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HEY GAL posted:sorry, they're schmaltzy and musically simplistic Pre-bluegrass Appalachian folk music is musically simplistic and it's super important and profound. Thirteen Orphans fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Nov 23, 2016 |
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Thirteen Orphans posted:Pre-bluegrass Appalachian folk music is musically simplistic and it's super important and profound.
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Samuel Clemens posted:I do find it funny that the best adaptation of the Gospels was directed by an avowed atheist. Who, and what movie are you thinking of?
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Thirteen Orphans posted:Pre-bluegrass Appalachian folk music is musically simplistic and it's super important and profound. surely you're not saying bluegrass is not important or profound, I'm not above hitting you with my banjo. But seriously, if you got any names you'd like to share I'd be all over that stuff <3
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HEY GAL posted:sorry, they're schmaltzy and musically simplistic They're schmaltzy and musically simplistic in the same way that church is boring and repetitive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0wVML-Kffw CountFosco fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Nov 23, 2016 |
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Tias posted:surely you're not saying bluegrass is not important or profound, I'm not above hitting you with my banjo. A lot of times if I say Appalachian folk people will think Bluegrass. Though it's the antecedent, the music I'm referring to is very different. So I say it to be specific. Listen to Dock Boggs. He's my favorite. Particularly "Prodigal Son" and his version of "Oh Death."
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Who, and what movie are you thinking of? Pasolini's The Gospel According to St. Matthew is on that Vatican's list.
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CountFosco posted:They're schmaltzy and musically simplistic in the same way that church is boring and repetitive. this one is also excellent and madeline kahn was a national treasure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrRDrz53Q1E
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Bel_Canto posted:this one is also excellent and madeline kahn was a national treasure
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Samuel Clemens posted:There are plenty of good Christian films. The Vatican even has an official list. I like the list, but I see that it hasn't been updated. How about some worthwhile film recommendations from the last 20-ish years?
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trump's administration both literally and figuratively orange https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...omepage%2Fstory (this woman is also the sister of Erik Prince, the most famous mercenary in America, although i think he is Catholic) (every day we grow closer to the 17th century)
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 I really don't feel empathy for strangers that's because you haven't practiced the virtues enough I just don't see why I should. Like Ben said in The Big Short, just don't dance. (Ben is a character who bets against the housing market. He reprimands his colleagues for celebrating, because their income comes from an event that was bad for society as a whole) well, on one hand, you have a bright future in investment banking. On the other hand, this kind of thinking is probably bad for your immortal soul eh, I can just do a million years in purgatory. That's a short time compared to eternity. You can't go to hell unless you want to, right? don't you want to live a life that is pleasing to God? I'll be pleasing to God when I come out of purgatory, no? I think this is not allowed. Purgatory is supposed to be for people who try to be good and fail if I go to hell, will you come along for me?How to convince a dude that being good is In fact good, help me tuxedocatfish
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If some living mortal has a winning argument for being good, please share it quickly with the world. Folks who already have a sense of compassion for others are precious. Encouraging it in others is the work of sages. I think that "Why be good?" is a question of purpose and meaning. An individual's will to meaning will be thoroughly personal to their particular situation and in every moment of their life. Without knowing your friend, it is impossible for me to suggest what exactly will call them towards the ultimate meaning of their life with respect to an omnipresent and omnibenevolent God. But I'm encouraged that wise people throughout the world and throughout history have praised and practiced goodness. I pray for the Holy Spirit to make clearer the foundations of this goodness in your friend, which is no doubt unfolding as God intends.
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Paramemetic, I know you read this thread--your astrology thread is closed and you have not yet answered my PM. The thing I need astrological advice about is next month! 
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HEY GAL posted:Paramemetic, I know you read this thread--your astrology thread is closed and you have not yet answered my PM. The thing I need astrological advice about is next month! Early modern history. Not even once.
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Lutha Mahtin posted:and you joke about protestants being heretics That's her profession talking. 30 Years War era HRE-ites couldn't scratch their rear end without consulting an astrologist.
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Lutha Mahtin posted:and you joke about protestants being heretics my dad posted:That's her profession talking. 30 Years War era HRE-ites couldn't scratch their rear end without consulting an astrologist.
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pidan posted:How to convince a dude that being good is In fact good, help me tuxedocatfish It sounds like he's on board with having empathy for people close to him, which honestly is the sort of thing that in the long run should take care of itself, especially if this person is young and not terribly set in their ways. The catalyst that made my low-affect rear end start sincerely caring about people I didn't know was just loneliness; nobody likes a misanthrope, and sooner or later the performance of giving a poo poo became sincere. If I had to offer a more (if still not entirely) logic-based argument tailored towards convincing my past self it would probably be a mix of proof that reciprocity works in a practical context combined with an appeal to how much suffering sucks, to the point where every blow struck against pain and death is a victory for every individual human being even if isn't their own personal suffering. But like Caufman says, I don't know this person, and this is inevitably going to be very specific to them.
