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quote:He also has filled his Facebook with links to Breitbart and several posts complaining that there is no "Straight Pride" week or White History month. I'm sure that our community (featuring several gay and transgender players) is totally ok with that. Please tell me he's doing this on his Store's facebook and not his personal one  No doubt when his "Not open on weekend" business that relies on competitors to generate business for him fails, he'll blame those goddamn Socialists in Washington, because he is John Galt
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I really really like those models and the concept behind them. They're actually good enough that I might try a wargame that isn't x-wing purely on the basis of how cool they are.
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Nov 24, 2016 18:50
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Yeah gonna admit, I like the frog dudes and cthulhu more than their fishmen, though honestly they're not bad either (I'd probably go for a slightly more artificial colour on the armour, though).
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Nov 24, 2016 18:52
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FrostyPox posted:Please tell me he's doing this on his Store's facebook and not his personal one All have been on his personal page, but he adds literally everyone who comes into the store and will give him their name to his personal, so there is almost 0 difference between the two. It's also funny to compare Black Friday deals between other stores and his. I know he isn't in charge of pricing, but "Blood Bowl is released!" is a pretty lame deal compared to blanket discounts plus d10% off at one of the good shops, or buy 1 get 1 half off at another.
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Nov 24, 2016 18:58
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Skinty McEdger posted:I really really like those models and the concept behind them. They're actually good enough that I might try a wargame that isn't x-wing purely on the basis of how cool they are. Be fair. Most of us tried X wing due to the cool models and universe setting.
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Nov 24, 2016 19:00
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Skinty McEdger posted:I really really like those models and the concept behind them. They're actually good enough that I might try a wargame that isn't x-wing purely on the basis of how cool they are. The hardback rulebook is £24.99/$39.99, the softcover rulebook with no background is £12.49/$24.99, and the Uncharted Empires book (which has the first 9 expansion armies including Trident Realm) is £12.49/$24.99, or you can get all three together for £34.99/$69.99 Alternatively a limited version of the base rules are free (missing some magic items, army lists are abridged and missing some units), or £20 for the full rules and £12.50 for Uncharted Empires, when you go for digital copies. This is roughly what's in a £45/$85 starter army, and this is what's in a £100/$175 mega army. All factory RRPs of course, you can probably do better at retail e: Also yes, the regular Naiad sprue has both a frog, and an otter on it NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Nov 24, 2016 |
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Nov 24, 2016 19:00
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x-wing is real dang he*cking good
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Nov 24, 2016 19:00
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A Real Horse posted:All have been on his personal page, but he adds literally everyone who comes into the store and will give him their name to his personal, so there is almost 0 difference between the two. Is that a typo, or do you get to roll a d10 to see how big your discount is? Because as a gimmick layered on top of an existing sale that'd be pretty awesome.
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Nov 24, 2016 20:00
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The Bee posted:Is that a typo, or do you get to roll a d10 to see how big your discount is? Because as a gimmick layered on top of an existing sale that'd be pretty awesome. No typo, and it is awesome. They do a bunch of different stuff like that. It's also one of the cleanest play areas in the city, and the staff is super awesome.
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Nov 24, 2016 20:57
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The Bee posted:Is that a typo, or do you get to roll a d10 to see how big your discount is? Because as a gimmick layered on top of an existing sale that'd be pretty awesome. Yeah a place I know for their anniversaries would do a d20 discount sale, which was amazing. One year I actually rolled a 20.
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Nov 24, 2016 21:35
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Chill la Chill posted:Be fair. Most of us tried X wing due to the cool models and universe setting. I'll be honest, I tried X-Wing exclusively due to hearing that it was a tabletop game you could go from package opening to actual play in like ten minutes. There are a lot of games out there with cool models...I like stuff I've seen from Malifaux, Dark Age, Warmahordes, Infinity, and those frog guys are rad, but I'm not dropping real model money, plus money on paints and craft supplies, only to then have to put everything together myself before I roll a single die, not to mention the fact that all those cool models are guaranteed to look like dogshit after I'm done with them.
