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Paradoxish posted:Also you're going to spend a fortune defending those seats and probably lose them anyway because why vote for a Republican with a D next to their name when you can vote for one with an R? Because other things matter besides House and Senate seats, and the Republicans have been able to do incredible amounts of damage as well as building themselves powerful advantages in national elections by dominating state legislatures and governorships. Chomskyan posted:If Obama ratfucks the progressive left out of Keith Ellison as party chair, even after the Sanders/Warren wing made absolutely no attempt to take over the leadership of the Senate or the House, I may actually, fully give up on the Democrats I find it incredibly sad that progressives learned absolutely nothing at all from the utter debacle that was Republicans' kneejerk "oh no we lost, better pick an outsider with demographic appeal to convince gullible people we've fundamentally changed over the last three weeks" RNC pick in 2008.
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Darth Walrus posted:It's been said a million times, but Perez is also a fine, progressive candidate. This seems to simply be a dispute about whether to go with a relative rookie who can devote themselves full-time to the job or a more experienced campaigner who might have to split their energies.
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 13:23 |
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As a progressive, I'm not cool with being thrown "cookies" that may actually end up being harmful in the long run so that fucks like Schumer can stay in power. I want big Dem wins and a strong progressive agenda being pushed. I'm open to which candidate is better for accomplishing that.
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 13:39 |
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Posted this in Eastern Europe, but because it involves Trump, I'll post it here. The honeymoon with Russia is fading fast. The papers in Moscow are beginning to sound more cautious about Trump. https://twitter.com/BBCSteveR/status/801325888273059840
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Nikki Haley will be the UN Ambassador. Here is why: https://twitter.com/maggienyt/status/801391288335613952
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Mr Hootington posted:Nikki Haley will be the UN Ambassador. Here is why: https://twitter.com/maggienyt/status/801391288335613952 So the rewards are now in full swing and the media is currently trying to grovel at his feet and pretend that all this is normal. Cup Runneth Over posted:As a progressive, I'm not cool with being thrown "cookies" that may actually end up being harmful in the long run so that fucks like Schumer can stay in power. I want big Dem wins and a strong progressive agenda being pushed. I'm open to which candidate is better for accomplishing that. Agreed, but we need to chip away at the red state governments for that to have any chance of success. When state governments can reject free money out of spite like they did with the ACA, it's piss easy for Republicans to project programs as a failure to the uneducated. What's really pissing me off is that we aren't making a dent on the massive right wing propaganda machines that helped lead us to the point where nothing that doesn't help the GOP matters.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:As a progressive, I'm not cool with being thrown "cookies" that may actually end up being harmful in the long run so that fucks like Schumer can stay in power. I want big Dem wins and a strong progressive agenda being pushed. I'm open to which candidate is better for accomplishing that.
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 14:26 |
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I hope there are at least a lot of split-screen videos comparing the media in 2009 and 2017. "Going on a late night talk show just isn't very presidential"
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 14:30 |
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Geostomp posted:So the rewards are now in full swing and the media is currently trying to grovel at his feet and pretend that all this is normal. fwiw yes this is normal, every president has rewarded backers with for example amabassador or cabinet positions, this is just a reward that functions on top of it
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 14:31 |
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LeeMajors posted:As an SC resident, I can assure you this is a horrible pick. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/704751393991737345
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Gail Wynand posted:There's a pizza place in Upper Northwest DC near a lot of politicians' homes. It has a bit of a hipster vibe and hosts shows at night, but is popular with families during the day. The owner is David Brock's ex and seems to like kids, and everyone knows all gays are pedos. Also Tony Podesta hosts parties and fundraisers there occasionally. So this is enough evidence for the Infowars crowd to declare it the epicenter of Hillary's pedo ring. There have been demonstrations outside and the owners/staff are getting death threats left and right. We had a couple of staff parties at Comet Ping-Pong when I worked at The Podesta Group and my friend has a slice of Pizza named after him on the menu. I somehow did not know that James was David Brock's ex. Also, I never saw anyone molest any kids there, but I did see thousands of people jerking off over at Politics and Prose next door.
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 14:52 |
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It is really hard to foresee anything but horror from the Trump presidency. I don't know if this country will survive the next four years. I read about this in fiction all the time, but now it's actually happening. Holy poo poo.
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 14:56 |
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Pollyanna posted:It is really hard to foresee anything but horror from the Trump presidency. I don't know if this country will survive the next four years. Easily. How fragile do you think a country is, or conversely how much do you actually think human life matters?
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 15:03 |
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haveblue posted:Trump isn't going to have to repeal the overtime rules because they're going to have never gone into effect gently caress
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 15:05 |
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I bet payroll departments around the country are groaning so hard right now.
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 15:07 |
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haveblue posted:Trump isn't going to have to repeal the overtime rules because they're going to have never gone into effect Why is it that Republicans' entire platform is based on increasing human misery?
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FlamingLiberal posted:Considering the rumors about John Bolton I will take this Art Of The Deal!
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themrguy posted:How safe is Ellison's district? It's turbo-blue, right? He was on Keepin it 1600 this week and said that he won with like 70% last time, so he's probably safe barring a full on anti-Muslim assault from FoxNews.
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 15:21 |
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IS Henry McMaster bad?
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 15:23 |
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At this point, I'm almost more afraid of what would happen if the election was flipped by the courts than I am of what would happen if it's not. Minorities and LGBT folk are already being harassed by the Trumpers; if the courts "steal" the election for Hillary I could easily see many of those harassment cases escalating to outright murders.
