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Interesting to note that in the post game roundup, it says that Shannon died on a different twilight than George. Someone has to be faking their deaths here. Also, are these murders all taking place in a single day? Are twilights supposed to be the individual hours on the clock that we keep seeing?
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EagerSleeper posted:Interesting to note that in the post game roundup, it says that Shannon died on a different twilight than George. Someone has to be faking their deaths here. Shannon, George and Gohda died around the same time. The Twilights were done out of order this round. With people dying earlier then others then having their bodies disfigured after the fact to match up with certain twilights. Anyway ton of mysteries this time around.
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So #th Twilight means any loving time in any order, gently caress riddles. Gonna be funny when Battler solves this stupid mess with gingerbread men or something though.
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Fabulousvillain posted:So #th Twilight means any loving time in any order, gently caress riddles. Gonna be funny when Battler solves this stupid mess with gingerbread men or something though. It wouldn't be that surprising if the epitaph riddle had absolutely nothing to do with the murders and Beatrice is just focusing on misdirection. I mean, the murders aren't really a riddle. Or rather, how they were done is kind of a riddle, but not one that really relates to the epitaph.
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SardonicTyrant posted:This is a very interesting scene, because until this post, I've accepted everything Battler has experienced as the only thing we can truly trust. But Battler's kind of drunk here, so should we, the viewers, accept that Beatrice's explanations explained everything? The key here is that "everything Battler has experienced" is not "everything the reader has experienced". We still don't know the explanations to everything that happened here, just that Battler - assumedly, game-Battler, but possibly meta-Battler, too - accepts them as "logical". He may have made that choice under the influence of something, or out of duress and desperation to just end the suffering that is this clusterfuck of a game, we're not told that. Just that Battler conceded defeat. Battler is given answers. We are not. Interestingly, it openly says that Rosa denied the witch. I wonder if she's going to get everyone grimdark'd like Battler did in the first go around.
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 October 5th, 1986, 11:59 PM  BGM: Fishy Aroma Rosa finally arrived at the chapel. She pointed her gun around her, screaming the witch's name, but there was no way there would be an answer.  It was very heavy, but Rosa didn't mind. She wrapped that one up in a blanket, and threw it over her shoulder.  "At least... with just this one... Just this should be worth more than 10 million..."Without letting go of her gun, Rosa also carried the gold. Her shoulders were screaming. but Rosa didn't mind.  "...Kihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihi. It will happen very soon. ...Very soon, the door to the Golden Land... will open." "Stop laughing with that creepy voice!! Where is Beatrice?! Yeah, you know, she's somewhere, right?! You know, right?! Where?!" "Kihihihihihihihihihihihi. I don't kno-w. Even if you don't search for her, you can meet her in the Golden Land. Kihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihi, ouch." "Stop that laugh!! Aaah, it almost makes me want to laugh!! That's right, that was definitely a witch, definitely a witch!! I didn't understand, I thought it was a human calling herself a witch, I was wrong!!!" "I told you, she'll appear very soon. The door to the Golden Land will be opened. Kihihihihihihihihihihihi..." BGM: Scorpion Entrails  "At least call me a queen. Hoh, what a brilliant move. So your blood, no, Ushiromiya's blood is bad at giving up." "...How pleasant! Truly an elegant night. Ku-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-ha...!!" "...Master, Beatrice-sama. It will soon be time for the banquet." "Already? That's fast. Every night I pass with you goes by fast, the moon falls like an apple, and the sun leaps out of the river like a small fish." "Shall we go, it is time. Stand Battler. It is the beginning of the banquet to celebrate my revival. I'll introduce you as my new furniture... no, as my toy. To the dignitaries among witches."The witch was relaxing elegantly, her feet thrown out from the sofa and sitting on top of a footrest.   "...Beatrice-sama, your silk dress." "You are the guest of honor, but I am the host. I will go out first. It would have been nice if Shannon were here to help dress you, but, unfortunately, it seems that she no longer remains." "...She's never around when I want to use her. A completely useless person. However, you did well to remain here. I'm happy, my friend." "...I am grateful for your words." "Good. Wait downstairs, you two. Genji, good work, set the dress down over there." "...Certainly. Well then, Master." "We will go first. Beatrice, I will see you later." "Indeed." "...Do you know why I am not embarrassed to show myself to you naked...?" "..." "It's because you are furniture. Fu-rniture. Understand? Furniture, just fu-rniture! Who would feel shame at exposing their body to furniture? So there is no reason for me to feel shame because of you. *cackle*cackle*cackle*cackle*cackle*!"When the witch stood up, her jacket slipped off, just from her shoulders. After that, the jacket fell to the ground with a thump. When the furniture respectfully approached to pick up those clothes, the witch gave it a small kick and it fell over. The furniture was afraid of what misconduct it had shown... "Do you, as furniture, plan to force me to unbutton myself? Stand. And undo the buttons. One by one, politely. Quickly. Beautifully. With no mistakes. The guests are being kept waiting, change my clothes quickly." "...Yes..." "*cackle*cackle*cackle*cackle*cackle*, kakakaka, hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-ha!! Undo them politely. Those buttons are each worth more than one of your eyeballs. If you make a mistake and break them, I'll sow your eyeballs in instead... *cackle*cackle*cackle*cackle*cackle*cackle*cackle*cackle*cackle*cackle*!!" The gentlemen in suits and tuxedos and the ladies in dresses looked like they were having a great number of friendly chats. At a glance, it might have looked like a fabulous medieval ball. But they all had one thing in common, and that thing was exceedingly bizarre. ...Because all of them... had goat heads. I don't know whether it was a goat mask masquerade, or whether they really had goat heads. It probably couldn't be the latter, but in this bizarre world, I really didn't know which was true...  