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Philip Rivers posted:I like top lane because all you have to do is outplay your opponent and sometimes waddle around to poot on a squishy. I like top lane, but i dont really get TP ganks. I also seem to be really bad at last hitting with melee. Meanwhile, I don't like midlane style heros as much. Except TF and Vlad. But Vlad got nerfed like 3 times and does seem worth spending IP on. And I don't get the roaming ganks with TF except maybe to prevent escapes.
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Gripen5 posted:I like top lane, but i dont really get TP ganks. I also seem to be really bad at last hitting with melee. Meanwhile, I don't like midlane style heros as much. Except TF and Vlad. But Vlad got nerfed like 3 times and does seem worth spending IP on. And I don't get the roaming ganks with TF except maybe to prevent escapes. My TP checklist goes like: 1) Is a fight going down in bot lane or around Dragon? 2) Is my jungle there? Is their jungle there? 3) Can I see their mid? Is my mid roaming down? 4) Is their top acting suspicious/backing at a weird time? The goal is to try and estimate how many people are gonna be there in the next 5-10 seconds. If the numbers are overwhelmingly in one team's favor then I probably don't bother, but if my presence might make a significant difference (+/- one person on either side) then I try to TP in ASAP. I also probably don't bother if there's any less than 5 people total involved because 2v2 skirmishes are gonna happen by the nature of bot lane, but once more people start getting involved in the mix it can really make for a significant swing. I'm not good though so don't listen to anything I say.
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Nov 25, 2016 01:21
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 Jesus Christ this skin is so good. http://imgur.com/oRduwOm
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Nov 25, 2016 01:45
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Also, for any lane but especially if TP is in play, make sure not to fall behind in wavepush unless you have a very good reason (IE you will die if you try). If you have wave pressure advantage then you can respond or initiate poo poo around the map while your lane opponent is stuck killing minions (or losing out on them).
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Nov 25, 2016 01:46
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I'm very tired of fighting Jinx.
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Nov 25, 2016 05:29
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So, you thought the thighs were bad before?
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Nov 25, 2016 10:27
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lego bionicle moba is looking good
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Nov 25, 2016 10:33
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would definitely be down with a bionicle inspired champ, tbh
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Nov 25, 2016 10:39
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I dropped my Bionicle guy in a glass of chocolate milk one time
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Nov 25, 2016 10:41
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:
Lux buff <3
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Nov 25, 2016 10:52
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Can anyone drop some Hot Ivern Tips
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Nov 25, 2016 12:43
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Learn somebody else, his big supportive tool is getting nerfed pretty bad. Real answers: The biggest trick to good Ivern play is Daisy tricks. Landing a Q while Daisy is up allows you to nigh-instantly move Daisy to that person. Since the seccondary effect of Q lasts a little while, you can use this to bait and block big shots like projectile ults and dashes. It's also immensely useful for peel and line control. You can target Daisy on an ADC or support to chase them off, then Q the tank you've been shielding your ADC against to get the critical Daisy knick-up. People either consistantly overestimate Daisy, letting you zone them, or consistantly underestimate the immense power of a 70% slow and a homing knock-up. Don't undervalue the shield. A 70% slow (being pretty significantly nerfed) is insane. Coupled with the incredibly low cooldown, an AP tank build and the shields mastery; it is one of the best on demand anti-burst tools of any character. Put it in Daisy, Q you both onto the target and place a bush for your AA steroid, see people freak out and melt way faster than anyone expects a utility supprt to manage. Q tricks are not essential but they can be life takers and play makers. You can Q jump to targets you've Q'd but can't actually see. Jungle creeps over walls, escaping blinks/flashes, you can even Secret Service projectile skills by Q'ing straight onto an enemy. Candy King Ivern is incredible. I am not the best person to talk about such high level stuff as my understanding is mostly assimilation, but Ivern applies game and map control like nobody else. The best invades in the game, the best out-of-sight out-of-mind game pressure available, ganks that make old Shaco look like a toothless old whore with no legs. It's an art I'm only just learning so someone else should expound on it, but a good Ivern game can snowball good lanes, save bad ones and keep the enemy jungler without buffs and a huge gold deficit. Ivern good.
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Nov 25, 2016 14:04
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Where are you seeing these incoming Ivern nerfs?
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Nov 25, 2016 17:18
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just tried to play a quick ai game for free ip since i bought malzhar and wanted to try him out malz is cool having a rengar and warwick feeding mid all game is not cool
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Nov 25, 2016 17:23
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kingcobweb posted:Where are you seeing these incoming Ivern nerfs? PBE is currently at Ivern Triggerseed (E) - Mana cost increased to 70 from 50 Slow reduced to 40/45/50/55/60% from 70% at all ranks. Obviously that's not necessarily the last word, but generally changes like that go through.
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Nov 25, 2016 18:15
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I've been maxing Q instead of E. As far as nerfing the highest winrate jungler it's not a big deal. The changes to CotC will be a bigger deal
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Nov 25, 2016 18:19
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kingcobweb posted:the highest winrate jungler Huh, didn't realize the changes had done that much for him. And yeah I've always maxed Q first, the ranks are just too useful and his shield starts getting more useful as a shield than a slow around the time you're maxing it anyway.
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Nov 25, 2016 18:21
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CoCC is the best build and they're nerfing me, the windspeaker user. goddamn it rito
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Nov 25, 2016 18:25
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have u ever had a thresh who did everything possible to make u lose???? cuz I have 
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Nov 25, 2016 18:49
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your definition of 'everything possible' to cause a loss is very small and sad
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Nov 25, 2016 19:00
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If you die 17 times you should auto demote to gold elo
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Nov 25, 2016 19:03
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At some point being a bad has to cross a line, but I think even 0/17 is probably still just the bads given some of the games I've seen this month.
