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Mons Hubris posted:I don't think they've actually said this. Moore said it's too early to comment. yeah there was an updated quote in the nuisance & disturber today moore had said last week that it would be "an absolute last resort" http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article114980628.html Mental-Rectangle posted:We're just slowly and painfully waiting for Raleigh and Charlotte to get enough people to outweigh the tremendous amount of white trash in this state. that's a fool's errand tbqh don't forget both wake and mecklenburg narrowly went for mccrory in 2012; all it takes is a bad candidate or lovely circumstances (which we've had twice now in two successive cycles) to upturn any conventional wisdom the real problem is completely abandoning rural areas. losing smaller counties 60-30 that you normally lose 55-45 starts to add up quick and you can't hope to get back the legislature without competing statewide, not just running up the score in urban precincts The Muppets On PCP has issued a correction as of 01:05 on Nov 22, 2016 |
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Is there nothing we can do if they really try the method the OP stated?
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 01:15 |
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Dank memes will save us. right?
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 02:31 |
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They are trash and into the trashbin they must go so please please go gop go into the trashbin, GET hosed
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 06:10 |
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good point from hasen: fed courts can get involved where nc courts can't https://twitter.com/rickhasen/status/800919311539806208
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Mental-Rectangle posted:We're just slowly and painfully waiting for Raleigh and Charlotte to get enough people to outweigh the tremendous amount of white trash in this state. so what youre saying is Demographics Is Destiny?
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 08:24 |
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Hadn't see this posted: http://www.ncpolicywatch.com/2016/11/21/election-protesters-ncgop-attorneys-supplied-complaint-information-governors-race/quote:Election protesters: NCGOP attorneys supplied complaint information in governor’s race There's some cool charts/graphs at the link: http://www.ncpolicywatch.com/2016/11/21/election-protesters-ncgop-attorneys-supplied-complaint-information-governors-race/
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 18:42 |
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I'm having a difficult time parsing that article... The NC GOP called up county branches and told people "file a protest against person X" and then left them hanging out to dry when the election board followed up with their protest?
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:Dank memes will save us. right? Medieval sketch pitch: Burr and Tillis look awkwardly away from the main scene on shore, Margiotta and Tedesco are thigh-deep and sinking in the Styx. Jesse Helms' face is barely visible in the river's surface. Pat is alive but defeated, represented by a man-face Gadsden snake made of gerrymandered districts, tail firmly in between his lips. Dallas Woodhouse looks aghast, and cries out "For shame, Governor McCroroboros, thou art popeing in thy own mouth!" and maybe Cooper's holding a crown or maybe isn't even in the sketch. It's a bit overfull already. sweart gliwere has issued a correction as of 19:11 on Nov 22, 2016 |
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^^^^^ Need to see that one Phone posted:I'm having a difficult time parsing that article... Yeah, me too, that's why I posted, was hoping to get some smart folks looking at it. It seems to be saying that the NC GOP Lawyers essentially coerced local election boards into signing protest but then didn't actually help them with any information supporting the protest.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 19:12 |
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All of the protests are "Voting While Democrat" or "Voting While Black" and it doesn't pass scrutiny? Welp, better put Pat in. Maybe his big ol' brain can figure this one out.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 19:28 |
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Welp: Gov. Pat McCrory has formally requested a statewide recount in his gubernatorial race against Attorney General Roy Cooper. Read more at http://www.wral.com/news/page/12706857/?break_id=16157#u4pv2XZDyghxrkKt.99
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pat mcwhiny
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 19:37 |
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Watch as another secret night session turns the recount method to "inspired Discernment"
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 19:39 |
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quote:There were 39 individuals accused in the 53 protests of illegally voting because of a felony conviction. At a meeting Sunday though, the State Board of Elections indicated there could be as many as 339 after an IT director informed them Friday he had created a database to take in information from the Department of Correction and then ran it against voters’ names for provisional research. URGENT: 300 or so people voted while having the same names as registered felons (in an election decided by thousands of votes)
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 19:39 |
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Fullhouse posted:URGENT: 300 or so people voted while having the same names as registered felons (in an election decided by thousands of votes) Please refer to this tweet for further instructions: https://twitter.com/Team_McCrory/status/800750751383429120 Please respect the electoral process, sir.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 20:04 |
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Adding this site to the OP, holy poo poo good site: http://www.ncpolicywatch.com/
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 21:09 |
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At least the recount isn't unexpected. That was going to happen no matter what, as long as it was within 10,000 votes. The more I think about this situation, the more I'm of two minds on it. On one hand, the legislature has a supermajority so it's not like they have to worry about a lot of stuff getting vetoed, they don't really seem to like McCrory anyway, and it would use up a ton of political capital. On the other hand, I'm fundamentally beginning to question whether political capital is a relevant concept anymore for the legislature, since they went through the HB2 stuff and lost no net seats.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 21:14 |
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:Welp: Recount isn't so crazy in a race this close. We'll see what additional shenanigans they can pile on top of the process.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 21:18 |
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Does anyone know if their partially singed field warehouse got rebuild with that 15 grand they got?