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Kai Tave posted:I'll be honest, I tried X-Wing exclusively due to hearing that it was a tabletop game you could go from package opening to actual play in like ten minutes. There are a lot of games out there with cool models...I like stuff I've seen from Malifaux, Dark Age, Warmahordes, Infinity, and those frog guys are rad, but I'm not dropping real model money, plus money on paints and craft supplies, only to then have to put everything together myself before I roll a single die, not to mention the fact that all those cool models are guaranteed to look like dogshit after I'm done with them. This is why I never finished putting together a 40k army and just played Wings of War (now Wings of Glory) instead
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Nov 24, 2016 22:40
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Yeah I mean the most financially successful miniatures game of all time was built on the back of that appeal. Although TECHNICALLY Heroclix isn't a minis game, because GW and a bunch of other minis companies bullied the industry into classifying it either by itself as a "collectable miniatures game" or as a CCG. So places like Alliance record the sales of HC in the same category as MTG and Pokemon as opposed to Warhammer.
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Nov 24, 2016 23:14
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Kai Tave posted:not to mention the fact that all those cool models are guaranteed to look like dogshit after I'm done with them. I dunno. That's only my opinion, but going from barely recognizable things to decent paint job felt pretty good. I mean, no one but you* will judge you harshly for loving up your first mandollies, but hey, everyone gotta start at the same level. *= And lovely smug nerds. But then again, you can wedgie them and take their x wang money.
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I started with Imperial Guard about ten years ago, and learned to paint practicing on metal kasrkin that were easy to strip and begin again. And 1) those were awesome models, 2) for a novice painter even just seeing something as magical as drybrushing making all the tiny features pop with a minimum of effort will make you feel awesome. I improved and learned new techniques, and was never great, but I enjoyed it and they were of pretty decent tabletop quality. Theres definitely a feeling of accomplishment. It was GW though and I regret it. I had been lured there through the appeal of Dawn of War  Now I mostly just paint Malifaux agonizingly slowly with occasional kitchen table or vassal games. And practice on Imperial Assault minis that I've never played with once.
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Nov 25, 2016 00:58
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What would you do if while playing at a store, a grog purposefully smashed some of your models. And there are No cameras to show that he did it to the owner/whoever. (This didn't happen)
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Nov 25, 2016 01:02
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goodness posted:What would you do if while playing at a store, a grog purposefully smashed some of your models. And there are No cameras to show that he did it to the owner/whoever. I would challenge him to my famous three trials of wisdom and soundly defeat him.
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Iceclaw posted:I dunno. That's only my opinion, but going from barely recognizable things to decent paint job felt pretty good. I mean, no one but you* will judge you harshly for loving up your first mandollies, but hey, everyone gotta start at the same level. I don't really even care about other people judging me, it's just that the thing about all those rad minis is that they look rad when they're modeled and painted well. I don't really feel like wasting non-Heroclix money on models only to have them wind up looking like Heroclix anyway. Plus it's a time issue as well, I'm not really looking to pick up an entirely different hobby.
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Kai Tave posted:I don't really even care about other people judging me, it's just that the thing about all those rad minis is that they look rad when they're modeled and painted well. I don't really feel like wasting non-Heroclix money on models only to have them wind up looking like Heroclix anyway. Plus it's a time issue as well, I'm not really looking to pick up an entirely different hobby.  I like to play the game, not do the hobby stuff
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goodness posted:What would you do if while playing at a store, a grog purposefully smashed some of your models. And there are No cameras to show that he did it to the owner/whoever. This for sure happened
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I like hobby stuff. It gives me stuff to do related to my interests when other things aren't going on.