Kinzo's greetings were more respectful than would have been expected, as though these were all honored guests. At that time, Genji's voice rang out through the hall. It was a voice calling for silence. That voice stopped the voices of idle chatter, and everyone turned to face Genji.  When Genji began to applaud, it quickly spread through the guests, and became thunderous applause. And... the Golden Witch appeared from the top of the large staircase... As she gracefully waved her hand, followed by the furniture she liked, she slowly descended the staircase... The goat nobles offered unanimous words of celebration in some long-forgotten language. And those who were deeply intimate embraced, filled with joy at their reunion. As the witch offered greetings of reunion, the witch's furniture followed behind her the whole time.  The chains weren't there to restrain it. The chains were a restraining device whose only purpose was to injure the furniture's dignity... He wasn't permitted to wear anything else on his body. One of the young woman goats mixed in with the goat nobles, softly removed her goat mask as the furniture passed in front of her, and spoke with eyes that had no light in them. That face... looked like it belonged to a long-haired, young girl...  "O-h, Lady Bernkastel. Welcome. Do you like my furniture?" "...Good taste."After saying only that, the witch called Bernkastel once again put on her goat mask, and was sucked in by the shadows of the other tall goats... "Ahahahahahahaha... Sore loser. She's irritated." "You're right. *cackle*cackle*cackle*cackle*cackle*cackle* *cackle*cackle*cackle*cackle*!"The young women goats giggled, and the witch once again let out a high-pitched laugh.   "Come, we will eat all night, drink all night, slurp all night, and chew to bits all night as we enjoy ourselves!! Look at the clock, it shows the time when the ending hour and the beginning hour melt together, ...come!! Let us begin the banquet of the witch!!!"When the witch proclaimed the beginning of the banquet, the large clock pointed to 24:00, and the sound of a bell began to ring out...  "Come... now is the time!! Open the golden door...!!!"All at once, the butterflies leafed in gold flew all around the inside of the room.  Amidst the goats' delighted voices, the mansion of the human world and the mansion of those not human overlapped... and the members of the household that praised the resurrection of the Golden Witch scattered into gold butterflies, and poured out of the depths of hell... It was... a golden tornado. A rondo of golden demons. Come, tonight we will put aside rank. Throw open the wine cellar, drop the snake's head into the liquor pot, throw cows and chickens into the furnace alive, drink and eat and sing and dance, sneer and kill and desecrate and degrade!!  The goat nobles were suddenly crushing in around Kinzo. Almost like they were kids demanding the signature of some famous movie star. There were two differences. First, they were witches, not kids. And second, what the witches demanded were not signatures. The sea of goat nobles began to drown Kinzo. Only Kinzo's laughing voice echoed throughout the area.  An aroma if slurped, a rich taste if gnawed, and pleasant to tear to bits! The voice of his death throes lingered on sweetly, if you adorn melted chocolate with a golden argent, it would be a wonderful dessert! If you took the bones home, you could also use them in a soup, and the remains could even become toys for the children to play with, and they could also become good tools for fortune-telling that always gave misfortune! That entire scene... was watched by the furniture. It was all fantastical. ...It was all demonic. Was the quaking of its heart, which should have been paralyzed... proof that it could still feel fear? At that time, its knees buckled, and the furniture's body fell onto the center of the carpet. Because the witch had kicked those knees from behind.  "...u... ah..."The furniture let out a painful voice. Fear is the most basic emotion humans have. Was that emotion reviving his sense of self, which should already have been killed? "...Hmph. So, you are still far from being appropriate for my furniture. Good! I will carefully finish you, to make you the kind of furniture I like, the kind appropriate only for me. Is the best you can do now simply entertaining the guests?!"The goat nobles were surrounding the crouching furniture... It seemed that their blazing, blood-red eyes couldn't hide their ecstasy at this new young food that they had been given. And from the ugly teeth that stuck out of countless mouths, saliva, ...or maybe the traces of meat and wine that they had just eaten, dribbled down...  As the furniture let out a wild scream, it retreated, still sitting on its backside. But the circle of goat nobles was closing in... And the furniture looked at the witch's face. It had surrendered to the witch, so believing that the witch would have some compassion, it stared at her face in the end. But there was nothing but scorn on the witch's face, and she wasn't even facing the furniture anymore. The witch went off to greet an honored guest with whom she had crossed gazes... The goat nobles looked down upon the furniture. They had truly been waiting. Just like how one must remove the cork in order to drink champagne, before bringing the offering served at the banquet to their mouths, they were waiting for just one of those. Of course, the furniture didn't know about those. But it came out of his mouth all by itself. Just like there is certainly a pop when the cork comes out, it certainly came out of his mouth. "...G... ya... ahiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!"