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Nov 25, 2016 19:04
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I'm not sure if it's something exclusive to my region (BR) but is Swain really this strong on Bronze? I've played like eight games in a row with him and only have one loss which came from our Singed ragequitting after going 1/10.
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Nov 25, 2016 19:11
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Max Coveri posted:I'm not sure if it's something exclusive to my region (BR) but is Swain really this strong on Bronze? I've played like eight games in a row with him and only have one loss which came from our Singed ragequitting after going 1/10. Bronze is about finding My First Champion That Clicks. You've done it
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Nov 25, 2016 19:38
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He's weak in early lane but if he gets a lead and people don't focus him down or take ignite or build a grevious wounds item he can bulldoze a team
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Nov 25, 2016 19:38
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Teikanmi posted:have u ever had a thresh who did everything possible to make u lose???? I had this brand in my game last night who did the same thing  He also bitched the whole game about how awful our jungler was and how nothing was his fault 
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Nov 25, 2016 19:40
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Ivern tips: He's about early ganks. Invade level one with your squad, find out (or figure out from who they're playing) where they're starting, then tag your buff before taking theirs. On blue side, this lets you cheese top with red at level two; on red side, you'll go back for your own buff and chickens before ganking top or mid with doubles. First back Mobis. If you go back with 1250 add a Dark Seal. This is your power spike. You should win the game by the time you finish Runic.
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Nov 25, 2016 19:44
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Sexpansion posted:I had this brand in my game last night who did the same thing im pretty sure nothing in league of legends matters besides making sure your bottom lane isn't the one that goes 0/20 combined. i like to gank top lane when i jungle because its an easy kill but it never amounts to anything compared to going bottom lane because as soon as those guys start feeding the game is over.
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Nov 25, 2016 19:51
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Radical posted:im pretty sure nothing in league of legends matters besides making sure your bottom lane isn't the one that goes 0/20 combined. i like to gank top lane when i jungle because its an easy kill but it never amounts to anything compared to going bottom lane because as soon as those guys start feeding the game is over. It's a delicate balance; if you only gank top lane and dont have a 100% safe bot lane you can end up with 2 tilted allies, but if you focus entirely on bot lane you will end up with a lot of ganks that just dont earn any gold and set you behind (as well as potentially tilting top lane and earning an enemy assassin the 10 minute duration survival and damage buff).
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Nov 25, 2016 20:32
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Do I remember it wrong or soloQ was always loving terrible. Like, I'm missing dynamic q.
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Nov 25, 2016 21:08
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Be the change you want to see in the world.
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Bholder posted:Do I remember it wrong or soloQ was always loving terrible. Dynamic queue was horrible too, the only good queue was Team Builder.
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Nov 25, 2016 21:15
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its preseason and autofill is enabled in all skill brackets after a year of everyone playing exactly 2 roles, probably 1 role since everyone queued mid secondary.
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Neurolimal posted:It's a delicate balance; if you only gank top lane and dont have a 100% safe bot lane you can end up with 2 tilted allies, but if you focus entirely on bot lane you will end up with a lot of ganks that just dont earn any gold and set you behind (as well as potentially tilting top lane and earning an enemy assassin the 10 minute duration survival and damage buff). I feel like it really just depends on the lanes. When you're up against an aggresive but low mobility lane it sucks when your jungler just camps their obvious friend and spins his wheels for 20 minutes because he's going after someone with 30 dashes. In general after a certain mmr I think players on average understand lane matchups and won't really fault the jungler for camping easier targets if the lane they are up against would be hard to gank.
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As an addendum it can be hard to stop a fire in the bot lane once it starts burning because of the general ease of 4v2 dives and the fact that a lot of supports people play in solo q games are engage oriented so it's harder to just chill and farm after going down once so if they are struggling you probably should help. One of the reasons my friend and I climbed so consistently was I was supp and he was mid, if my lane started losing he'd just gank the people getting overaggressive. A lot of junglers seem to have like the opposite mentality and just give up on you once you start losing lane. Despite people usually being weakest after they burned flashes to get a kill or w/e.
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ArbitraryC posted:As an addendum it can be hard to stop a fire in the bot lane once it starts burning because of the general ease of 4v2 dives and the fact that a lot of supports people play in solo q games are engage oriented so it's harder to just chill and farm after going down once so if they are struggling you probably should help. This is actually a big part of the reason I like to play midlane over jungle, it's because it's pretty easy to 1) be farmed and 2) just run to whatever lane needs to be propped up. Ganking botlane as a jungler is like my least favorite thing to do.
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ArbitraryC posted:As an addendum it can be hard to stop a fire in the bot lane once it starts burning because of the general ease of 4v2 dives and the fact that a lot of supports people play in solo q games are engage oriented so it's harder to just chill and farm after going down once so if they are struggling you probably should help. the answer, as in most cases, is it depends. if the lane you are ganking is ridiculously fed all your ganks are going to do is feed the enemy harder. In the case of your lane dying once to the enemy lane it is actually a pretty good idea to gank like you said, especially if you know there are no wards nearby. How Rude fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Nov 26, 2016 |
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Nov 26, 2016 00:44
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Lissandra is actually still pretty solid despite nobody playing her/apparently nobody winning on her
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Also gently caress this level 3 jungle off two camps thing
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flyingkiwi posted:Lissandra is actually still pretty solid despite nobody playing her/apparently nobody winning on her i think people try to do too much with her. at bare minimum, a lissandra in your game should mean 2 or 3 carries from the other team need QSS and that's a pretty big deal until the game gets really late
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