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Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

I use ADS to take advantage of the generous ps4 aim assist

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New Concept Hole
Oct 10, 2012

東方動的
Pellet dispersion is constant and the spread determines where the dispersion pattern is centered.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

ScootsMcSkirt posted:

I never ADS as assault nor will I defile my great hipfire guns with a bayonet and anyone who does otherwise is a schmuck. Come at me goons.

Same. I tend to hit and kill people a lot faster just hipfiring than ADSing. I'll do it sometimes if it's long range but I have better luck just sg-ing people at long range from the hip.

Probably because I can't aim anymore :corsair:

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

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Just went 65-0 in the artillery truck

They kept complaining that I was sniping them with it. Ended up calling me a cheater. That feels real good

I feel like the arty truck is the most underrated vehicle in the game

Alehkhs
Oct 6, 2010

The Sorrow of Poets

Zzulu posted:

Just went 65-0 in the artillery truck

They kept complaining that I was sniping them with it. Ended up calling me a cheater. That feels real good

I feel like the arty truck is the most underrated vehicle in the game

I love to fire it at full rooftops. All those debris kills... :allears:

disjoe
Feb 18, 2011


DoctorStrangelove posted:

To reiterate: lol if you don't just alt+f4.

Hey now, sometimes I rage quit one mode to start another

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Zzulu posted:

Just went 65-0 in the artillery truck

They kept complaining that I was sniping them with it. Ended up calling me a cheater. That feels real good

I feel like the arty truck is the most underrated vehicle in the game

Arty truck is real good for stat padding and point whoring since it's one of the ones easiest to get kills in (yet generally not very helpful kills). But in terms of actual contribution to winning and pushing, it's bad and selfish. Arty truck can be good on Defense for that purpose of just widdling down tickets but real bad for Offense as Heavy or Landship is generally just much better as a rally-ing point for convincing your team to follow you in and wreck poo poo to move forward.

Gonkish
May 19, 2004

I really, really, really hate that you can permanently kill AA in Ops. I just saw a plane shitter go 125:2 because he instantly nuked every AA before anyone could get near it. Then he just farmed for the entire game, and my team was too loving dumb to shoot at the plane. I was the sole source of both of his deaths, one by an AA that lived just long enough for me to disable him and make him crash, and the other with the tankgewehr.

Basically, gently caress people for being too dumb to shoot at a loving plane that is farming endlessly.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

Boz0r posted:

Is there a Scout playstyle that's not being a gay sniper-camper? I want the hatchet, but that seems really boring.

To be honest, no, not without either buffing the Pederson 1903 or making it so you can lose a primary weapon in exchange for more flares, armor, grenades, pistol ammo. The play style for scout is encouraged to sit and be a sniping poo poo forever because close combat with bolt actions means you're being outclassed in volume of fire by literally everyone and ROF is usually King.

Generation Internet
Jan 18, 2009

Where angels and generals fear to tread.
Just shoot people in the body once with any rifle then switch to a pistol and spray them with wild hipfire to death.

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


My favorite dumb thing is when someone grabs a tank, drives it straight into a building, vectors it so that none of the guns can fire at anything and tries to kill something outside the combat area with the main cannon. Like some poo poo that's part of the skybox or something.

It's happened like three times so far.

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




Party Plane Jones posted:

To be honest, no, not without either buffing the Pederson 1903 or making it so you can lose a primary weapon in exchange for more flares, armor, grenades, pistol ammo. The play style for scout is encouraged to sit and be a sniping poo poo forever because close combat with bolt actions means you're being outclassed in volume of fire by literally everyone and ROF is usually King.

I generally just run around with the pistol when I want to be aggressive, which is almost always. You do get outclassed often, but the flares can help you get the jump on them. The Frommer Stop is probably the best spam pistol as it has an incredibly fast reload speed. I guess you could bring incendiary trip wires and try to finish off anyone who gets set on fire, but I always forget to use them.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

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Xaris posted:

Arty truck is real good for stat padding and point whoring since it's one of the ones easiest to get kills in (yet generally not very helpful kills). But in terms of actual contribution to winning and pushing, it's bad and selfish. Arty truck can be good on Defense for that purpose of just widdling down tickets but real bad for Offense as Heavy or Landship is generally just much better as a rally-ing point for convincing your team to follow you in and wreck poo poo to move forward.