――A scream. It was a sign that the modest banquet at which he was to be served... had begun.   Video: Ushiromiya Rosa's Last Stand BGM: Worldend Dominator By now the rose garden was a garden of roses and gold. A gold-colored garden where gold butterflies, gold fairies, and gold lizards rampaged and flew about wildly. "Maria, quickly!! Run!! Quickly quickly quickly quickly!!"Rosa held onto the blanket wrapped around the ingot and the gun, and ran at a speed Maria couldn't catch up with, sometimes pausing to call out at Maria to run faster. Therefore, she saw it every time. She saw the golden pursuers chasing them from the mansion!  There was no need for her to strain her eyes. Because those blazing pupils told her what would happen if she was captured.  "...Mama, wait, Mama, wait... uu-uu-... ow!!"Maria fell down. For just an instant, Rosa was ashamed by her thoughts of abandoning her daughter and running away, and at the instant her feet touched ground, she ran back.   "Mamaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!"Rosa rammed into the goat head with her shoulder, spun, bashed the back of her elbow into the goat's jaw, and buried her knee into its protruding chest!! And she thrust the barrel of the gun inside the goat head's mouth as it doubled over from the pain in its gut!  The blast from the Winchester's 45 caliber Long Colt bullet exploded inside the goat head's throat, and its medulla oblongata was instantly pulverized. The goat head hadn't understood. It had thought that women were like already opened wine bottles! It had thought that they were wine bottles, and that turning them upside down would immediately cause their deep-red contents to come out! "Mama!! Mamaaaaaa!!"Maria, who had been released, hugged Rosa. But the pursuers were still coming! They could see the giant goat heads, who had given up pretending to be human, running towards them from across the rose bushes. Rosa spilled several extra bullets, which had been in the pocket of her coat, all over the place, and told Maria to pick them up.  "Y, yes...! Pick up, pick up...!!" "Maria. If Mama falls down, run. Go to the shore. And swim, and swim, and swim! There's no place on this island that we can survive on!!" "N, no!! Together with Mama!! Uuu--!!" The goats ran with a violent vigor, as though they planned to crush Rosa and Maria with those massive bodies!! "Put the bullet in!! Quickly!!" "U, uu-!!"Rosa grasped the blanket with the ingot in both hands, and she herself sprinted, pulling it along!! Without even an ounce of fear of those strange-looking giants!! If it's to protect my daughter, I'll overcome even hell!!  Rosa's roar. The goat heads' roar. The terribly heavy ingot, after picking up a terrible centrifugal force and speed, slammed into the head of the goat head. Rosa pulled a fountain pen from her pocket. But she held it crooked. She placed it in her palm, in the gap between her middle finger and her ring finger so that it stuck out when she made a fist, almost like it was a stinger growing out of her fist. That stinger sliced into the left eye of the goat head as it fell over. Was the goat head's roar a scream?  She pulled back her fist and slammed it into the fountain pen that was still sticking into the goat head's eye. The pointed tip was gouged into the depths of its head...!  "Mama, put bullet in!!" "Good job!!"When I grabbed the gun Maria had thrown, the giant finally tumbled on the ground with a thunderous crash. However, at the same time, I saw the goat head pursuers on the other side of the rose bushes increase in number. I've gained enough distance for now! I held onto the blanket wrapped around the ingot and the gun, and once again ran with Maria.  Why don't I let go with one hand and grasp Maria's hand...?!! I can't let go of the gun that protects my body. I can't let go of the gold that protects my future. But even so, I let go of the hand of my daughter, the person who is my future...?!  She got out of the rose garden and began to run down a staircase through a grove of trees. But Rosa knew. This path through the grove turned and twisted many times, and only seemed long. She tore straight through it! She had always played here since she was a kid. So she knew! To the beach. To the beach. To the sea, to the sea, to the sea. And after reaching the sea? Nothing to do but swim, swim, swim, if Maria can't swim, I'll carry her as I swim!! There is nothing but death on this island!   "Mamaaaa?!"As she raced down the stairs, she took a bad step. A violent pain ran up her left ankle and her mind went completely blank. Rosa fell down several stairs, shocked by her ankle, which was bent at an odd angle. And the blanket with the ingot wasn't there. She had let go of it the instant she fell, and it had disappeared somewhere into the darkness. Only the gun was left. Tremors in the earth were getting closer. It was only a matter of time before the goat heads flooded in. She didn't want to imagine how many there would be, or how strange they would look.  The gold butterflies surrounded Rosa and Maria, waving and clamoring as though saying 'the prize is here, the prize is here'. Rosa couldn't even try to get up. The violent pain from her broken ankle was so great that she couldn't ignore it, even in her last moments. Aaaaaaaaaaaaah, what am I doing... I'd had the gold, which would have been worth several million yen. I might have been able to start over with that!! And yet I fell, lost it, and that's not all, my own life is in danger, even Maria's life is in danger?! What has my life been?!!! I was born in an incomprehensible house! With an irritating older brother and sister since the day I was born!! What did I do?! No matter what I did or didn't do, I was always in trouble and bullied and made fun of!! What has my life been?!?!   "..."The roar inside Rosa's heart shriveled away and disappeared. It disappeared when she listened to Maria's crying voice, as she sobbed and clung onto Rosa.  "...Maria. Mama remembered that there's something she has to do. Please go on ahead." "No, no no no no!! Want to be with Mama!! Don't want Mama to die!!" "Maria... even though I'm such a bad Mama... you still say you want to be with Mama?" "Yes...! Want to be with Mama... want to be with Mama...!"  "...Are you saying... that you even want to be together with that kind of Mama...? Even though... I've been such a bad Mama...!!"  "...The Maria who's in a good mood that you want to spoil, and the Maria who's a nuisance and you don't want to be around, aren't different people. Maria is also just one Maria. So both the scary Mama and the nice Mama are together. To Maria... there is just one... Mama..." The shadows of the goats covered the sky even more than the trees of the forest. Their roars blotted out the world with fear. Rosa, still hugging Maria, readied her gun with one hand. "Maria, let's go together. Always together. So that Mama doesn't get lost, always together...!" "Yes...!! Be able to meet soon. Always together...!! Be able to meet, in the Golden Land...!! And then we'll play together! Play with the 'Wolves and Sheep Puzzle'!! Mama hasn't solved more than one question, but Maria has solved them all. So Maria will be the questioner!!"She had bought that as a birthday present, and then hadn't played it for Maria after that night.   Those eyes, sparkling like red-hot lava, looked just like a group of fireflies. They danced, closed in, and attacked.    GAME OVER Quinn2win fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Nov 23, 2016 |
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The profiles page has been updated. It seems that the second game has ended, once again, in Beatrice's complete victory.
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I think Rosa and Maria's headshots were swapped on this line: "...Are you saying... that you even want to be together with that kind of Mama...? Even though... I've been such a bad Mama...!!" drat, though.
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Honestly, before the LP I would have sworn up and down that WorldendDominator was first used in this scene, so closely has the song become connected with Rosa going apeshit on an army of demon goats with the fandom. Rosa Musou!
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ProfessorProf posted:
I love this whole scene enough that it's pretty much my number one reason for not entirely hating Rosa
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I think this is the closest thing we get to a H scene in Umineko.
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tiistai posted:I love this whole scene enough that it's pretty much my number one reason for not entirely hating Rosa Yeah... It's really surprisingly touching, out of all this craziness, to see a genuine reconciliation between Rosa and Maria, and an acknowledgement that it's all been the same people, and not a "bad witch". It doesn't totally absolve Rosa of the abuse we've seen, but it does show that healing is still possible. And speaking of abuse... let's talk about Beatrice's abuse of the narrative, because we have gone from dipping into the bullshit fanfic well to throwing ourselves in there headfirst. Someone's grimdark fantasy has superseded this narrative, and it isn't Maria's, because we know what her fantasy is and it's nothing like this. It's all rainbows and flowers and mothers who don't hit you so much; we've seen as much in her notebook and her reaction this update clinches it- she's just as horrified at goatmen trying to eat her as anybody, because it isn't beautiful and pain-free. And it's not just a clash of genre and tone I'm talking about either, it's the complete disregarding of the rules, especially after Beato made such a big deal about how honest and fair she is. Because that silly epitaph is thrown to the winds, and the order of the Twilights is the least of it: what happened to the river with sweet fish? What happened to praising the witches name on the 3rd twilight? The last ritual had that, half-assed as it was! At least this time around, everyone seemed to get what they really wanted, before being devoured by the goats- and why did that happen, when it seemed like Piece-Battler submitted to the witch just fine (or did he? The game is very conspicuously not showing his portrait after he asked the witch her questions, and I don't think that's an accident...)? This is all the will of Beatrice, but... how many Beatrices are there, exactly? Because I count at least four: Kinzo's Lost Lenore that he upholds and pines over but cannot see; Maria's playmate who taught her about magic and the Golden Land; the regal island spirit trapped here that appeared to Shannon and gave her encouragement; and the dark and twisted trollbeast who wants to burn it all down. And then we got Player Beatrice in Purgatory, who seems like all of these at once depending on the situation, which is weird, because they all seem in direct contradiction with each other, and only one moment seems genuine: her freakout after Shannon said she was in love and she couldn't change that. So what gives, exactly? Is this really about revenge on the man who trapped her, or the fulfillment of a deal, or to grant the wish of a little girl for a happy family, or to torture some red headed git because he doesn't believe in magic? What is this all really about? vv Yeah, I'd better mention that too, because that was some really good "do not go gentle" stuff from Rosa at the end, drat 
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resurgam40 posted:What is this all really about? I think, for the moment, this is all about Rosa going and staring down an army of goat butlers with a shotgun, a giant gold ingot, and a ballpoint pen.Which is to say, we've got more information than we did at the end of the first chapter, but not as much as we need. That said, Beato's reaction to Battler's freakout at the very end there (as well as the profiles, in their own way) implies that she wants him to keep fighting, at least one part of her. KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Nov 23, 2016 |
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 My friends tried to warn me about the banquet scene. I didn't listen. I didn't listen......
