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Nebalebadingdong posted:Is this a sign that the two-state solution is going from "slowly evaporating" to "circling the drain"?
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Grouchio posted:How is it his worst decision? Well firstly I meant appointment, sorry. Decisions as a whole is probably more arguable. But I know more about Huckabee than Bannon or Flynn and I can guess what an Israeli diplomat does better than, say, Chief Strategist. Obama's trying to be vaguely more critical of Israel will all be reversed and now we have a diplomat who will kiss their asses and bless them no matter what they do. That's why I thought it was the worst appointment. I might very well be wrong with the Islamophobe being National Security Adviser.... I dunno, it's goddam Trump. I can't keep up with all the bad decisions and their ramifications.
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NikkolasKing posted:Well firstly I meant appointment, sorry. Decisions as a whole is probably more arguable.
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Grouchio posted:Ramifications? You mean an increased amount of terrorism against the US for being absolute dickheads, especially if we go to war with Iran? Well that's one possibility. I'm hoping that doesn't happen, obviously. I was more worried about what our government would do to us and immigrants than what other nations' citizens might do to us because our actions. But my one great hope for President Trump was that he'd be surrounded by reasonable people who could keep him from getting us involved in any conflicts. That was a very vain hope I'm seeing now.
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trump is rewarding his cronies who supported him with their dream jobs. he probably doesn't give a poo poo about any of these issues and wants to just trump around as the big shot while peons like huckabee try to annex Bethlehem to be a territory of Arkansas and noted racist clan sympathizer jeff sessions is attorney general. when he cares about something on a whim or due to backlash they'll have to do his wacky thing but under the radar a lot of people will have all the keys to all their favorite toys.
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Mike "THE IRAN DEAL IS LIKE SHOVING JEWS INTO OVENS AGAIN" Huckabee is seriously going to be ambassador to israel? Is this real loving life or a john carpenter movie.
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NikkolasKing posted:http://www.timesofisrael.com/huckabee-denies-being-tapped-as-trumps-israel-envoy/ This doesn't mean he's for sure not the ambassador but I'm just grateful for this brief window where I can go back to being in denial about Huckabee being the ambassador. Watch in a week we get US - Israeli ambassador Ted Cruz.
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DrProsek posted:This doesn't mean he's for sure not the ambassador but I'm just grateful for this brief window where I can go back to being in denial about Huckabee being the ambassador.
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FlamingLiberal posted:That would be great because we can basically just ignore him instead of having him whining and grandstanding on the Senate floor Honestly as bad as that'd be for Palestine (and probably Israel too, since a terrible US-Israeli ambassador means a generally less competent US Middle Eastern policy overall), it probably wouldn't be better under any other ambassador and at least we'd get that silver lining. Suddenly I'm all for Ambassador Cruz.
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I missed this in the news overload, but the child hunting season seems to still be open. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/16/israel2 quote:An Israeli army officer who fired the entire magazine of his automatic rifle into a 13-year-old Palestinian girl and then said he would have done the same even if she had been three years old was acquitted on all charges by a military court yesterday.
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As Trump's election established, nothing matters. If he's acquitted for that kind of conduct then nobody will be punished for shooting children apparently
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"This is commander. Anything that's mobile, that moves in the [security] zone, even if it's a three-year-old, needs to be killed." Lock this bag of animated poo poo in a hole and leave him there to rot, jesus christ almighty what a sickening waste of blood and organs.
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Svartvit posted:I missed this in the news overload, but the child hunting season seems to still be open. You probably missed it because it's from 11 years ago.
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Kabanaw posted:You probably missed it because it's from 11 years ago. This is what happens when I use Facebook.
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Kabanaw posted:You probably missed it because it's from 11 years ago. Amazing how nothing changes. 
