characters that respect a professional tone, others who find it boring. And choosing the right option gave you 'loyalty points' with the person iirc.
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Nov 21, 2016 08:31
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They should just give you multiple voice options like in origins. "Warden Sense is tingling!"
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Little Bitch Man posted:Nice, I thought Alpha Protocol had the best system because you had to change how you talk depending who you're conversing with. Alpha Protocol unironically had the best dialogue system in a videogame. Its too bad it was tied to a below average spy/shooter mission system.
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Nov 21, 2016 08:52
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Hatefucking people in Dragon Age 2 was pretty cool. I hope thats possible in Andromeda.
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Drifter posted:Nah man, you've got stockholm syndrome or whatever. DA2 was SO loving POORLY DONE that anything in that game that's not literally poo poo dribbling down your leg will seem fun or even enjoyable by comparison. The rivalry thing was the best companion mechanic, because now you didn't need to suck a character's dick to get the most out of them/prevent them from betraying or abandoning you/etc. It's also nice that Hawke just wanted to survive and wasn't the big prophesied or destined hero. Other than that, the game was one of the most poorly done major games I've ever played, and despite the few good ideas, I never replayed it. Alain Post posted:It's clearly the best Bioware game ever, and is the best game in the series by virtually every metric except for Mass Effect 3 having more + cooler guns in it. Baldur's Gate 2 is still better than ME2.
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Little Bitch Man posted:Nice, I thought Alpha Protocol had the best system because you had to change how you talk depending who you're conversing with. You could get it wrong on purpose and making them hate you also had its benefits sometimes.
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Torrannor posted:The rivalry thing was the best companion mechanic, because now you didn't need to suck a character's dick to get the most out of them/prevent them from betraying or abandoning you/etc. The only companion that I ever managed to max out rivalry with was Anders, because he made it so easy to disagree 90+% of the time. 
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Alpha Protocol's dialogue system was cool because literally the first or second conversation you have, your boss explains that Thorton will want to cloak his true intentions and only say what he thinks someone will want to hear in his role as a superspy and yet people still complained about how their Thorton wasn't 'consistent' and seemed like a self-interested sociopath.
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Nov 21, 2016 11:51
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Dan Didio posted:Alpha Protocol's dialogue system was cool because literally the first or second conversation you have, your boss explains that Thorton will want to cloak his true intentions and only say what he thinks someone will want to hear in his role as a superspy and yet people still complained about how their Thorton wasn't 'consistent' and seemed like a self-interested sociopath. Not that I agree with that sentiment, buuut https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUydx57te9s - Mike Thornton's Greatest Hits
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It also played with that conceit in interesting ways; like if you tried to deliberately piss Marburg off, but acted differently outside of that, he'd know because he's, y'know, also a superspy, and it wouldn't work on goading him into facing off with you.
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Reclaimer posted:Not that I agree with that sentiment, buuut https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUydx57te9s - Mike Thornton's Greatest Hits Obsidian should do a Telltale-style game. Or should have tried when it still had the resources.
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Drifter posted:Nah man, you've got stockholm syndrome or whatever. DA2 was SO loving POORLY DONE that anything in that game that's not literally poo poo dribbling down your leg will seem fun or even enjoyable by comparison. This. The "funny, snarky" Hawke conversation options were literally the only good part of that game and again, only by comparison to the rest of it. DA:2 was a dumpster fire filled with old tires and medical waste. They're welcome to pinch the good bits of game design from DA:I and re-use them in ME:A though, so long as they sort out the pacing issues.
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Dan Didio posted:Alpha Protocol's dialogue system was cool because literally the first or second conversation you have, your boss explains that Thorton will want to cloak his true intentions and only say what he thinks someone will want to hear in his role as a superspy and yet people still complained about how their Thorton wasn't 'consistent' and seemed like a self-interested sociopath. I really liked the Recruit/Veteran options you'd get on your first and repeat playthroughs respectively.
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FronzelNeekburm posted:Start out with Recruit packs until you max out the cheap guns. That way, you aren't wasting tons of spacebux on common weapons. After that, you can buy whatever. They're responsible for the Sole Survivor background too iirc. I don't think you can ever bring it up in 2 if you took it in 1. e: Wait with that Alpha Protocol video Mina's a spy? I never realized that in three playthroughs. RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Nov 21, 2016 |
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RBA Starblade posted:They're responsible for the Sole Survivor background too iirc. I don't think you can ever bring it up in 2 if you took it in 1. I'm pretty sure the only person who's not at least a double agent in AP is like, Steven.
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Okay, dragon age 2 did have the murder knife so it has that going for it.
