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TyrantWD posted:One third of Democrat's representation in the House come from CA, NY and MA, and funding largely comes from your big coastal cities. It's not just the CEO tier of individual who shares their views. A large number of the people who live in these areas are from households pulling in six figures, and whose beliefs aren't radically different from Lloyd Blankfein's or Jamie Dimon's. Minorities scared shitless by the GOP and this group of coastal liberals are the majority of the Democratic Party. Those people are not part of the global capitalist elite. They are just as much have-nots as me and everyone I know. The truly rich are so far removed from us that they might as well be a different species.
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I know you like to post the same exact post every so often but there's plenty of people living in coastal states who aren't rich and vote Democrat.
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Fiction posted:I know you like to post the same exact post every so often but there's plenty of people living in coastal states who aren't rich and vote Democrat. i bet it's the same person behind mysteriousstranger lol
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Karl, I know that got a bit off topic, I think we mostly just have disagreements on effective rhetoric. Which is fine. We both agree on the importance of at least having some narrative counter in the response instead of an empty correction and thats what is important
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Fiction posted:I know you like to post the same exact post every so often but there's plenty of people living in coastal states who aren't rich and vote Democrat. Not to mention that the Democratic party's focus on the coastal elites at the expense of everyone else has already left them in a really lovely position. You can't really control the government with just the presidency and the coastal states.
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Karl Sharks posted:but my point is you can't do that every time Guess we wound up arguing in circles then, whoops. Like I said, dive bar grade politics chat, poo poo like this happens. My bad.
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logikv9 posted:people are morons that don't understand taxes except that they're bad for nebulous reasons so "paying taxes is a good thing" won't resonate with most voters i used to have a MORE TAXES bumper sticker
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Serf posted:we could coddle them right into a guillotine Now you're speaking my language 
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GlyphGryph posted:Karl, I know that got a bit off topic, I think we mostly just have disagreements on effective rhetoric. Which is fine. We both agree on the importance of at least having some narrative counter in the response instead of an empty correction and thats what is important i mean, as i've said, i agree with like 95% of what you're saying, i just don't think ceding the power to create their own reality uncontested to the current party in power is a good thing? (e: to which i mean i agree with this post, just trying to reiterate my original point) to me it's like, not to the same degree but gently caress it, your house burning down behind you while you talk about how awesome the remodeling you're going to do on your kitchen you can keep ignoring the raging fire behind you and talk positively, but you probably should pick up a hose for at least a few minutes, you know? there's tactics that word for inspiring your base and tactics that work when needing to confront the other side's ideas, each situation needs a ratio of the two types, it really should be heavily skewed towards your own positive message, but doesn't mean you leave out facts and pushing back on important issues/statements that are being lied about Karl Sharks has issued a correction as of 00:40 on Nov 22, 2016 |
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Serf posted:Those people are not part of the global capitalist elite. They are just as much have-nots as me and everyone I know. The truly rich are so far removed from us that they might as well be a different species. That truly rich tier of individual, whose grand kids will never have to worry about money, are a tiny fraction of the population and largely Republican. There are millions of Democratic households on the coasts that are every bit a believer in our current brand of capitalism as the CEOs and hedge fund managers of the world - perhaps they don't care about carried interest as much - but that's about it. The Democrats can't afford to lose this group.
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Top City Homo posted:nasty guy For real, this is the kind of person we have to watch out for. An anti-revolutionary, if you will.
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TyrantWD posted:That truly rich tier of individual, whose grand kids will never have to worry about money, are a tiny fraction of the population and largely Republican. There are millions of Democratic households on the coasts that are every bit a believer in our current brand of capitalism as the CEOs and hedge fund managers of the world - perhaps they don't care about carried interest as much - but that's about it. The Democrats can't afford to lose this group. Good thing those people won't be affected then?
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Serf posted:Good thing those people won't be affected then? Oh no, they may have to pay more taxes though 
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Serf posted:Good thing those people won't be affected then? Railing against the elites tends to lump everyone who is not struggling into the "elite" group.
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Bullshit.
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TyrantWD posted:Railing against the elites tends to lump everyone who is not struggling into the "elite" group. only if you do it in a stupid way
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There is something wrong with your brain if you are offended by people insulting the elites. Nobody you know know elites.
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Nonsense posted:There is something wrong with your brain if you are offended by people insulting the elites. every time i see you post i'm tempted to report you for forcing me to look at ted cruz 
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TyrantWD posted:Railing against the elites tends to lump everyone who is not struggling into the "elite" group. You get out that wealth inequality chart and you loving circle the top point in I guess neon lights or some poo poo and say "this is who we're after. The unimaginably wealthy"
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Karl Sharks posted:every time i see you post i'm tempted to report you for forcing me to look at ted cruz At least it's not the gif of him eating it
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OK I think I got it. How about TAX FREEZE? As in, "I will push Congress to institute a TAX FREEZE on the middle class while we close corporate loopholes and force the 1% to pay their fair, overdue share."
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Serf posted:You get out that wealth inequality chart and you loving circle the top point in I guess neon lights or some poo poo and say "this is who we're after. The unimaginably wealthy" Hello America. Did you know the corporate elite made more in bonuses this year than every minimum wage worker combined, yet they oppose raising the minimum wage?
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TyrantWD posted:Railing against the elites tends to lump everyone who is not struggling into the "elite" group. why do you insist in being a defender of the elite? They don't defend you from anything...
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Grey Fox posted:OK I think I got it. how can you freeze things if global warming? checkmate, liberals
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Grey Fox posted:OK I think I got it. hillary literally campaigned on "not raising taxes for anyone earning less than a quarter mil"
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Karl Sharks posted:how can you freeze things if global warming? checkmate, liberals
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:hillary literally campaigned on "not raising taxes for anyone earning less than a quarter mil" TAX FREEZE
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:For real, this is the kind of person we have to watch out for. An anti-revolutionary, if you will. considering your last posts I assume you want him beheaded?
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Serf posted:You get out that wealth inequality chart and you loving circle the top point in I guess neon lights or some poo poo and say "this is who we're after. The unimaginably wealthy" Reminder the "elite" in America are less then 1000 people. Overt hostility is fine.
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TyrantWD posted:Railing against the elites tends to lump everyone who is not struggling into the "elite" group. Then they can join them. 
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https://twitter.com/NBCPolitics/status/800859486596567040 that headline
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Serf posted:You get out that wealth inequality chart and you loving circle the top point in I guess neon lights or some poo poo and say "this is who we're after. The unimaginably wealthy" Not a Step posted:Hello America. Did you know the corporate elite made more in bonuses this year than every minimum wage worker combined, yet they oppose raising the minimum wage?
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They made twice as much in bonuses as all of the minimum wage earners.
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comingafteryouall posted:They made twice as much in bonuses as all of the minimum wage earners. can i get a source please?
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