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I mean on the one hand I don't think it's unreasonable to point out that a fair chunk of X-Wing's success lies on the fact that it's Star Wars and not Generic Space Dogfight Simulator so that's fair, on the other hand I was at least passingly interested in FFG's new fantasy tabletop battles game until I found out that the minis aren't prepainted. I guess I can understand why they'd want to save costs, but it's a bit of a bummer.
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Kai Tave posted:I mean on the one hand I don't think it's unreasonable to point out that a fair chunk of X-Wing's success lies on the fact that it's Star Wars and not Generic Space Dogfight Simulator so that's fair, on the other hand I was at least passingly interested in FFG's new fantasy tabletop battles game until I found out that the minis aren't prepainted. I guess I can understand why they'd want to save costs, but it's a bit of a bummer. The brand is what gets people in the door more than anything. Its not going to keep people hooked on their own dumping out money for some plastic wangs. For me staying involved was both a combination of good prepainted minis so i could open a box and start playing as well as the interesting and mostly balanced gameplay and ship building options.
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I'm sorry. "You wanna jam in as many Bloodsecrators, Bloodstokers, Bloodpriests and Bloodgrinders in as possible."
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NTRabbit posted:The hardback rulebook is £24.99/$39.99, the softcover rulebook with no background is £12.49/$24.99, and the Uncharted Empires book (which has the first 9 expansion armies including Trident Realm) is £12.49/$24.99, or you can get all three together for £34.99/$69.99 And if you really wanna go on the cheap, you can just use Easy Army to build your list online for free and it includes all the special rules you need for the units you chose. So the only thing that is really a must buy is the softcover rule book.
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KoW is one of the relatively few games where I can really condone non-free rules, since it's obviously designed to let people play with third-party (read: GW) miniatures. Ditto with Frostgrave. For other miniature games though I really prefer when the rules are free. Also all this talk about skirmish games is making me want to design a cyberpunk skirmish game. Maybe I'll even figure out a way to make hacking not total poo poo!! (Yes I'm still angry about Shadowrun Returns.)
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Nov 25, 2016 04:24
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Drone posted:I thought the core KoW2 rules are free? They are but they don't include magic items and they only have some units from the lists in the core book and none of the lists from the expansion book.
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Some of the rules are free, but not 100%. There was a big kerfuffle when 2e came out and they said the rules were free to try. People got mad that it was just a subset of the rules, and Mantic said "yeah that's why they're free to try."
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Fragged Empires is a cyberpunk skirmish game. FE does the asymmetry that is the punk part really well. You can roll up with twenty gangers vs one security guard (or vice versa) and have the battle be about tactics rather than force. Some traits are cybernetic implants (or biotech or something creepier if you're doing splatterpunk) and there are rules for replacing too much meat. People can hack you.
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Nov 25, 2016 08:28
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Hmm, I looked at their site and it's not really the style I was imagining. FE seems a little more post-apocalyptic and I was thinking more Neuromancer.
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Nov 25, 2016 08:46
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The expansion has post-Singularity humans downloading themselves into robot bodies (at a cost of ~89% of their memories and abilities) to fight other robots who are made by grabbing chunks of the Singularity and stuffing it into non-bipedal horror bots. If you make everyone one race and slap Human over the name (the Corporates are good for this) it works well. We're playing Shadowrun with it, so we're using all the races . If you want to do Matrix combat you basically change the Prototype Weapons into decker powers.
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Avenging Dentist posted:Hmm, I looked at their site and it's not really the style I was imagining. FE seems a little more post-apocalyptic and I was thinking more Neuromancer. Yeah, Fragged Empire isn't really traditional cyberpunk as I understand it, it's more along the lines of a far future post-post-apocalypse with a bunch of engineered races going "y'know what, fighting wars on behalf of our creators sucks a dick" and setting out to create their own cultures and societies. If you want to make a cyberpunk skirmish style game while they're light on the cyber aspect one place you might look for inspiration is either the Judge Dredd minis game and believe it or not there's also a Batman minis game where you've got various factions like Batman's coterie, the GCPD, and all the various criminal gangs you might think of crewed by the rogues.