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 21:26 |
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Roy Cooper's lead is now 8,500. All of which are illegals and dead people no doubt.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 21:31 |
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Vox Nihili posted:Recount isn't so crazy in a race this close. We'll see what additional shenanigans they can pile on top of the process. you mean like civitas filing a federal lawsuit to delay everything so they can throw out same day registrations? http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/politics-columns-blogs/under-the-dome/article116393383.html
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The Muppets On PCP posted:you mean like civitas filing a federal lawsuit to delay everything so they can throw out same day registrations? yeah
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Mental-Rectangle posted:Roy Cooper's lead is now 8,500. If traitors werent allowed to vote, mccrory would be winning carrying 100% of the electorate
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Mental-Rectangle posted:Roy Cooper's lead is now 8,500. It's really hosed up that Roy Cooper killed 8500 people.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 21:53 |
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Mental-Rectangle posted:Roy Cooper's lead is now 8,500. the names of all of those illegal votes? benjamin ghazi
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:26 |
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Lol someone rented a U haul and parked it in front of the governor's mansion. https://twitter.com/stephenpeters2/status/801193615074750464 MaxxBot has issued a correction as of 01:12 on Nov 23, 2016 |
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MaxxBot posted:Lol someone rented a U haul and parked it in front of the government's mansion.
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At least you got a potential angry mob ready to go!
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Karl Sharks posted:the names of all of those illegal votes? and now you know.. the rest of the story.
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Mental-Rectangle posted:Should also mention, NC's GOP has been ruthless at every turn since 2008. NC's not getting rid of the GOP's stranglehold. They could rise up and violently depose and execute the entirety of the NC GOP and all that'd happen is President Trump would wipe out half the state and then the RNC would install new GOP politicians. The state's a good example of what the nation's about to experience. There is zero reason to believe the NC GOP isn't going to do the worst case scenario poo poo here since they will have a unified GOP-held federal government to support them and Trump's SCOTUS pick will all but ensure the current lawsuits against NC all end at least 5-4 in their favor. Simply put: The Democrats in this country are idiots and the GOP have won on a level a lot of people still haven't come to realize. The Muppets On PCP posted:i swear to god we're gonna wind up having voter id every other election In 2020, possibly 2018, you should fully expect voter ID requirements to be a nationwide thing. The GOP can and will pass a law for Trump to sign once they can and there's no way in hell it isn't going to be upheld by the SCOTUS. Draynar posted:Is there nothing we can do if they really try the method the OP stated? Correct. There are no legal outlets that aren't ultimately controlled by the GOP and any attempt to remove them by violence is going to see martial law at best. Mons Hubris posted:At least the recount isn't unexpected. That was going to happen no matter what, as long as it was within 10,000 votes. Political capital is meaningless when you have total and absolute control to begin with. The NC GOP cannot be voted out of power short of an election wave that turns literally the entire country blue. Evil Fluffy has issued a correction as of 01:50 on Nov 23, 2016 |
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Evil Fluffy posted:NC's not getting rid of the GOP's stranglehold. They could rise up and violently depose and execute the entirety of the NC GOP and all that'd happen is President Trump would wipe out half the state and then the RNC would install new GOP politicians. I pretty much agree with this. NC over the past four years is a sandbox for what the entire country will be like for the next four. People are not grasping the amount of power they have just handed the Republicans. This isn't merely a 'bad year' that democrats can bounce back from. They are a minor party now. This is a one party country now. This is Russia now. We now have a party in control that can win elections at all levels of government without a majority, and it will continue to gain legal tools to increase its power over time. What the people who voted 3rd party or stayed home have done is basically locked us down a path of permanent one party rule under a very lovely party until a great depression hits and a big enough blue wave happens for us to change stuff. Some people talk about this idea "oh there will be a crash and then we'll win" plan very lightly. You have to live through a depression. That means having to stay alive for three years while you wait for the next election, and then things still won't get fixed for another 8 years. It's not pretty.
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Mental-Rectangle posted:I pretty much agree with this. lol
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Permission to repost the op on FB with credit?
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Mental-Rectangle posted:I pretty much agree with this. OK are we at peak panic yet or does this rabbit hole go even deeper?
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Vox Nihili posted:OK are we at peak panic yet or does this rabbit hole go even deeper? Set low expectations and you can't be disappointed!
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https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/801481229627490304
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Mental-Rectangle posted:I pretty much agree with this. Thanks Hillary!
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 05:40 |
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Just a quick update here: http://www.wcnc.com/news/politics/elections/9700-votes-separate-ag-cooper-and-gov-mccrory/357349456 quote:The State Board of Elections Monday night ordered counties to proceed to canvass and dismiss the election protests filed by Governor Pat McCrory's campaign. All of McCrory's protests are now out. Tomorrow, the state board will decide whether or not they will do a recount of Durham County. If they weren't willing to give any of his protests any air, it's likely that's not happening either. State GOP still pushing the lie that dead people and felons voted: quote:After tonight's State Board of Elections decision, it is clear that most aspects of the 2016 election are ready to be concluded. We thank election officials across the state for their dedication to our system, and for their best efforts to ensure an accurate count of the votes. During the past month, we have seen the incredible strength of our voting system in North Carolina, as well as some serious shortcomings that must be addressed. These deficiencies encompass out-of-precinct voting, involves vote tallies of known felons and dead people, as well as allowing same-day registrants to vote without address verification. It is clear that we need serious bipartisan solutions to address these issues, which will still linger long after the current results are certified. But the SBOE coming down hard against McCrory appears to be on purpose; by not giving him any leeway, I think they're hoping to keep him from being able to petition the GA to call the election 'contested'. At this point, if McCheese were to say the election was contested, the only evidence they would have would be "We felt like it was." Cooper would take that to SCOTUS and basically have to win, or else elections would cease to have any meaning whatsoever.
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nc gop is now saying they won't use legislature to conclude the election, and the race is outside of a realistic recount margin. so it's all but wrapped up here
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