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the trump tutelage posted:i don't think anyone is afraid of their capitalist oppressors per se. i think everyone is afraid of losing what they have, such as it is.
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cams posted:yeah this is why i had difficulty phrasing that. but i do think there is some fear of it being taken away rather than losing it. same reason people don't unionize even in situations where they have the leverage necessary to do so. yeah, 75% of anti-union messaging in a workplace is pretty much "you could, and that's your right, but we'll totally retaliate if you try"
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Nov 25, 2016 05:26
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cams posted:this just confirms that you're a gimmick so i don't know what you were trying to do here Do global war fetishists get that they live on the globe too, and will almost certainly perish if it goes nuclear?
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Nov 25, 2016 05:31
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Nichael posted:Do global war fetishists get that they live on the globe too, and will almost certainly perish if it goes nuclear? I think that's the point
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Nov 25, 2016 05:32
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cams posted:yeah this is why i had difficulty phrasing that. but i do think there is some fear of it being taken away rather than losing it. same reason people don't unionize even in situations where they have the leverage necessary to do so.  it's like living in perpetual fear of the mafia smashing up your storefront if you don't pay them protection money, but you never really question the mafia's right to do so. and besides, you wouldn't have to pay them so much if the (((GOVERNMENT))) would just stop harassing them.
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Nov 25, 2016 05:34
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Mariana Horchata posted:idk i have some friendz who werk for Elon and i hardly get to ever see them and when i do they are always drained and on the verge of passing out at the table/bar from working 60-70hrs a week...which is wack af but on the flipside riding to the bar on the hwy in an autopilot engaged Model S while hitting a PAX is rad af so i guess im conflicted that's not exactly uncommon for engineers, especially ones at companies like that, doubly so for certain fields like aerospace
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Nov 25, 2016 05:35
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Karl Sharks posted:that's not exactly uncommon for engineers, especially ones at companies like that, doubly so for certain fields like aerospace start your career at tesla or spacex working 70-80 hours a week and have a really good line on your resume when you quit in 5 years and can go somewhere more chill
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Nov 25, 2016 05:44
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Only post in this shitshow that ever made any sense.
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Nov 25, 2016 05:44
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Real talk, I don't think we're going to get nuked under Trump, life will just get shittier for non-whites, women and the poor, plus the US will lose a lot of its economic standing. But if it came down to it, would it be better to drink yourself stupid and die with dignity if you knew a bomb was on the way? Or try to get out and make sure society rebuilds itself without assholes at the helm this time around?
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Nov 25, 2016 05:46
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capital doesn't need so much labor any more, so jobs aren't coming back. it's foolish to retreat to 1950's/60's middle class fantasies. it was stifling and lovely and excluded many, and people revolted from it.
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Nov 25, 2016 05:46
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logikv9 posted:we live in an universe where Germany has to save us if trump goes full fascist I'm willing to flee to Germany, join the Bundsheer, and the raise the flag of Germany over a burned out US Capitol dome
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Nov 25, 2016 05:48
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change my name posted:Real talk, I don't think we're going to get nuked under Trump, life will just get shittier for non-whites, women and the poor, plus the US will lose a lot of its economic standing. But if it came down to it, would it be better to drink yourself stupid and die with dignity if you knew a bomb was on the way? Or try to get out and make sure society rebuilds itself without assholes at the helm this time around? if you are seriously worried about nuclear then buy iodine tablets and a couple of (different brand) geiger counters.
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Nov 25, 2016 05:48
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minimum basic income freeing people from needing employment to survive is the only way the system is going to possible be sustainable, it will collapse in on itself otherwise from a decaying consumer base of course since capital doesn't know what the gently caress it's doing being completely directionless, this will never happen unless forced to by rule in this era of big data why couldn't we come up with a command economy able to actually track everything and direct resources to where they're needed?
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Nov 25, 2016 05:50
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change my name posted:Real talk, I don't think we're going to get nuked under Trump, life will just get shittier for non-whites, women and the poor, plus the US will lose a lot of its economic standing. But if it came down to it, would it be better to drink yourself stupid and die with dignity if you knew a bomb was on the way? Or try to get out and make sure society rebuilds itself without assholes at the helm this time around? the only people who are coming out ahead in this are the people who were coming out ahead regardless of who won. sorry if thats not intersectional enough an analysis for the left these days 
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Nov 25, 2016 05:51
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don't give me this garbage about startup innovation, fifty different apps to find someone to gently caress or to have food delivered to you isn't "innovation", it's bottom of the barrel laziness because real problems take more effort and investment to solve
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Nov 25, 2016 05:52
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Bolton Hairy-Bore posted:capital doesn't need so much labor any more, so jobs aren't coming back. it's foolish to retreat to 1950's/60's middle class fantasies. it was stifling and lovely and excluded many, and people revolted from it. this is also why i don't fault incrementalism because it might, in fact, not be a bad idea to do it gradually.
