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hito posted:++++++.... seems way too low for a Spriggan with 18 DEX and 15 Stealth. Did the values for how much stealth is in each plus change or something? Don't think so. It might also be slightly dinged from wearing the troll leather so it's just under 7 pips. Anyway, after a certain point you have to manufacture your own stab chances. This means either getting Invisibility via evocation or spell, use Confuse/EH (you *never* used them!), or summons for distract stabs. Since you appear to be eschewing the whole stabbing route altogether you can just move into further hybridization with long blade and charms.
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 19:11 |
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# ? May 15, 2024 03:43 |
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hito posted:++++++.... seems way too low for a Spriggan with 18 DEX and 15 Stealth. Did the values for how much stealth is in each plus change or something? Species and forms lost their stealth modifiers because the info was hidden.
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 21:49 |
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...Don't drink or crawl you'll leave your stack of 55 large rocks in a treasure trove. At least I'll get them back between okawaru and things. Enough of the loot was worth it that I don't feel too bad. From most to slightly interesting of the highlights +5 pearl dragon scales "Qafuqok" {+Blink rElec rN+ MR+}. +11 eveningstar "Daahom" {freeze, *Corrode rPois Str+3} the +2 giant spiked club of Division {drain, rC++} +3 slaying There was some other poo poo in there, like a solid +2 fire dragon scales and troll leather, but I've actually not been lacking this run.
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 21:59 |
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the ring of the Doge {MR+ Int+6}
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 22:45 |
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E Equals MC Hammer posted:I decided the game wasn't unpredictable enough so I chose a Troll Wanderer. Game gave me a bow, crossbow, and ammo and skills for both. Probably about as good as it is going to get. d:6 sigmund is not a very big deal.
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 22:59 |
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Huh, I guess that'd do it. I do enjoy removing secret aptitudes but it seems like Spriggans might deserve the +Stealth mut that Felids have, since unfitting armour seems to be a huge problem even in leather.
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 23:16 |
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odiv posted:the ring of the Doge {MR+ Int+6} I'm glad they brought the Doge name back after someone was like "oh someone made this word into a meme now, better delete it", which is a stupid reason to remove anything Randart names are fun, and good
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 23:28 |
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So, I'm playing Crawl again. I've got a Vinestalker of Hep running around Lair. I found Vampire's Tooth. Probably not worth it, right? God, it's weird playing a character with an AC under 35 and a base weapon damage under 15.
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 23:32 |
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E Equals MC Hammer posted:Latest guy, I was a troll with a huge number of good mutations, had 5 star piety with ashenzari, and had just found an unarmed combat manual. I could have xp transferred my skills to the moon, but I fought the queen bee and the queen bee +10 berserk killer bees won. always always always kite bees into a hallway if you don't have rPois fake edit: hell even if you do have rPois bees can be rude as hell in groups
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 00:02 |
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ZeeToo posted:So, I'm playing Crawl again. It's better than vampirism because it heals the full damage dealt instead of a fraction. It'll do you fine until you can fully enchant and brand that quickblade you're packing.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 00:12 |
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ZeeToo posted:God, it's weird playing a character with an AC under 35 and a base weapon damage under 15. Speaking of low base damage, I was surprised to find a +9 hand axe {flame} to be better than a +6 demon whip of slashing with Uskayaw against groups. I used the hand axe through most of swamp/spider/elf, hoping to find a broad axe at some point (using Ignorance, so the battle/execs I've found are useless). e: died from trying to be cute instead of just berserking with my handaxe. Corroded, confused, frozen, burned, all at once. rchandra fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Nov 25, 2016 |
# ? Nov 25, 2016 01:49 |
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Oh, god, this build is ridiculous. I just tabbed my way through the Snake Pit without rPois or using... I don't think any consumables? Not counting permafood, because I didn't get lucky with edible corpses. Edit: Hall of Blades had a dancing QUICK BLADE OF DISTORTION. As I was considering how to handle it, my ancestor spirit walked over to it and one-shot it. Now I get to pick between a +8 QB of venom or this distortion thing. ZeeToo fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Nov 25, 2016 |
# ? Nov 25, 2016 02:48 |
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Distortion always. It beats everything forever. Basically the only enemy who doesn't get completely chumped by distortion is the royal jelly, and that's only because you need to actually kill it since it ate the key to the slime vault. With an ancestor you can even mitigate minor blinking inconveniences.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 10:10 |
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Whats a good brand for a triple sword? I've got an elec one but I'm thinking either flaming or freezing would be better. E: Shoals 4: Bai Suzhen, Polyphemus and Mara encountered so far, ilsuiw still hiding somewhere. EE: Found her, she spawned with a summoning scroll for good measure. EEE: Can formicids get abyssed? Carcer fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Nov 25, 2016 |
# ? Nov 25, 2016 13:13 |
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Which one scales with weapon base damage? Is that freezing?
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 13:30 |
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New personal record! I got two DANG messages in the same turn. Ijyb on d2 with a wand of acid, the impact and acid splash both hit for more than half my hp.E Equals MC Hammer posted:Which one scales with weapon base damage? Is that freezing?
