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"we don't want to remind people of the divisive primary fight" *attempts to engineer divisive primary fight* thanks obama
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Nonsense posted:you can post wherever the gently caress you want yeah but I was making fun of that one dude who keeps posting in the trump thread about how you shouldn't call people nazis. I post in both. I think arguing about anything online with FB people is counterproductive cause people will never admit they're wrong. Back in the election I tried to get someone to understand that their news story about an email from hillary was not from hillary, it was from a random spammer to Podesta. the email was talking about immigration in germany and racist as poo poo and the 'from address' was from some random email, and they still wouldn't budge an inch. you have to do the arguing in person and consistently. I think the Dems should spend some money hiring cult deprogrammers or something!
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https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/801248963986948096 Keith is Good
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comingafteryouall posted:yeah but I was making fun of that one dude who keeps posting in the trump thread about how you shouldn't call people nazis. I post in both. The cult of clinton is as strong as Reagan's, but not as idolatrous. Now that she's entered martyrdom, I don't see it going away, but maybe they'll just stay home.
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Obama has failed to advance a pro labor agenda, so he and his legacy can go take hike.
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According to this http://www.txed.uscourts.gov/page1.shtml?location=info:judge&judge=16 the following phone number is the court that federally appointed Texas judge, Judge Amos Mazzant. (903) 893-7008 He is the guy who just put the kibosh injunction on the overtime for salaried workers rule which richly fucks over anyone salaried making less than 47k a year. The lower middle class who need that loving money. Just in time for the holidays too!
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Nov 23, 2016 03:49
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This story makes me all the more excited about Ellison.
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Optimus Subprime posted:Obama has failed to advance a pro labor agenda, so he and his legacy can go take hike. 
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Nov 23, 2016 03:50
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punk rebel ecks posted:What does the DNC Chair do exactly? Hard to tell, at this point. comedy answer: Funnel funds to the Clinton Victory Fund and pick a crop of milquetoast opponents so their preferred ringer can knock them out by Super Tuesday. real answer: The chair is s'posed to be the head co-ordinator for the party, making sure that candidates across all levels and locations receive support from the "head office" in order to win their races. There's also some responsibility to make sure the party remains not ideologically "pure" but at least cohesive. But given the past few chairs you'd never know. Weltlich has issued a correction as of 04:02 on Nov 23, 2016 |
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Nov 23, 2016 03:58
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punk rebel ecks posted:What does the DNC Chair do exactly? fundraises and at least has some input on where the party's money is spent, if not having the most input there. also I guess you can try and rig the primary from the seat?
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punk rebel ecks posted:What does the DNC Chair do exactly? rig elections, piss everyone off
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:And uh *wipes brow* what will be the footwear dresscode for this project? Can't tell. 
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Bad corporate dems have failed again and again to produce real wins in elections. To use a football analogy would you keep the same head coach if he failed to produce good results each season? Bad corporation friendly dems are demanding that they be allowed to block progressives in the DNC even though they have no vision and have produced bad results in the downticket races. etalian has issued a correction as of 04:06 on Nov 23, 2016 |
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Dems should not be reaching out for rust belt low/middle class voters and their economic turmoil, because according to the absolute zero backlash that this salaried overtime rule injunction has generated, no one actually gives a poo poo about stuff that literally directly effects the pay of lower middle class workers.
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Captain Internet posted:Dems should not be reaching out for rust belt low/middle class voters and their economic turmoil, because according to the absolute zero backlash that this salaried overtime rule injunction has generated, no one actually gives a poo poo about stuff that literally directly effects the pay of lower middle class workers. Man, I sure know a bunch people on salary who are lower middle class!
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Weltlich posted:Man, I sure know a bunch people on salary who are lower middle class! See any retail manager.
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Weltlich posted:Man, I sure know a bunch people on salary who are lower middle class! Also corporation used the whole salary rule to rip off people in lower paying service jobs by not having to pay overtime.
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etalian posted:Also corporation used the whole salary rule to rip off people in lower paying service jobs by not having to pay overtime. See any retail manager.
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Fidel Castronaut posted:See any retail manager. Yeah it was the gist of it since they would classify supervisors as exempt and therefore not have to pay any overtime.
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Nov 23, 2016 04:11
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anime was right posted:ur a mathematician, harry lmao
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Ace of Baes posted:MSNBC should just give the keepin it 1600 dudes a prime time show. MSNBC should hand over the reins of the network to Will Menaker
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punk rebel ecks posted:What does the DNC Chair do exactly? national fundraising, strategy and other big picture stuff
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They also added keyholer positions to eliminate the higher paying manager roles and made up the lost hours on the remaining managers with introductory pay that was much lower than it was previously under the guise that their positions required less work because they had more supervisors per employee than before.
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punk rebel ecks posted:What does the DNC Chair do exactly? gets picked up angrily and then placed back down on the ground
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Captain Internet posted:Dems should not be reaching out for rust belt low/middle class voters and their economic turmoil, because according to the absolute zero backlash that this salaried overtime rule injunction has generated, no one actually gives a poo poo about stuff that literally directly effects the pay of lower middle class workers. Part of it is confusion over how to present the backlash, probably. A federal judge nominated by President Obama has blocked the ruling. Can't blame it on Republicans, can't blame it on Trump. The best they can do is point out that Obama tried and failed to do some good.
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blue squares posted:Part of it is confusion over how to present the backlash, probably. A federal judge nominated by President Obama has blocked the ruling. Can't blame it on Republicans, can't blame it on Trump. The best they can do is point out that Obama tried and failed to do some good. his loving administration's epitaph
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You can blame it on the republican judge who put in the injunction, not on Obama for trying to reach over the aisle.
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I'm pretty that was the outcome Obama wanted.
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Nov 23, 2016 04:37
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obama in his infinite wisdom tried to reach across the aisle and every time he did they slapped the back of his hand
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But luckily no one gives a poo poo, nothing matters, lol.
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Arghhhhhhh dems continue to be terrified of potentially becoming an actually-progressive party
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Polo-Rican posted:Arghhhhhhh dems continue to be terrified of potentially becoming an actually-progressive party The large amount of Est dems backing Ellison while Obama objects tells me that this is less about liberal versus leftists and more "I don't want to stop being in charge"
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perez is the opponent I fear the most because he can talk the talk and his department of labor has been trying many creative rulings to help workers but he's never really run an election campaign beyond the country level so that should be a huge liability plus progressive Trojan horse for establishment factor as well
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https://twitter.com/OurRevolution/status/801274345670574081 Obama and his legacy are going to be so widely disputed in the future.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:peter daou is also a literal war criminal I did not know this.
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Optimus Subprime posted:Obama and his legacy are going to be so widely disputed in the future. That would be true except we'll probably be too busy machete-ing each other for freshwater to argue about past presidents
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