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Nov 25, 2016 05:52
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Shipon posted:minimum basic income freeing people from needing employment to survive is the only way the system is going to possible be sustainable, it will collapse in on itself otherwise from a decaying consumer base Then the rich people would have to share and that would make the money sad.
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Nov 25, 2016 05:53
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Rust belt is loving retarded.
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Nov 25, 2016 05:53
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Baloogan posted:if you are seriously worried about nuclear then buy iodine tablets and a couple of (different brand) geiger counters. Nah, I live in the middle of NYC so I'd be irreparably hosed.
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Nov 25, 2016 05:53
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change my name posted:Real talk, I don't think we're going to get nuked under Trump, life will just get shittier for non-whites, women and the poor, plus the US will lose a lot of its economic standing. But if it came down to it, would it be better to drink yourself stupid and die with dignity if you knew a bomb was on the way? Or try to get out and make sure society rebuilds itself without assholes at the helm this time around? if u depend on life saving medication for physical or mental illness than you're completely hosed if the bombs drop, best case scenario you get vaporized and don't get stuck counting down the days until your pills run out and you die a slow lingering death e: on a lighter note, trump doctor sex cake ed balls
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Nov 25, 2016 05:54
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cams posted:this is also part of the problem. in order to be honest while promoting a real progressive economic agenda, you have to tell people that the times are changing quickly and that we ALL need to change with them. voters want "change" but they want the government to change, not themselves. that's sort of why I got behind Hillary as a positive candidate besides not just being trump. she had flaws but she would have been slow and steady forward in certain ways though maybe people are right and we might never have learned our lesson, who knows. all I know is it I'd rather we learn the lesson about helping the poor and minorities without having to see both go through hell first
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Shipon posted:in this era of big data why couldn't we come up with a command economy able to actually track everything and direct resources to where they're needed?
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Nov 25, 2016 05:54
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change my name posted:Nah, I live in the middle of NYC so I'd be irreparably hosed. meh, they don't nuke cities, they don't nuke cities to keep the cities as hostages essentially. A nuclear war is kinda like an argument that both sides desperately want to end and get the last word in.
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Nov 25, 2016 05:55
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what i always find funny is how the stock market does better under democratic presidents than republican ones lol
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Nov 25, 2016 05:55
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Shipon posted:minimum basic income freeing people from needing employment to survive is the only way the system is going to possible be sustainable, it will collapse in on itself otherwise from a decaying consumer base although the system of wealth and power could also survive if the surplus population are put in prisons or in refugee camps. or they could just exterminate the poor.
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Nov 25, 2016 05:56
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think of how rad it would be to put Facebook and twitter and whatever other analytics firms' algorithms to work designing an efficient economy instead of pushing garbage ads for garbage products at people Cybersyn
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Nov 25, 2016 05:57
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Karl Sharks posted:what i always find funny is how the stock market does better under democratic presidents than republican ones lol Republican economic policy literally does not work.
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Nov 25, 2016 05:57
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Karl Sharks posted:what i always find funny is how the stock market does better under democratic presidents than republican ones lol stock market going to do PRETTY GOOD for a while under Trump when he knocks corporate rate from 35% to 15%
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Nov 25, 2016 05:59
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The rust belt is REALY loving retarded.
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Nov 25, 2016 06:00
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anyone have any cool names for underground resistance movements in the coming neo-fascist era
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UV_Catastrophe posted:anyone have any cool names for underground resistance movements in the coming neo-fascist era Liberal Crime Squad
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Kazak_Hstan posted:stock market going to do PRETTY GOOD for a while under Trump when he knocks corporate rate from 35% to 15%
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Nov 25, 2016 06:01
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Baloogan posted:meh, they don't nuke cities, they don't nuke cities to keep the cities as hostages essentially. lol if you don't think even the very idea of Trump Tower getting nuked and spilling gold and bronze ash over the east coast is enough to make president trump apoplectic
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Nov 25, 2016 06:02
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UV_Catastrophe posted:anyone have any cool names for underground resistance movements in the coming neo-fascist era Canadian Liberation Army
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Nov 25, 2016 06:03
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cams posted:this is also part of the problem. in order to be honest while promoting a real progressive economic agenda, you have to tell people that the times are changing quickly and that we ALL need to change with them. voters want "change" but they want the government to change, not themselves. i honestly, perhaps niavely, think that people would take quick to a change that's less like "law and order and work" and more like "gently caress working for others profits, spend your day as you wish in relative comfort"
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Nov 25, 2016 06:03
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change my name posted:lol if you don't think even the very idea of Trump Tower getting nuked and spilling gold and bronze ash over the east coast is enough to make president trump apoplectic obama would exchange a million americans and a few million euros for a nuclear ceasefire because his breakfast is milktoast. trump would go all the way 
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im still catching up but it seems like Trump got his wires crossed and is appointing the hawkish neocon globalists to the regular normie government instead of the shadow one like is supposed to happen. The real question is, who is showing up to the underground secret lair Rothschild illuminati meetings that run everything? Mike Tyson? Omarosa? The ghost of Joe Paterno?
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