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Yardbomb posted:"This is commander. Anything that's mobile, that moves in the [security] zone, even if it's a three-year-old, needs to be killed." It's a common enough rationale in the IDF. The shelling of children on the Gaza beaches was similar - the nearby fisherman's shack was deemed a "Hamas facility" and therefore anyone sighted near it was assumed to be a Hamas member and therefore a valid target. Officially, troops called it in to command, who carried out a threat assessment and determined that there was ample reason to consider them hostiles and valid targets, so they're covered if there's an investigation or if Israel needs to pay lip service to international law...but really, all they did was unilaterally declare a zone to be "civilian-free" to spare themselves the effort of determining whether anyone in that zone is a civilian or not.
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It's funny how some people will so readily accept "Just following orders" from certain groups still, when otherwise that was supposed to have gone out the door with friggin Nuremberg. Wonder whyyyyyyy. 
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Yardbomb posted:It's funny how some people will so readily accept "Just following orders" from certain groups still, when otherwise that was supposed to have gone out the door with friggin Nuremberg. Wonder whyyyyyyy. I put the blame on a few bad apples.
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Haaretz now has a page containing most of the known information about the recent corruption scandal involving Netanyahu, the page itself is not behind the paywall - http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/LIVE-1.753695
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as the cult of great america scrapes its agonising way toward the heart of the earth, the tremendous heat will melt and meld them into one loud and stinking mass of flesh. trump, pence and all their voters will finally be united in the purest way imaginable - part of the same hideous mass, a seething gluttonous ocean of pink meat powering itself forward by eating coal straight out of the ground. its passage will weaken the very bones of the planet. continents will implode as america passes underneath them. huge vortexes will form as the seas spiral down into the sucking chasms to evaporate instantly in the terrible fire of the core. micronesia, long since swallowed by water and forgotten by history, will re-emerge as a new superpower. a land bridge will form between australia, indonesia and what remains of southeast asia after the nuclear war. once more we will all be connected. meanwhile the festering flesh kingdom of great america eats and eats, digs and digs, until all at once they break through the bedrock and into the mantle and are incinerated by the lava, creating a miasma of barbecue-tinged smoke that will tantalise the atmosphere for forty years and create a barrier between humanity and the furious sun. thus will the three-pronged catastrophe of the rising sea, the roasting earth and the sins of great america be resolved. all rights will be wronged, all sins punished, and we will live forever in paradise. blessed is the name! amen
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Svartvit posted:So apparently Trump suggested his New York billionaire heir nephew as Israel-Palestine envoy in the NYT talks. I'm guessing it's another one of his lies? Maybe it's his least favorite nephew?
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All he said was that Kushner "could be the guy to bring peace", he really wasn't any more specific than that.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:All he said was that Kushner "could be the guy to bring peace", he really wasn't any more specific than that. Of "They make a desert and call it peace" variety?
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emanresu tnuocca posted:All he said was that Kushner "could be the guy to bring peace", he really wasn't any more specific than that. DRUMPF: Oh. Maybe nothing. Because I don’t want to have people saying ‘conflict.’ Even though the president of the United States — I hope whoever is writing this story, it’s written fairly — the president of the United States is allowed to have whatever conflicts he wants — he or she wants. But I don’t want to go by that. Jared’s a very smart guy. He’s a very good guy. The people that know him, he’s a quality person and I think he can be very helpful. I would love to be able to be the one that made peace with Israel and the Palestinians. I would love that, that would be such a great achievement. Because nobody’s been able to do it. HABERMAN: Do you think he can be part of that? DRUMPF: Well, I think he’d be very good at it. I mean he knows it so well. He knows the region, knows the people, knows the players. I would love to be — and you can put that down in a list of many things that I’d like to be able to do. Now a lot of people tell me, really great people tell me, that it’s impossible, you can’t do it. I’ve had a lot of, actually, great Israeli businesspeople tell me, you can’t do that, it’s impossible. I disagree, I think you can make peace. I think people are tired now of being shot, killed. At some point, when do they come? I think we can do that. I have reason to believe I can do that.
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Some dude in some comments section posted:Election is comeing...Good riddens to Hussein (Insane) Obama John (scary) Kerry and (Sillery) Hillary Clinton! BA BYE!