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I forgot exactly how hosed the banquet scene was, hot drat. At least that let me go into Rosa's Do Not Go Gently scene somewhat fresh; that's such a good scene, after all. I think there's only a few updates left before I'm finally getting into stuff I've never seen, which is exciting! I love seeing what this game throws at the player.
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EagerSleeper fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Nov 24, 2016 |
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The switch to first person was unexpected. I wonder what it means. Also, wow, poo poo sure did go down. I'm confused by the profiles saying that the Idiot messed everything up again, because Battler certainly seemed to surrender there. On the other hand Beatrice is a huge jerk so who even knows. I also wonder what the next chapter is going to feature. I kind of thought meta-Battler vs Beato was going to be a thing for a while, but no, meta-Battler has already lost.
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Again, the man is objectively incompetent, I don't know what you were expecting!
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To be fair, Beato mentions that since he was showing fear at getting eaten, he wasn't completely broken yet - and thus could potentially still return to his stubborn denials and have another match.
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 The best thanksgiving gift.
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Qrr posted:The switch to first person was unexpected. I wonder what it means. Maybe we will play with Meta Rosa now.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Maybe we will play with Meta Rosa now. I think that already happened. Relatedly, I hear the new Doom remake is selling like gangbusters.
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the fan game based off this section of this section of Umineko, called Rosa Musou.quote:Maria has been kidnapped by goats. Are you mom enough to save her? https://youtu.be/xQFQRlN2q1w <-- Link to a game play video for the curious. Minor spoilers for something small we haven't seen before, but honestly nothing bad. Pretty hilarious game overall.
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EagerSleeper posted:I'm surprised no one has mentioned the fan game based off this section of this section of Umineko, called Rosa Musou. Well it reveals the character designs of the rest of the stakes which admittedly isn't a big deal but watching this will likely also cause Umineko videos to show up in the recommended bar which you'll probably want to avoid
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It's interesting that Genji doesn't even get eaten on-screen. Maybe he actually is some kind of goat-demon?
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KataraniSword posted:I think that already happened. Goatmen in suit have huge guts. 
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Glazius posted:It's interesting that Genji doesn't even get eaten on-screen. Well, he did wish for a peaceful sleep, after all. I guess being eaten by goats could disturb that a bit.
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I like how Rosa has provided Maria with a well-rounded childhood, apparently having taught her to reload a gun? Maybe she took Maria with her on a business trip to Texas once.
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  Rosa awoke from her doze. It must have been a very deep sleep. Her mind was hazy, and she wasn't thinking clearly. Where is this...? It felt like some mansion, but it didn't seem to be the Ushiromiya mansion. She could see a room that looked like a parlor... And there was some tea that had been prepared. It had probably been made for her.  BGM: Rest When she eventually realized that they were gold butterflies, it further strengthened that impression. There was someone across from her. A woman. A lady.  She seemed to be having a one-sided conversation. She was probably talking to Rosa, but Rosa, whose mind was clouded up by a deep fog, didn't have a clue what was being said... "...Choose whatever you please. If there is anything you want, I'll give it all to you. You can think of it as a reward for your good luck, or else as proper compensation for how you've answered to my demands." "It may have been a truly trivial matter from your perspective. However, the deal was important enough to me to be deserving of this reward."...What is she... talking about? I don't know... I don't know. "It's just that... I am very much a witch. Perhaps you'd best ask for something only a witch can give you." "What a rare chance this is. To actually receive the favor of Beatrice the Golden, me. *cackle*cackle*!" "...Nng..." "I am commonly called the Golden Witch. Bestowing a mountain of gold, like the one I gave Kinzo, is trivial to me. After all, you can measure all the pleasures of the human world with money. Therefore, gold is no more or less than the manifestation of the human world's pleasures." "Can you imagine it? A mountain of gold that you couldn't use up as long as you lived."As the witch blew on her pipe, multi-colored smoke enshrouded their surroundings.  It looked like a shining gold-colored wall. If each ingot was worth several ten million yen, how much would all of this be worth? It seemed sinful to even think of such a number.  "...However, the human world is difficult. I know there are some things that cannot be settled, no matter how high into the sky you pile up gold. I know there are cracks that cannot be filled. I won't make light of that, which is why this is a gift that only a witch such as I can give." "...Why don't I fill those cracks in for you? Yes, how about this. It's something only I can give. You should be very happy." "...No need to thank me out loud. I can tell right away. It's written on your face and in the corners of your heart, *cackle*cackle*!"Rosa felt a touch of discomfort at this witch, who kept on talking even though Rosa hadn't uttered a single word, but since she still couldn't manage to speak...and was so helpless that it was difficult to even move a finger, she couldn't do anything but listen.  "...This is... deep... quite deep indeed. Sometimes, wounds close up while a fragment of foreign matter remains inside. Even when such wounds appear to have healed, they continue to throb for all eternity. Sometimes, you have to open the wound once more in order to heal it completely."As the witch spoke, she stared deep into Rosa's eyes. What in the world... was she peering at? Rosa felt uncomfortable, but she couldn't look away. "...So, your pain was already fated by the time of your birth. How heart-breaking. You don't have to say it. I understand. I understand..."Rosa was gradually being sucked into the witch's eyes. Then, the world grew dark, spinning round and round as she was sucked in...  BGM: Daydream's EndOh, that's Krauss nii-san's voice. Krauss nii-san is a real adult, so he's very smart. So he hated the stupid kid, Rosa. He was a very scary person. I was often hit, and my toys were taken from me and broken. I was apparently being punished for something bad I'd done, but I never really understood what it was, or why I was being punished. I was always punished suddenly and then later told what the punishment was for, in a forced manner, but it was always something I didn't remember doing. ...So I really hated Krauss nii-san.  Oh, that's Eva nee-san's voice. Eva nee-san is a real adult, so she's very smart. So she hated the stupid kid, Rosa. She was always a very sly person, and she often lied to me, tricked me, bullied me all the time. Apparently I was stupid, and she said it was only natural for stupid people to be swindled by those smarter than them. So I wanted to become a wise person like Eva nee-san, and listened to what she said, but when I obeyed her, for some reason, someone always got really mad at me. ...So I really hated Eva nee-san.  Oh, that's Rudolf nii-san's voice. Rudolf nii-san really knows how to get things done. So he hated the stupid kid, Rosa. When Krauss nii-san was around, he would be friendly with Krauss nii-san. When Eva nee-san was around, he would be friendly with Eva nee-san. And when Krauss nii-san wasn't around, he would be violent like Krauss nii-san, and when Eva nee-san wasn't around, he would play dirty like Eva nee-san. And even though he was also bullied most of the time, when Krauss nii-san and Eva nee-san weren't around, he gave me two people's worth of bullying. ...So I really hated Rudolf nii-san.  It's common for unfair things to happen between kids. And you mustn't hold onto grudges for such things forever. With time, those memories get buried away, and forgetting them bit by bit is supposed to be part of growing up and becoming an adult. So becoming an adult is the same as separating yourself from all those memories. And because of that. No matter how much time passed, Rosa couldn't become an adult. Even though she had been blessed with a daughter called Maria and was called a mother, she didn't at all feel like she had become an adult. The witch pitied her for that. And she smiled, saying that she could heal that pain herself.  "But that way, your 'memories of being hurt by your older siblings' wouldn't remain, and in that sense, while you might call it a gift, you wouldn't be able to accept it." "A person is only satisfied when their starvation is healed. But if you make it so they never starved in the first place, none of them will thank you. Just like how there are no young people who give thanks for their daily gluttony. Understand?"I think she's telling me something really complicated. In short, even if she makes it so I never had older siblings, that wouldn't remove my pain... Maybe that's what she's saying. Strictly speaking, that's not quite right. Healing isn't the same thing as removing pain. It's the pleasure we earn as compensation for withstanding pain. Therefore, removing the pain isn't healing. To know the joy of healing, you have to know the pain. "Which means... you must know joy, in order to compensate you for your pain. You should be proud of your past sufferings. After all, they are what make it possible for you to know pleasure that those without pain will never experience. Those who experience this pleasure... cannot help but pass on the same joy to others... *cackle*cackle*" For an instant, Rosa truly did feel a pleasurable surprise at how fabulous it was... but at the same time, she felt a bit of anticlimax. After all, she didn't think being bullied by her siblings could be wiped away by just one meal, no matter how delicious. "Food is the source of many human pleasures. You simply must eat like a pig as long as you live." "If one meal isn't enough, then have as many as you want. Until the pain of your heart is healed, why not continue this gourmet banquet? Begin it, furniture."As the witch clapped twice, there were suddenly two goat head servants there, and they began to prepare the meal. From the beautiful dishes adorning the table, they efficiently took some food and began to pile it up on Rosa's plate. It really did look delicious, but Rosa's body still felt as heavy as lead, and there was no way she'd be able to eat. Maybe they also understood that. The goat head servants tied a napkin around Rosa's collar... and gallantly brought a glass of before-dinner alcohol to her mouth, tilting it for her. She remembered an old servant who had once carried rice porridge to her mouth when she was laid up with a high fever. She couldn't drink it well, and it dripped down from her mouth, but she felt the fragrant sweetness spread throughout her mouth. "It's a sweet aperitif of noble rot German-made wine. A wine cocktail of white wine mixed with a crimson golden drop." Video: The BanquetRosa coughed violently. And the bright red that stained her face made it look as though she had coughed up blood. "You know a lot about black tea, so you should know what it means, right? 'Golden drop' refers to the last drop in a drink. It is called the most precious drop in black tea." "...So a golden drop of blood is the same. The last and most precious drop of blood squeezed out of a human. We squeeze it using that."As the witch snapped her fingers, a bright red veil that had been set up before something large was removed.  