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Paladinus posted:If Kepler jumped off a bridge, would you, too? ... No, but if Wallenstein had, she probably would. e: ^^^^^^ 
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Arsenic Lupin posted:If you're looking at it on a strictly cost-benefit basis, sinning and planning on repenting it later assumes that "later" will still be available. I'm a small-u universalist, but if you aren't, "Hey, God'll handle me when I'm ready to repent!" assumes there isn't a deadline. (Get it: deadline!) I'm sorry of a universalist in that I believe that you can only go to hell if you don't want to go to heaven / reject salvation. I read that in a Catholic theologian's book so it's not even a heresy this once. Actually, the "sin happily because you can repent later" is a bit of a stereotype about Catholics where I'm from, but that generally refers to the wine women & song type sins. Caufman posted:If some living mortal has a winning argument for being good, please share it quickly with the world. Thank you  I think I'm a bit sheltered, because the idea that a person wouldn't agree that, in principle, being good is desirable and important was really foreign to me. I can't imagine rejecting the concept of the Good is a widespread opinion. Is it? Tuxedo Catfish posted:It sounds like he's on board with having empathy for people close to him, which honestly is the sort of thing that in the long run should take care of itself, especially if this person is young and not terribly set in their ways. I hope you're right! Maybe people need to experience some suffering before they can develop empathy, so it will come with time. I think I got really indoctrinated to the idea that being good is important by the structure of all fairytales and later excessively reading moral philosophy, that questioning this is just baffling to me. I'm like the stereotypical Christian stumped by some atheist argument. Not that this guy is even an atheist 
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My dream waifu. 
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HEY GAL posted:it's not heretical to use one of the methods that god gave us to understand the world, our lives, and our subconscious mind  that moronic meme emoticon is really honestly all i can say about this post of yours
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gently caress it, I'm a gay dude and very Lutheran I've stepped carefully around announcing my sexuality in this thread, but it's very relevant now given American politics. We have a ton of LGBTQ and so on posters, this is a very diverse thread and it's awesome and I'd like it preserved that way. chalk me up as one of our many non-cis/hetero goons
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Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, And the monthly prognosticators Stand up and save you From what shall come upon you. Behold, they shall be as stubble, The fire shall burn them; They shall not deliver themselves From the power of the flame;
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Pellisworth posted:gently caress it, I'm a gay dude and very Lutheran You are loved and appreciated! 
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Pellisworth posted:how does one prepose to a trebuchet, especially a trebuchet aimed at the American right? Well I think one would begin by constructing said trebuchet, asking a priest to bless it, and seeing where it goes. Pellisworth posted:gently caress it, I'm a gay dude and very Lutheran While I would consider Lutheranity to be a negative mark against a person vis-a-vis their qualities, I have a ton of respect for your coming out in this way. Good luck, and God Bless. Or at least, may God bless you (and any of us) should it be so pleasing to Him (oh man please, Lord, do not smite me for deigning to suggest who to bless or not.) Rodrigo Diaz posted:Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, A beautiful sentiment.
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, I have strong opinions about astrology and maybe I'll piss off HEY GAL astrological projections and horoscopes might be useful for directing your attention inward and focusing on whats important to you but, they're utter bullshit Please tell me how, within Christian theology, the position of stars and planets at your birth dictates your life course. I do think it's helpful to gain some introspection on your choices and decisions, and astrology offers that. I also think it's pretty heretical to give any serious weight to astrological predictions. They might be helpful in forcing you to take stock of your personality, but trusting astrology is... really weird, at least to the Protestant mind. Should you trust magic for your decisions? Well maybe, it has something interesting to say but uhhhhh.
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Thirteen Orphans posted:You are loved and appreciated! Ceciltron posted:While I would consider Lutheranity to be a negative mark against a person vis-a-vis their qualities, I have a ton of respect for your coming out in this way. Good luck, and God Bless. Or at least, may God bless you (and any of us) should it be so pleasing to Him (oh man please, Lord, do not smite me for deigning to suggest who to bless or not.) Thanks guys. Me, I'm gonna be okay. I'm a tall, white-rear end and "masculine" dude, I'll survive with a pretty disgusting amount of privilege. I am much more worried about transgendered people and immigrants. I don't give a poo poo about denomination or political leanings, I'm spending time to hopefully improve the education of grade school kids in my area. Don't pray for me, pray for transgendered people and immigrants. They don't have rights. I do. It is easier to take rights from those unprotected than those whom like I have gained protections.
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On the topic of astrology and divination, I know that, with absolute certainty in a fairly certain sense, "what is not of God is of the Devil". This isn't a question of using reason or logic to discern natural laws, but rather of esoterism and secrecy to uncover hidden meanings. What is less open to us, and plainly visible to all, than the redemptive sacrifice of Christ and the Holy Scripture? The contrast, necessarily, is that anything that is hidden, requiring hidden knowledge, that it may give you an advantage of knowledge or power over others, is necessarily suspect. If there is knowledge worth having, it ought to be shared freely with others, and be easily proven or disproven according to the laws that govern God's Creation.
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I think Chinese Astrology (maybe Western is the same I don't know enough about it) has a major contribution we should be taking seriously and recognize for its practicality. What the astrologers were picking up on are real, there really are different kinds of personalities and that the same personality type can be recognized among different people. There are definitely dogs and rabbits. What most Westerners aren't familiar with is that the five elements are applied to those animals, like having a Fire Monkey, adding even more depth and variety. Recognizing these personality types is useful for understand how people will naturally interact and is helpful to recognize how to fix problems in relationships. For example, a fire type is calmed using water qualities. This isn't magic, it's folk psychology/proto-psychology, depending on what you want to call it. No, we can't forecast the year based on its animal/element. No, not all dogs are born in the year of the dog. But I understand a person's personality using this kind of thought just as well as with the Meyers-Briggs or the Temperaments.
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