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 15:27 |
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Geostomp posted:So the rewards are now in full swing and the media is currently trying to grovel at his feet and pretend that all this is normal. Rewarding campaign supporters with cushy jobs, especially when that comes with a partisan benefit is not normal? Im starting to think this "Dont normalize trump" thing has jumped the shark. Since when were nepotism, greed and racism not the foundation of the united states of america and its politics from day 1? Take a load off and just enjoy laughing at right-wing types as he MattD1zzl3 fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Nov 23, 2016 |
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LeeMajors posted:Why is it that Republicans' entire platform is based on increasing human misery?
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MattD1zzl3 posted:Rewarding campaign supporters with cushy jobs, especially when that comes with a partisan benefit is not normal? Im starting to think this "Dont normalize trump" thing has jumped the shark. Since when were nepotism, greed and racism not the foundation of the united states of america and its politics from day 1? Exactly, like I said the last 50-60 years is an aberration, this is how America has always been. FactsAreUseless posted:They believe misery makes people stronger and more morally righteous. Paulism is a loving cancer in Christianity
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 15:31 |
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LeeMajors posted:Why is it that Republicans' entire platform is based on increasing human misery? quote:On Tuesday, Mazzant, who was appointed by President Barack Obama, ruled that the federal law governing overtime does not allow the Labor Department to decide which workers are eligible based on salary levels alone.
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 15:31 |
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https://twitter.com/elianayjohnson/status/801263888058748928 Off to a good start!
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gently caress YOU Texas U.S. District Judge Amos Mazzant gently caress YOU TO DEATH gently caress YOU IN THE URETHRA WITH A RUSTY CARPENTER RASP http://thehill.com/policy/finance/307295-judge-blocks-obama-overtime-rule This will likely drag out until Trump is in power and he repeals the whole loving thing. Tim Krieder's cartoon is loving perfect.
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 15:32 |
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Kinda depressing the hill folk already have their knives out for Ellison. Not content with just losing us the elections, it looks like we're going to see 4 years of neolibs neolibbing.
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MattD1zzl3 posted:Rewarding campaign supporters with cushy jobs, especially when that comes with a partisan benefit is not normal? Im starting to think this "Dont normalize trump" thing has jumped the shark. Since when were nepotism, greed and racism not the foundation of the united states of america and its politics from day 1? Trump becoming a Bill Clinton who was just more open with being a horrible piece of poo poo when it comes to women might actually be the best we can hope for, ignoring the sweet, cold embrace of death.
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 15:36 |
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Mulva posted:Easily. How fragile do you think a country is, or conversely how much do you actually think human life matters? Lemme rephrase. The country itself will remain, but it will mutate. It's not gonna be like how we used to know it. I don't know if it will change for the better.
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shrike82 posted:Kinda depressing the hill folk already have their knives out for Ellison. But it's our demographic destiny!
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Young Freud posted:Posted this in Eastern Europe, but because it involves Trump, I'll post it here. The honeymoon with Russia is fading fast. The papers in Moscow are beginning to sound more cautious about Trump. Serious question, what happens if Putin goes out and says "Okay, I admit it: we hacked your voting machines and altered the count so that Trump won. Those people saying they found evidence are correct. We thought he'd be better and, frankly, we'd rather have Hillary."
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FactsAreUseless posted:They believe misery makes people stronger and more morally righteous. It's always nice to watch them torpedo the quality of life on this material plane in the interest of possible enrichment in their own theoretical afterlife.
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LeeMajors posted:It's always nice to watch them torpedo the quality of life on this material plane in the interest of possible enrichment in their own theoretical afterlife. It's even more ironic when you consider that very action supports the likely hood they go to hell.
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Covok posted:Serious question, what happens if Putin goes out and says "Okay, I admit it: we hacked your voting machines and altered the count so that Trump won. Those people saying they found evidence are correct. We thought he'd be better and, frankly, we'd rather have Hillary." Not much, Trump would still become President and the right would just go back hating Putin and all thing Russian.
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LeeMajors posted:It's always nice to watch them torpedo the quality of life on this material plane in the interest of possible enrichment in their own theoretical afterlife. Considering the massive and obvious sinner they supported in the last election I think their lovely policies are because they are just huge assholes that hate everyone. They don't really get the benefit of the doubt they are doing anything from a religious point of view anymore (unless you look at it from the perspective of religion to them just propagation of the worst aspects of white culture).
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MattD1zzl3 posted:Take a load off and just enjoy laughing at right-wing types as he rofl
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Glazier posted:Not much, Trump would still become President and the right would just go back hating Putin and all thing Russian. I'd be more interested in the left's response. He'd basically make them lose all faith in democracy working properly. As a matter of fact, I'm shocked he didn't do it just to gently caress democracy and make his hackers sound 1337.
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http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/albuquerque-police-illegally-deleted-altered-videos-of-police-shootings-report/quote:Albuquerque police illegally deleted, altered videos of police shootings
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botany posted:http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/albuquerque-police-illegally-deleted-altered-videos-of-police-shootings-report/ what do you know, body cams on their own are a poo poo solution to police brutality. if we don't strongly criminalize missing/doctored footage then cops will just erase or doctor footage to cover their asses. pushing for bodycams alone was more likely than not a handout to bodycam manufacturers, and the devices are probably not well designed at all nor capable of video tampering detection. Condiv fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Nov 23, 2016 |
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:health care lobbyist Hrm it says here that you worked as a healthcare lobbyist and are thus not pure enough.
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