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RBA Starblade posted:They're responsible for the Sole Survivor background too iirc. I don't think you can ever bring it up in 2 if you took it in 1. Yeah ME2 was frustrating in that regard. DA1 was nice because depending on race and class you were treated differently, in mass effect outside of 1 being a biotic is never mentioned, and what your background is barely comes up.
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Alain Post posted:Same, except for turians. same except for the Normandy
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Drifter posted:Nah man, you've got stockholm syndrome or whatever. DA2 was SO loving POORLY DONE that anything in that game that's not literally poo poo dribbling down your leg will seem fun or even enjoyable by comparison. The flak for DA2 is so over the top. It was a bad dragon age game but I didn't feel robbed of my monies after playing it. It had a lot of fun dialogue. Maybe I couldn't get on the hate bandwagon because I personally thought DA1 was a super flawed game as well disclaimer: I did play as sarcastic femhawke and it was good. It was the closest I got to playing a completely disinterested rear end in a top hat in a Hero rpg who just makes fun of the grimdark villain all the time. I mean just listen to how god drat smug she is constantly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b56ZQErYky0
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Zzulu posted:The flak for DA2 is so over the top. It was a bad dragon age game but I didn't feel robbed of my monies after playing it. It had a lot of fun dialogue. Maybe I couldn't get on the hate bandwagon because I personally thought DA1 was a super flawed game as well no actually DA2 was really really bad (REALLY bad)
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I am pretty sure Heck straight up works for Halbech too. Which is why he never questions you just appearing or working with Scarlet since he is just as in on it all in Taipei.
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Nov 21, 2016 17:55
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DA2 was bad, but I can't hate wisecracking dwarf, your lovable companion.
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The only thing I really liked about sarcastic Hawke were the NPCs going " what is wrong with you" when you'd make a lame wisecrack in a completely inappropriate situation
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Dr. Abysmal posted:The only thing I really liked about sarcastic Hawke were the NPCs going " what is wrong with you" when you'd make a lame wisecrack in a completely inappropriate situation Same, except with me at the Holocaust Museum c. 1998.
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I suspect people who think DA2 was incredibly bad have not played many incredibly bad games -- maybe because they're young, or because they have been lucky. DA2 recycled environments like it was programmed by Greenpeace, but it told a "smaller" story that wasn't about saving the world AGAIN and had fun dialogue. And the combat was less mage-broken than DA1.
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Nov 21, 2016 18:05
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That was the best part of Alpha Protocol, too. You could try to hit on the cute reporter sitting next to you on the plane with a bunch of cheesy "suave" remarks and instead of looking like James Bond, she immediately wants to switch seats.
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I did not like DA:O's gameplay at all but the rest of it was fun and good. I liked DA2's gameplay more than O's and for the most part enjoyed the dumb plot. I thought DA:I was great except the trash multiplayer. Well those are my thoughts on that franchise cya
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homullus posted:I suspect people who think DA2 was incredibly bad have not played many incredibly bad games -- maybe because they're young, or because they have been lucky. DA2 recycled environments like it was programmed by Greenpeace, but it told a "smaller" story that wasn't about saving the world AGAIN and had fun dialogue. And the combat was less mage-broken than DA1. Nobody disliked the story in DA2 because of the scale. They disliked it because it sucked and the writing was terrible. I'm all for smaller scale stories instead of SAVE THE WORLD AGAIN. But just being fresh didn't make it good. It was fresh and bad.
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DA2's's writing had potential (everything in DA2 "had potential") but christ, it sometimes came across as none of the writers knew that "mage" was actually a playable class.
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Nov 21, 2016 18:52
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you revisionist history "dragon age 2 wasnt that bad" freaks disgust me to my gay core
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Zzulu posted:The flak for DA2 is so over the top. It was a bad dragon age game but I didn't feel robbed of my monies after playing it. It had a lot of fun dialogue. Maybe I couldn't get on the hate bandwagon because I personally thought DA1 was a super flawed game as well Agreed with all of this. The gameplay wasn't good tho (But could prolly say that about the whole series)
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Moola posted:you revisionist history "dragon age 2 wasnt that bad" freaks disgust me to my gay core DA2 is maybe the only game that makes me feel profound embarrassment for the person who had to play it just to put up a youtube link to a scene or w/e.
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exquisite tea posted:DA2 is maybe the only game that makes me feel profound embarrassment
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Moola posted:you revisionist history "dragon age 2 wasnt that bad" freaks disgust me to my gay core Hey now, I've liked DA 2 since its release. You can impugn my taste, but at least I'm consistent! Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Nov 21, 2016 |
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