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 14:18 |
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Carcer posted:Whats a good brand for a triple sword? I've got an elec one but I'm thinking either flaming or freezing would be better. Freezing is technically a slightly better endgame brand than flaming. Because draconians and OoFs. Try to ninja the rune. Formicids can get abyssed.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 15:10 |
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Man I never took Zin as my god before. This is very smugifying. I get to just parade around with superhuman stats preaching about how all of these enemies suck.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 16:21 |
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Darox posted:Vorpal (slicing/crushing/etc), freezing, flaming and holy wrath scale their bonus damage on the damage dealt. Draining has partial scaling on weapon damage and partial flat damage, though lategame most of the big threats will resist it.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 17:20 |
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If I have three sources of regen (amulet, randart gloves, randart shield), do all three sources stack? And if I throw the regen spell on over that, does that stack with the other sources?
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 17:29 |
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All regen sources stack now. Drive it higher and higher.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 17:33 |
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Sage Grimm posted:All regen sources stack now. Drive it higher and higher. Tempted to lose the amulet for a +5 amulet of reflection. Good idea/Bad idea? I'd still have 2+1 sources of regen and reflect along with rmsl and Ru's "redirection" ? Or stay with 3+1 regen and rmsl/redirect?
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 17:38 |
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Fhqwhgads posted:Tempted to lose the amulet for a +5 amulet of reflection. Good idea/Bad idea? I'd still have 2+1 sources of regen and reflect along with rmsl and Ru's "redirection" ? Or stay with 3+1 regen and rmsl/redirect? Reflection is hilariously strong and lets you chew through places like Vaults and Elf and Orc. If you've already got a shitload of regen I'd go for it.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 17:52 |
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Fhqwhgads posted:Tempted to lose the amulet for a +5 amulet of reflection. Good idea/Bad idea? I'd still have 2+1 sources of regen and reflect along with rmsl and Ru's "redirection" ? Or stay with 3+1 regen and rmsl/redirect? Reflection does absolutely nothing to help protect you in and of itself (though the +5 SH will, of course). On the other hand, it is both very helpful and absolutely hilarious in places where people shoot or cast bolts at you. Vaults, Elf, Orc as mentioned, but I'm going to add Shoals - watching merfolk javelineers kill themselves rarely gets old. It's best if you also have a shield to stack your SH higher, of course, because it only reflects things you block. Which you do, so that's that covered. Honestly, you've already got a ton of regen, so I'd make the trade without a doubt. It would be much more area-dependent if that was your only source though. It's an offensive perk, not a defensive one, so ask yourself: will more damage (that you can't entirely control) help? That said, I'm also not a terribly great player, but that's how I look at it. Prism fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Nov 25, 2016 |
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Amulet of reflect and a shield of some sort makes a lot of the difficult branches easier. At least a third of the Vaults ambush killed itself from getting their missiles reflected back at themselves.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 18:25 |
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Carcer posted:Amulet of reflect and a shield of some sort makes a lot of the difficult branches easier. At least a third of the Vaults ambush killed itself from getting their missiles reflected back at themselves. Yeah I'm just doing a tanky GrFi^Ru that I finally got off the ground and am ready to do V5. My own lovely play will be the end of me though, I'm sure. http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Fhqwhgads/Fhqwhgads.txt
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 18:28 |
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Sage Grimm posted:Don't think so. It might also be slightly dinged from wearing the troll leather so it's just under 7 pips. You were right, confuse is great. Until monsters get good MR and have 0% chance. What's the way to handle those? Summons? https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/taqueso/taqueso.txt e: I found a quickblade of distortion in this game, too. I guess I should use it? If I'm going to use a weapon I don't want to unequip, maybe I should change to ash?
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 18:56 |
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If you want to continue down the Hexes route then you'll want Mass Confusion and Discord. Otherwise summons is your go-to distraction with your pivot point typically being Summon Mana Viper. For 3 runes Shadow Creatures is all you need.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 19:28 |
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I actually don't have access to any of those spells.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 19:31 |
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..Then Invisibility and/or further hybridization?
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 19:33 |
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Thanks to the Discord for walking me through Zot for my first win!code:
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 20:06 |
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An amulet of reflection 4-6 is the amulet I will prefer almost every single game. Only randarts with good resists will replace it. I like harm a whole lot also, but I tend to play so fast and loose it can tend to get me killed.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 20:26 |
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World Famous W posted:An amulet of reflection 4-6 is the amulet I will prefer almost every single game. Only randarts with good resists will replace it. Do you use it even if you don't have a shield and thus 4-6 is as high as you'll ever get it? I've heard both answers to that: that it's even more valuable if you don't because any SH is better than 0, or that it's less valuable without a big SH for tons of reflects.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 20:28 |
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Yep. 4 to 6 shield is still damage I ain't taking. I would always prefer to avoid damage then be able to heal quicker from it.
World Famous W fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Nov 25, 2016 |
# ? Nov 25, 2016 20:30 |
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Sage Grimm posted:If you want to continue down the Hexes route then you'll want Mass Confusion and Discord. Otherwise summons is your go-to distraction with your pivot point typically being Summon Mana Viper. For 3 runes Shadow Creatures is all you need. Mass Confusion was sadly removed.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 21:13 |
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Holy poo poo that flaming scimitar hits hard.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 21:17 |
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I did a crawl LP aimed at beginners a few years ago and it's pretty outdated now so I've started one for .19. Probably people who follow this thread won't get too much out of it, but feel free to shoot me whatever feedback and share it with non-crawlers in your life.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 21:30 |
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Did killer klown korpses () always cycle between their different forms?
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 21:43 |
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Carcer posted:Did killer klown korpses () always cycle between their different forms? Nope, that was changed when they became their own species.
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# ? Nov 25, 2016 21:47 |
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I've found 3 wands of heal wounds on this deep dwarf. Just hit Lair. It's taunting me.
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