Nah, I was on suez and I was single handedly destroying the enemy push whenever they tried to do anything. We're talking early on me having 20 kills while the next guy maybe had 5? Maybe I could have done the same in a heavy tank, but I doubt it. At one point an entire squad decided to get rid of me and the only reason I got away was because of the artillery trucks speed. A regular tank woulda been hosed

MadBimber
Dec 31, 2006
finally leveled support to 10, have all the unlocks now. huot is really low recoil but low mag, low damage, low fire rate makes it kinda garbage. c93 on the other hand, great pistol. fires fast, good hipfire, speedy reload, 9 shots. I like it a lot.

soy
Jul 7, 2003

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Xaris posted:

Arty truck is real good for stat padding and point whoring since it's one of the ones easiest to get kills in (yet generally not very helpful kills). But in terms of actual contribution to winning and pushing, it's bad and selfish. Arty truck can be good on Defense for that purpose of just widdling down tickets but real bad for Offense as Heavy or Landship is generally just much better as a rally-ing point for convincing your team to follow you in and wreck poo poo to move forward.

I really don't understand this mindset of "getting a lot of kills with a vehicle" is "stat padding" and somehow not anti-PTFO.

Killing the other team is the entire point of this game, you kill them, then you can take their poo poo.

It's not like you're killing mans that would otherwise just let you have the objective...

It's all good to do medic and give ammo out and I commend people for doing this, but if your team is not out-killing the other team then you are at a massive disadvantage.

The landship is a piece of poo poo grenade magnet with minimal offensive ability and nothing to deal with the swarms of assaults that will come out of every corner to rape you.

You don't need to waste a tank slot to have a spawn point. The spawn system in this game is so hosed up that you can spawn so easily on your squad with minimal restrictions.

That being said, if you aren't helping to secure your back flags and preventing flankers because you are a brainless pubbie who just wants to run around with the blob of other brainless pubbies then you are a piece of poo poo.

Also if you are a lovely sniper that's not even getting a lot of kills, stop doing that.

404notfound
Mar 5, 2006

stop staring at me

It's amazing the number of times that we get backcapped, and I'm at the spawn screen staring at literally my entire team moving farther and farther up while I'm the only one trying to reclaim our home points

Generation Internet
Jan 18, 2009

Where angels and generals fear to tread.
Yessss I got someone angrily accusing me of hacking in a fighter after he failed to comprehend my elite tactics of 'flying out of range of the AA' and 'trench dart a bomber as you accidentally ram it' leading to at least two people reporting me! :allears:

Tei
Feb 19, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 37 hours!
Had a superrelaxing game today. I was scout with the flare gun to spot poo poo. Started has squad leader, found a horse. I traveled from flag to flag, directing my minions and flareing the hell of the everything. My team turned into a anaconda devouring the childrens of the enemy team. It was that map with a big castle in the beach (Fao?), so we took their castle too. Enemy team got the ship, everyone mounted on ship and manned the canons of the castle. hehe. poor thing melted.

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




soy posted:

I really don't understand this mindset of "getting a lot of kills with a vehicle" is "stat padding" and somehow not anti-PTFO.

Killing the other team is the entire point of this game, you kill them, then you can take their poo poo.

It's not like you're killing mans that would otherwise just let you have the objective...

It's all good to do medic and give ammo out and I commend people for doing this, but if your team is not out-killing the other team then you are at a massive disadvantage.

The landship is a piece of poo poo grenade magnet with minimal offensive ability and nothing to deal with the swarms of assaults that will come out of every corner to rape you.

You don't need to waste a tank slot to have a spawn point. The spawn system in this game is so hosed up that you can spawn so easily on your squad with minimal restrictions.

That being said, if you aren't helping to secure your back flags and preventing flankers because you are a brainless pubbie who just wants to run around with the blob of other brainless pubbies then you are a piece of poo poo.

Also if you are a lovely sniper that's not even getting a lot of kills, stop doing that.

It depends on the game mode. In Rush or operations, you need to take points as attackers so killing your enemy doesn't equal your guys on the point. Defenders have unlimited tickets and can respawn very fast. Sometimes as a tanker you need to advance in points to alleviate the attention in your infantry and perhaps get some class changes.

If the enemy has tanks up and it's just wiping your infantry you need to destroy it or at least alleviate the attention from them.

