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R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

kustomkarkommando posted:

sacking half a million public sector employees, making 100bn in cuts, raising VAT by 2% and reducing income taxation, reducing unemployment benefits, increasing the public sector workweek to 39 hours and raising the retirement age to 65
lol

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PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

alright well

with the bizarrely-inept sarkozy dead, at least it looks like the global north won't have yet another fascist uprising

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
What's up with sarkozy

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

Volkerball posted:

What's up with sarkozy

he got creamed in the LR primary yesterday, by fillon (a LR apparatchik who's into deep austerity) and juppe (a former gaullist who seems to be sorta the equivalent of an old-timey machine democrat, from what I can tell)

this is good because sarkozy kept lagging far behind le pen in general election polling, while other LR candidates lead her
so anybody reasonable should've been rooting for sarkozy to lose the primary

its assumed that the socialists won't make it to the 2nd round of the general owing to hollande being unpopular.
in which case it'll come down to LR versus FN

PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Nov 21, 2016

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Volkerball posted:

What's up with sarkozy

the hobgoblin is dead

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

PupsOfWar posted:

he got creamed in the LR primary yesterday, by fillon (a LR apparatchik who's into deep austerity) and juppe (a former gaullist who seems to be sorta the equivalent of an old-timey machine democrat, from what I can tell)

this is good because sarkozy kept lagging far behind le pen in general election polling, while other LR candidates lead her
so anybody reasonable should've been rooting for sarkozy to lose the primary

Also sarkozy is a vile little poo poo

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

kustomkarkommando posted:

Also sarkozy is a vile little poo poo

Yeah I got real bad juju from that guy.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

DrProsek posted:

The whole reason Trump happened is because the system didn't work, and the people in charge of it had their heads so far up their rear end they thought Obama being able to keep things afloat for 8 years meant everything was fine, the GOP was dead forever.

Turns out Obama was an anomaly, not a sign of things working.

he explicitly campaigned on hope and change

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

Volkerball posted:

What's up with sarkozy

Learned the hard way that proportional voting means a a candidate's votes are proportional to his height.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Dude got campaign funds from Gaddafi then turned around and was among the most prominent advocates for killing him.

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS
Also wanted to give Germany nukes.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
BHL said it was because Sarkozy was embarrassed that they didn't do anything about Ben Ali and that Libya was his way of making up for it, but that sounds like too human of a thing for Sarkozy to be true.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

was also spectacularly corrupt and anti-democratic, and imposed weird reactionary policies everywhere from justice to immigration

together with merkel, he helped form the bizarrely dysfunctional EU response to the economic crisis and explicitly ceded france's leading role in the EU to germany

sarkozy is just ridiculously bad on almost every possible level

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

Volkerball posted:

BHL said it was because Sarkozy was embarrassed that they didn't do anything about Ben Ali and that Libya was his way of making up for it, but that sounds like too human of a thing for Sarkozy to be true.

BHL is a complete hack and rear end in a top hat himself so i wouldn't be surprised

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

Weren't sarkozy and chirac whining that they'd refuse to endorse a PS candidate against Le Pen, if no LR candidate made the second round?

Refusing to reciprocate for 2002, basically

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

during the campaign sarkozy said he wanted to ban the hijab. gently caress em

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Avshalom posted:

having read the best survivalist manual written in our time, mccarthy's the road, i understand that in months to come no matter what i do only divine grace will stand between me and death, and also that hope is a cruel lie and the best thing to do is just shoot myself at the first sign of societal deterioration

Eat you're children

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

V. Illych L. posted:

BHL is a complete hack and rear end in a top hat himself so i wouldn't be surprised

There's worse out there.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

BHL is, like, the worst philosopher

i'm pretty sure that i, forums poster v. illych l., am a better philosopher than BHL

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
He makes some good points when it comes to the merit of liberal intervention but overall he leaves a bad taste in my mouth

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Particularly when we start to talk about Israel

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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Volkerball posted:

He makes some good points when it comes to the merit of liberal intervention but overall he leaves a bad taste in my mouth

he stole all of those from bernhard kouchner, an actual intelligent adult, even if he is a fallen communist

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
glitterbomber is so pathetic lol

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

BHL was once made to believe that botulism was a philosophical tendency founded by one jean-baptiste botul, in the age of the internet

he's a total dimwit

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Kouchner is loving annoying.

Avshalom
Feb 14, 2012

by Lowtax
timely reminder that sarkozy not only advocated forcible deportation of several thousand romani french citizens from france to romania, a country that didn't want them, where they didn't speak the language and which has one of the worst antiziganist hate crime rates in the eu, he actually went ahead and did it and as far as i know they're all still stranded over there with no prospects and no way out

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
If there was ever a debate between Bernard Kouchner and liberal leet at some point I would probably be like alright Bernard, let's give the floor to liberal leet here for a bit. You're getting to be a bit much.

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU
So apparently my friend in the span of a year has gone from stage 4 kidney failure and now he may not need a transplant anymore because the damage has somehow healed itself

. What?

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Gin and Juche posted:

So apparently my friend in the span of a year has gone from stage 4 kidney failure and now he may not need a transplant anymore because the damage has somehow healed itself

. What?

Thanks, Trump

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Kidney learned to pull itself up by the bootstraps in Trump's America. No more dialysis handouts.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Gin and Juche posted:

So apparently my friend in the span of a year has gone from stage 4 kidney failure and now he may not need a transplant anymore because the damage has somehow healed itself

. What?

Is he a short and hairy canadian?

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU
He's a short hairless Asian dude that gets his clothes from the kid section

ass struggle
Dec 25, 2012

by Athanatos

Badger of Basra posted:

Are you talking about the one on the left who's definitely wearing aviators



sunglasses or sunken?

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

Volkerball posted:

He makes some good points when it comes to the merit of liberal intervention
l m a o

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Gin and Juche posted:

So apparently my friend in the span of a year has gone from stage 4 kidney failure and now he may not need a transplant anymore because the damage has somehow healed itself

. What?

Oil pulling.

No wait alkaline foods.

Or maybe colloidal silver

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Good points are like helpless Belgian forwards trying to beat Tim Howard when they reach your thick skull.

Ohio State BOOniversity
Mar 3, 2008

Gin and Juche posted:

So apparently my friend in the span of a year has gone from stage 4 kidney failure and now he may not need a transplant anymore because the damage has somehow healed itself

. What?

yay

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret

Gin and Juche posted:

So apparently my friend in the span of a year has gone from stage 4 kidney failure and now he may not need a transplant anymore because the damage has somehow healed itself

. What?
Was it caused by an infection or something? I don't know a ton about kidney disease but yeah that's weird.

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

pangstrom posted:

Was it caused by an infection or something? I don't know a ton about kidney disease but yeah that's weird.

Supposedly it was some disease but I forgot the name of it.

What's especially weird is about 6 months in he gave up on the renal diet and it really didn't make a difference.

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Avshalom
Feb 14, 2012

by Lowtax
it's great to hear about your friend gj! there is so much about how the body works that we don't know, most of the time we find out stuff in bad ways but occasionally there's a happy surprise too.

we used to give heaps of poo poo to one of my friends in high school because he was never at class and he claimed it was just because he was a lazy nerd. he was my date for the year 12 formal (this isn't the guy who's doing a life sentence for drug trafficking, that was year 10) and he was so skinny that in the photos i'm literally twice his width. turns out he was in end-stage renal failure that whole time and just chose to not tell anyone. he ended up getting a kidney (from his mum :3:) and it took really well and even though he was already like 19 he managed to grow like six inches taller after getting that all sorted out and is now a well-built healthy dude

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