BGM: Black Lilliana By its unnerving shape, she could tell that with a human's strength, it could be used to tighten and compress something. And it seemed that there were still some squeezed dregs remaining, because of the bright red remains that stained it. "But you can't take more than one golden drop at once. No matter what kind of human you take it from, you can't get more than one drop. But I am a witch. Reviving a person is easy for me."When the witch snapped her fingers, the human compressor suddenly began to shake. No, she could also hear a groan. It looked almost as though... someone sleeping in that man-sized coffin... had woken up, and was now struggling to get out. But that was wrong. What was inside definitely had been squeezed dregs. Using her magic, the witch had once again revived the squeezed dregs to how they'd been before they were squeezed. Three goat head servants with muscular physiques approached the compressor... and forcefully started tightening the large bulb. As they did, an unearthly moan came from inside the coffin. Rosa thought she knew the owner of that voice. "It is fitting for cooking to be done in the kitchen. Enough, stand back." The witch definitely said that only one golden drop could be taken from a single human. And yet, she had dozens of people's worth of golden drops from a single human. Only a witch could do this. The Golden Witch Beatrice could kill a single human 'endlessly'. In other words, before Beatrice, even death did not mean freedom. "Do you need me to put it a different way? Have you forgotten the day this man hit you, when you swallowed the blood that ran into your mouth?" "That's right, remember that taste. Remember the taste of the tears that you spilled until you were dry. I believe this aperitif will be sufficient to heal that regrettable memory. *cackle*cackle*!!" ...Rosa tried resisting by closing her lips, but the deep red liquid was relentlessly poured into her mouth, which hung open with shock, and the inside of her mouth was filled with a ghastly sweetness... It definitely was a fragrant sweetness. The living blood of her brother, who had given her such hateful thoughts and made her soak her pillow so many times, had been collected from his death, repeated dozens of times. How could the crimson-stained wine not be sweet? But Rosa tried to spit it out. Because of that, the deep red wine that spilled out of Rosa's mouth looked just like a bloodstain. Now that she knew that this ghastly substance wasn't a simple aperitif, Rosa couldn't help but feel uncomfortable about what would happen if this banquet continued.  "...!!!"When Rosa heard the true nature of the pink-colored meat piled up in the salad, she had a sudden impulse to vomit her guts out. Furthermore, the goat servants stuck a fork in it... and carried it to Rosa's mouth.  It probably would be quite sweet, soft and enchanting in her mouth. After all, Eva's lies were always sweet, and young Rosa had always listened to them. And, you might say the stimulating pepper seasoning expressed the truth behind those lies well. "...Mnnnnnnnnnnn!! Nggggnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!"As the tongue salad that kept being pushed into Rosa's mouth was covered with saliva, she spat it out. But the goat head servants carefully returned it to the plate and carried it to Rosa's mouth over and over again. "It goes without saying, but I made this salad liberally using five of Eva's tongues. You can't get more than one tongue out of a person. But I can get them over and over. *cackle*cackle*!!" "...Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!"As Rosa's tears dripped down, she resisted frantically. However, the only way she could resist was by refusing to swallow. Even if she didn't swallow it, the taste of the french dressing increasingly permeated Rosa's mouth...  "And look forward to dessert, *cackle*cackle*!! It's not just your siblings, see? I have lavishly assembled all of those whom you have trusted and yet by whom you were betrayed. Why don't we continue this banquet for all eternity, until your heart is satisfied? For all eternity." "Fear not, your reluctance doesn't trouble me. That's just your personality, right? On the inside, you're actually so happy that your skin is crawling all over. And yet, on the outside, you're merely pretending that all this causes you pain, yes? It's all right. Here, there is no need to worry about honor or your public image or anything, so laugh as much as you want and chew it to bits. Isn't this the beeest banquet, Ushiromiya Rosaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa???" "Oh, I'm sorry, I wanted to leave dessert as a surprise, but let me reveal it now anyways. Maybe that will be enough incentive for you to eat up the full course." "Your dessert is that beloved daughter that you had to keep pretending to love, oven-baked Maria with apples. Doesn't that sound yummy?" "Once you eat this, you will be released from everything. Freedom, you see, freedom! Finally, Rosa will gain freedom as an individual person, aren't you happyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? You should be happy, drool is hanging from your mouth, just try looking in a mirroooooooooooooooooor, hyahahaaahaahaahaha!!"Suddenly, a muscular goat cook was holding Maria under his arm. And Maria gazed at Rosa with a face that was only slightly sad.  "...Nnnnnnn! You aren't a burden!! Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!"As Rosa spat out the food that was continually being carried to her mouth, as she was covered with filth and saliva and blood, she resisted filthily and screamed.  "...If you... think I'm a burden... I don't mind if you eat me." "...After all, I'm always doing horrible things to you. Even when you bring a man over, I can't stay quiet. When you spend the night out with a man, I get lonely and unruly and make a mess of my room. When I go to search by myself, I get lost, the police pick me up, and you're shamed. When you don't come home for several days and I cry and have to be consoled by the neighbors, you're shamed." "Because I'm like this, I'm a burden to Mama. Sorry for being born. So, I'll become delicious oven-baked apples for Mama's sake." "Isn't it delicioooooooooooooooous? Be choked up with tears of gratitude, your daughter is saying this much for you, riiiiiiiiiiiight? Oven-baked apples and your beloved daughter make for the best dessert! You've managed to raise such delicious ingredients, aren't you the best mother, Ushiromiya Rosaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa???" "...Mama, thanks for everything. Bye bye." "Have you been satisfied with my hospitality...? Then I'll have you accept it. That I am a witch. Proclaim it. 