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emanresu tnuocca posted:All he said was that Kushner "could be the guy to bring peace", he really wasn't any more specific than that. If Kushner spends any amount of time in Israel and brings Ivanka with him, that whole mess with the Israeli Rabbinate rejecting her rabbi's conversions (and implicitly hers) is going to rear its ugly head.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:If Kushner spends any amount of time in Israel and brings Ivanka with him, that whole mess with the Israeli Rabbinate rejecting her rabbi's conversions (and implicitly hers) is going to rear its ugly head. Yeah for some reason I tend to think Bibi and friends will tell the rabbinate to suck it if they try to provoke Ivanka or any of the Trump clan members. Just listen to the deafening silence coming from the Bibi administration concerning Trump's recent questionably-antisemitic appointments, Bibi is not going to do anything that alienates trump.
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Xander77 posted:Don't sink to this level. The political discussion in... in anywhere, actually... is low enough already. If you're referring to the spelling of "Trump", I installed an app in Chrome a long time ago that changes it into "Drumpf" and now I have no way of knowing myself what it actually says.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Yeah for some reason I tend to think Bibi and friends will tell the rabbinate to suck it if they try to provoke Ivanka or any of the Trump clan members. Do you really think the Rabbinate gives a poo poo? Netanyahu would just as easily make conversions easy, he just doesn't want to lose the votes from Shas and UTJ. The Modern Orthodox who support Netanyahu and Bennett (nevermind the Russians supporting Lieberman) are largely pro-conversion.
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Kim Jong Il posted:Do you really think the Rabbinate gives a poo poo? Netanyahu would just as easily make conversions easy, he just doesn't want to lose the votes from Shas and UTJ. The Modern Orthodox who support Netanyahu and Bennett (nevermind the Russians supporting Lieberman) are largely pro-conversion. Yeah that's great but none of this is ever gonna happen anyway. If Ivanka for some reason would sue for an Israeli citizenship it's like she'll come to some arrangement with the rabbinate that doesn't rock the boat so much (like an expedited Giyur, a thing which is known to happen). In other news, not about the submarines this time I swear, there have been forest fires raging all over Israel the past week, now the Shin Bet is claiming they're investigating suspicions that these were caused by intentional arson and that are in fact forms of terror attacks. - http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4883877,00.html - so yeah, this could get ugly. I am not making any judgement calls as to whether these are arsons or not, before you guys pounce on me.
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Not to be callous to either side, but, if the fires are indeed an act of resistance/terrorism, they are an interesting departure from the recent spate of stabbings/rammings. It's always perplexed me that we don't see more such actions with better short-term survivability for the perpetrator (and thus the option to act again). There haven't been deaths from the fires as far as I've read, but they cause much greater disruption than a random attempted stabbing. But until more information about the suspects is released, who's to say it's not an ultra-right false-flag or even just hysteria over natural phenomena that's going to be used to justify a pogrom against the vilified out-group? Either way, here's hoping it doesn't result in the deaths of innocents.
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My experience of criminal forest arson is that the culprits are usually realty developers, rather than political activists. "Well, all this protected forestland is no longer forestland, so it no longer needs to be protected, right? Perfect, I've got some big projects for this area, look at all these ugly buildings I'm planning to plop down there!"
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Yeah I don't think it's arson, turns out there's a ton of wildfires going on right now in Lebanon and Syria as well, the weather is very dry and windy and the summer was long and warm, I'm no fire-person but people say that those are pretty much the ideal conditions for fires to start. In any way, that didn't stop Bibi from calling this "arson terrorism" and ynet even went as far as having the words "the arson intifada" on its front page, so things are still on the path towards getting ugly. Wildfires in the past 24 hours, for reference:  emanresu tnuocca fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Nov 24, 2016 |
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Yeah that's great but none of this is ever gonna happen anyway. If Ivanka for some reason would sue for an Israeli citizenship it's like she'll come to some arrangement with the rabbinate that doesn't rock the boat so much (like an expedited Giyur, a thing which is known to happen). Seen some rather lovely comments of people basically going "Good" at hearing about the fires and saying that if it was arson then they deserved it. If I didn't have sympathy for the people affected by this before I certainly do so now.
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