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino
Panic hipfiring the Russian Sniper when someone runs round a corner into me when I'm capping a point is never not funny. Whats the best Op for me to try to farm 3 K bullet mortar kills to get that poo poo out the way?

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
Did they mix the Mondragon Storm and the level 10 Medic weapon up? because that rifle is no way worth locking behind any level.

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


Mostly I ads with a 2.0x zoom in my shotguns just to search out grey targets laying among grey debris laying in grey mud because I can't see poo poo. It's purely a recon feature and has zero to do with actual firing mechanics.

Pontificating Ass
Aug 2, 2002

What Doth Life?

SeanBeansShako posted:

Did they mix the Mondragon Storm and the level 10 Medic weapon up? because that rifle is no way worth locking behind any level.
A medic gun worth using would be a dream come true.

Prism
Dec 22, 2007

yospos

Xaris posted:

Arty truck can be good on Defense for that purpose of just widdling down tickets

So it helps with just pissing them away?

Delacroix
Dec 7, 2010

:munch:

Xaris posted:

Arty truck is real good for stat padding and point whoring since it's one of the ones easiest to get kills in (yet generally not very helpful kills). But in terms of actual contribution to winning and pushing, it's bad and selfish. Arty truck can be good on Defense for that purpose of just widdling down tickets but real bad for Offense as Heavy or Landship is generally just much better as a rally-ing point for convincing your team to follow you in and wreck poo poo to move forward.

It's map dependent. You see A7Vs 1/6 sitting back and making shots on Sinai or Empire's edge all the time, the default HE cannon is lenient and it can two shot infantry with canister shot from 120m away. Strictly on a capping basis the A7V and landship will often miss out on capping if an armoured car is ahead of them.

The artillery truck under the same circumstances can blow up a tank and drive in from 150m to contest a point in time. I frequently get flag defender or flags captured accolades in the arty truck. Or blow up every tank spawned by the other team.

On Suez or Ballroom Blitz, all tankers are going to stay away from C unless they're certain they can get away with it. The inclinations on the outside are good for hitting turret gunners on the blimp however!

SeanBeansShako posted:

Did they mix the Mondragon Storm and the level 10 Medic weapon up? because that rifle is no way worth locking behind any level.

The Huot for the support isn't cause for celebration either. It's fairly arbitrary, the pistols locked by class aren't super different other than aesthetic. I was disappointed by the howdah being a revolver with 50% less capacity instead of firing buckshot.

Speaking of bad maps with silly sightlines, I hate snipers who spend the match hugging the rocks on the opposite bank of A, especially if they're on my team. At least you can kill the enemy ones with a field gun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwNNbo5JGSY

Bob Wins
Oct 25, 2010

soy posted:


The landship is a piece of poo poo grenade magnet with minimal offensive ability and nothing to deal with the swarms of assaults that will come out of every corner to rape you.


"I trained for months at a secret facility to learn how to service and operate England's secret weapon to break the stalemate, the Mark IV landship. A state of the art 29 ton killing machine bristling with guns, cannons and armor. Having finally reached France we thundered towards the enemy lines. As we crossed over our trenches our friendly soldiers yelled "OMG NEWB" "ONLY NOOBS PICK LANDSHIP." "Heavy OR GTFO." and "GET GUD."

Thronde
Aug 4, 2012

Fun Shoe

Bob Wins posted:

"I trained for months at a secret facility to learn how to service and operate England's secret weapon to break the stalemate, the Mark IV landship. A state of the art 29 ton killing machine bristling with guns, cannons and armor. Having finally reached France we thundered towards the enemy lines. As we crossed over our trenches our friendly soldiers yelled "OMG NEWB" "ONLY NOOBS PICK LANDSHIP." "Heavy OR GTFO." and "GET GUD."

Landships look way cooler than Shoebox-on-steroids.

Bob Wins
Oct 25, 2010
They really need to find a way to nerf the Heavy and buff the landship. Even though the landship is like 300 times cooler the autocannon heavy (breakthrough variant) is better in every way possible.

K8.0
Feb 26, 2004

Her Majesty's 56th Regiment of Foot
It's one of the many areas they're just restricted by subject matter. There's no real way to "fix" the Heavy tank, it's just badly designed. Either it's a deathtrap and not worth getting in, or it's not a deathtrap and people get in it and it has no vulnerable angles. The landship could be fixed by making it a 2 person vehicle, with one person controlling both side guns and increased turret traversal speed.