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Relevant Tangent posted:Fragged Empires is a cyberpunk skirmish game. FE does the asymmetry that is the punk part really well. You can roll up with twenty gangers vs one security guard (or vice versa) and have the battle be about tactics rather than force. Some traits are cybernetic implants (or biotech or something creepier if you're doing splatterpunk) and there are rules for replacing too much meat. People can hack you. I've been vaguely pondering a Bioshock Skirmish Game over in the Sci-Fi/Fantasy thread, so this looks interesting. Most of googling points me at the RPG, though. I'd need to know more about the actual rules of the game.
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It's 3d6, 18 points assigned to six stats, and gear/weapons cost a different kind of points. You can build based on three scales, swarms, lieutenants, and nemesis. If you're running it as a skirmish game, 12 points to a side would let you have one mega-dude, four or so regular dudes, or a swarm of a dozen easily. The points are balanced such that your mega-dude is going to kill a bunch of the swarm every turn, but the swarm stands a reasonable shot at overwhelming them. I'll stat up some examples when I get home if people are interested.
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The Mantic Black Friday sale is up, stuff on sale is limited by quantity and per hour, they said they'll have a couple of super deals appear randomly throughout the day
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And the Dreamforge Games black friday sale is up too. Their minis are some of the highest quality ones on the market and the Leviathans are Titan-sized Grey Knight-looking motherfuckers. And said Leviathans are only 50 bucks now, down from 126. Please buy stuff from Mark. Mark Mondragon basically runs the company by and large himself, he's a courteous, friendly dude who I've spoken to many times in the past. Outside of the original Kickstarter for DF Games taking longer than expected to produce and ship(what KS doesn't these days), he's always been timely and reliable with shipping out subsequent orders. His Eisenkern have both male and female versions and they are interchangeable, and come with a ton of accessories and optional heads/weapons. Just check this stuff out, you can build a massive IG army for a couple hundred bucks right now. His Valkir make outstanding replacement Space Marines, as well, and the Devastator and Assault variants are awesome. The Leviathans also come in a shrunk-down version, for dreadknight stand-ins. http://dreamforge-games.com Some examples of the stuff available: Leviathans, 8.5 inches tall, 4.5 inch versions also available   Eisenkern Troopers, 20 for 22 bucks right now(half off), Eisenkern Support Weapons, 3 teams for 12.50(down from 37.50), and Eisenkern Panzerjagers    Valkir Assault Troopers, Heavy Troopers, and Support Troopers    the thing I love about the Valkir Support guys is that their Devastator weapons are literally just man-sized versions of the Leviathan weapons. There's also an APC that has optional parts for weaponry called the Keilerkopf. It looks rad and has a crazy amount of detailing, and is 39 bucks right now.  He has plans for a hovertank, but I think things haven't sold well enough for him to put it into production yet unfortunately. I do wish his stuff was more well-known, because it's all super high quality.
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I'm tempted by the Dreamforge stuff but international shipping kills it for me, $71 for a single figure! I do like their stuff though, Dreamforge has come a long way since the early days of upscaled casts of GW parts mashed together into Titans.
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Zark the Damned posted:I'm tempted by the Dreamforge stuff but international shipping kills it for me, $71 for a single figure! $71 shipping for one figure, is it a Leviathan? Are you in Australia/New Zealand? I recently spoke to a goon who was going to ship some lovely bootleg transformers to me he found in New Zealand for a few bucks. The shipping cost for about 1kg of them was nearly 60 bucks, over four times the cost of the items themselves. It could just be a case of Australia/NZ(if you live there) having horrific pricing on absolutely everything including shipping, maybe. Japan's pretty bad for shipping costs too. I can see it costing a lot based on that since the Leviathan boxes are both very large for miniatures products(a bit bigger than a shoebox) and weigh a fair amount as well.
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