'Ushiromiya Rosa accepts that Beatrice is a witch'!!" "*cackle*cackle*, hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!! I finally made you acknowledge it!! That crafty Battler has already surrendered, and I made Rosa, the fool who denied me even after being invited to the Golden Land, accept it!! Perfect!! <It's perfect!!>" "I've accomplished my perfect victory!! Hehahahahahahahahakya-HAH-HAH-HAH-HAH-HAH-HA!! Come, bring Maria, prepare a delicious oven roast for Rosa!!" "Noooooooooooooooooo, Mariaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!" BGM: Dread of the Grave  "Wha... th-that voice!! Ooof?!"An arm grabbed the back of the witch's head and smashed her face into the table. As it did, the witch broke to pieces, turned into a cloud of gold butterflies, and reformed into her body a short distance away.  "...B-Battler?!?! Y-You bastard... I thought you'd surrendered so far that even your soul was furniture!!" "Me too, but while I was listening to that gross recipe, I started to get a little hungry."  "And Maria. It's ten years too early for you to talk about having someone eat you up. But in ten years, you'd better say that to me. Promise." "...Uu-. Promise." "B-Battler-kun...!" "Sorry to keep you waiting, Aunt Rosa. I'd forgotten. This is a one-on-one fight between me and this woman. It's totally wrong for me to give in. Thanks to you hanging in there, I've gotten my will to fight back!!" ...I see, he doesn't know when to give up, just what I'd expect from Ushiromiya Kinzo's grandchild...! So the chick of a phoenix is a phoenix after all...! "Heh, hehahahahahahahahaha, how dashing, how amusing! I wouldn't have it any other way!! I wouldn't have you any other way, Battler!! Try to deny me, I'll completely and thoroughly smash you to bits! Let me make you surrender over and over again. I'll teach you, one who has licked my shoes, the taste of defeat over and over again!!" "No problem, I'll teach you that I, Ushiromiya Battler, am a man who can stand back up even after crawling through the mud!!" "I've never been invincible in a fight. I've lost loads of times." "But I'll definitely crawl through the mud and stand up again. And then I'll finish this!! In a man's fight, you don't lose until you accept defeat, no matter how much you get beat up!!" "I'll accept your challenge, Ushiromiya Battler!! Furniture, begin preparations for the next game!!" "While we're waiting, why don't you tell me all about it? There were a lot of closed rooms in this game. Using red, I've smashed to bits most of the methods by which you tried to talk yourself out of them. What other evasive quibbles will you show me now?!! The lock to the chapel, the lock to Jessica's room, the lock to the servant room, the lock to Natsuhi's room, the lock to the parlor!! Use your bizarre specialty, those delusions, rantings, daydreams, and bluffs, all slanted with ridiculous, incredible turns of events, and show how you can thoroughly deny meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!"  BGM: Melody
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Happy thanksgiving, loyal readers! Starting today, we've moved to the upgraded translation from the Steam release.
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Nov 24, 2016 16:34
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Since the first Tea Party was an actual tea party, when I first read this I was pretty shocked at how far things got off the rails by only Episode 2. also, cow tits
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Nov 24, 2016 16:46
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I forgot about Battler's goddamn "eating" joke 
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Nov 24, 2016 16:59
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U ..  First that thing on Halloween, and now this on thanksgiving? At least we know you're doing this deliberately now, prof.... Can't wait for goddamn Christmas. (I kid, I kid, this is artful and I'm actually astonished at how well you're pacing this.) Also, battler? Great you're back with us, but she's your prepubescent cousin and you aren't helping.
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Nov 24, 2016 17:17
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 Rodyle posted:I forgot about Battler's goddamn "eating" joke It's the most memorable line in EP2
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Nov 24, 2016 17:30
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resurgam40 posted:U .. I'm taking bets Stakes replaced with candy canes? Epitaph replaced with the entirety of How The Grinch Stole Christmas? The victims of the first twilight all dressed up as Santa and his elves and stuffed down the chimney, with mysterious hoofprints on the roof? All of these things are possible for an all-powerful witch
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Nov 24, 2016 17:41
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I don't understand how denying the witch works. Surely if you accept her once, you can't just dial it back and be like 'actually, since you're mean, just kidding, I don't believe you exist', right? Surely??
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Nov 24, 2016 17:51
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The Stakes do have a character song that has something of a Christmas theme that should be safe to post by then - on the assumption it's done with Polsy or the like due to associated videos. That's actually their second character song too. Their first one is already safe to post, and it's... interesting. Amidiri posted:I don't understand how denying the witch works. Surely if you accept her once, you can't just dial it back and be like 'actually, since you're mean, just kidding, I don't believe you exist', right? Surely?? If they later change their mind, they've clearly not accepted the truth of her existence completely. Thus, they still need to be "educated" more. 
Lord Koth fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Nov 24, 2016 |
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Nov 24, 2016 17:51
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Amidiri posted:I don't understand how denying the witch works. Surely if you accept her once, you can't just dial it back and be like 'actually, since you're mean, just kidding, I don't believe you exist', right? Surely?? I'm pretty sure at least some atheists were religious at one point.
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This entire update is just, what? 
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