Delacroix
Dec 7, 2010

:munch:
If they made it so that every corner and angled slope of the A7V didn't deflect shots that would be nice.

A tank that isn't invulnerable 75% of the time would be an improvement in the right direction but dice should have known the landship is inferior on paper. It is going to be the easiest vehicle in the game to mobility disable, the slowest land vehicle in the game and have gigantic blindspots like no other.

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

the frommer stop auto for pilots and tankers is absolutely hilarious. The gun shoots so loving fast that you have almost no control over it and you're just wildly spraying bullets in front of you

It's a WW1 G18, I love it and thank dice for not giving it to recons like they did in BF3.

Delacroix fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Nov 24, 2016

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

the frommer stop auto for pilots and tankers is absolutely hilarious. The gun shoots so loving fast that you have almost no control over it and you're just wildly spraying bullets in front of you

Backhand
Sep 25, 2008

Delacroix posted:

The Huot for the support isn't cause for celebration either. It's fairly arbitrary, the pistols locked by class aren't super different other than aesthetic. I was disappointed by the howdah being a revolver with 50% less capacity instead of firing buckshot.

I like the Howdah, though. It's a two-shot kill, has really accurate hipfire at close range, and can empty all four barrels super fast. When somebody rounds the corner, give a quick double tap and down they'll go. I kinda like to think of it as the new Shorty 12G.

Of course, the problem with that is that assault is already the close-range specialist class, so your primary most likely does just fine at close range already....

Red Mundus
Oct 22, 2010
Please help I can't stop using the trench periscope. It's amazing to highlight a group of flanking enemies and then watch as pubbies immediately turn around and light them up.

Also it gives off a glimmer similar to a sniper's scope and I just had a 10 minute "duel" with another sniper because of it. Highlight was when 3 snipers simultaneously were firing at my periscope. :allears:

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

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Bob Wins posted:

They really need to find a way to nerf the Heavy and buff the landship. Even though the landship is like 300 times cooler the autocannon heavy (breakthrough variant) is better in every way possible.
Squad Support is really pretty drat good with 2 gunners. The advantage is they have two tank cannons which can basically point forward and can wreck poo poo real fast both hitting almost the same target, and the front MG can mow down infantry so much faster than a tank cannon; whereas autocannons are more towards the side and can't aim as far forward so you generally got 1 guy unable to shoot at much of anything and the side gunner cant really hit the same thing you can with the front gun. I do like the Breakthrough and go it a lot when it's just me and my friend, but Squad Support is generally more fun and sometimes more effectiv if you got a party of 3 or more

Heavy just needs emergency repair nerfed by 2x as long CD. Even as a tank whore myself, it's up ridiculously quick all the drat time. Reminds me of BC2 Smoke on helicopter where you could pop it comically fast

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
Landship is pretty decent if your talking and working with your squad.

Pubbies really just need to learn if you want to gently caress with people in a tank without contributing or relying on the squads team work angle, just spawn a light tank kay?

Eatpants
Jan 26, 2012
Anybody playing hardcore mode? There are a couple good servers "banzore.com". Hardcore with minimap/friendly tags and killfeed.

Knight007au
May 8, 2007
Decided to get the with the sale, what are the first things I should be getting with early warbonds?

Pharmaskittle
Dec 17, 2007

arf arf put the money in the fuckin bag

Knight007au posted:

Decided to get the with the sale, what are the first things I should be getting with early warbonds?

First shotgun, next shotgun, repeat

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
When you can use it as a medic, I strongly suggest the Mondragon Storm. SMG wise go for the Automatico Trench if you don't give any fucks about mid range and just want to dump a mag close range too.

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K8.0
Feb 26, 2004

Her Majesty's 56th Regiment of Foot

Knight007au posted:

Decided to get the with the sale, what are the first things I should be getting with early warbonds?

Autimatico Trench, 10-A Hunter (factory is fine earlier).
1907SL Trench, Mondragon Sniper, Mondragon Storm.
BAR Trench, MG 15 NA Suppressive.
SMLE Carbine, G95 Carbine.

Those are the only guns you really ever need. Unfortunately you can't get them all early.

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