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Still over a month left on this crazy ride of a year. Maybe we'll get an alien invasion!
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Nov 26, 2016 18:16
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That's a pretty clickbait tweet: quote:But, in a post on Medium, Marc Elias, the campaign's counsel, said the campaign's own investigation has not uncovered any evidence of hacking of voting systems. The campaign has no evidence of hacks and isn't contesting the results but will send lawyers to make sure Stein doesn't gently caress this up and make things worse.
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Nov 26, 2016 18:18
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I spent the better part of thirty minutes trying to explains to my dad and grandma that black people aren't treated equally and no one in this family is black and therefore we can't relate in the slightest to what the go through so maybe try listening to them when they say poo poo is hosed. But nope, this is America everyone deserves what they get. I hope we all die in nuclear hellfire
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Nov 26, 2016 18:19
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Mustached Demon posted:Still over a month left on this crazy ride of a year. Maybe we'll get an alien invasion! Humans are proof that higher intelligence is a evolutionary mistake ultimately leading to extinction so that's unlikely
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Nov 26, 2016 18:19
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Rated PG-34 posted:Humans are proof that higher intelligence is a evolutionary mistake ultimately leading to extinction so that's unlikely Unlikely is 2016 explained in one word.
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Nov 26, 2016 18:20
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Trabisnikof posted:That's a pretty clickbait tweet: So to stop one team of giant gently caress-ups, they're sending a team of equally incompetent gently caress-ups, great.
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Nov 26, 2016 18:23
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Thaddius the Large posted:So to stop one team of giant gently caress-ups, they're sending a team of equally incompetent gently caress-ups, great. The best gently caress ups money can buy
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Nov 26, 2016 18:23
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FYI Betsy DeVos and the rest of the DeVos clan are arch-villain level evil motherfuckers.quote:Betsy, who is 56, is the political junkie in the relationship. She got her start in politics as a "scatter-blitzer" for Gerald Ford's 1976 presidential campaign, which bused eager young volunteers to various cities so they could blanket them with campaign flyers. In the '80s and '90s, Betsy climbed the party ranks to become a Republican National Committeewoman, chair numerous US House and Senate campaigns in Michigan, lead statewide party fundraising, and serve two terms as chair of the Michigan Republican Party. In 2003, she returned at the request of the Bush White House to dig the party out of $1.2 million in debt. A major proponent of education reform, Betsy serves on the boards of the American Federation for Children, a leading advocate of school vouchers, and Jeb Bush's Foundation for Excellence in Education, which supports online schools. quote:DeVos and his allies had long since started working toward that goal. Their Michigan Freedom Fund is now a conglomerate of political vehicles, including a charitable foundation, a 501(c)(4) advocacy group, and a 527 political committee. "We're not the Chamber of Commerce; we're not the Republican Party," he says. The groups, McNeilly notes, will steer clear of social issues like abortion and gay rights, and instead promote a "freedom agenda" of lowering taxes, slashing regulations, and privatizing public education. The fund will recruit and groom candidates and campaign to send those politicians to Lansing. They want to get rid of all public education and collective bargaining. All so Republicans can win forever and they don't have to pay taxes. Republicans are scum.
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Nov 26, 2016 18:26
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blue squares posted:Oh my god it's not happening Bill Kristol tweet in 5... 4...
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Nov 26, 2016 18:27
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Hm, nothing on that, but we have this stupid tweet: https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/802520927334301699
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Nov 26, 2016 18:29
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How are people maintaining their faith in the american system of government, process and rule of law in the face of all of this? The recount is going to change nothing, but the GOP really does feel like an occupying force when they keep getting access to the levers of power in spite of not winning the most votes - and then ruthlessly exploit that to consolidate or gain more power. This is the 2nd time in my political life that's happened, and I'll bet the 2nd time voter suppression let them pull out the "legitimate" win. Hell, the president-elect is going to have to literally occupy a large chunk of prime NYC real estate, at an economic cost of billions, and somehow gets to use their own security forces to do it!
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Nov 26, 2016 18:31
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TheBigAristotle posted:Hm, nothing on that, but we have this stupid tweet: Isn't Manifest Destiny like a super duper loving racist thing? Why would he suggest that or use that phrase
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Nov 26, 2016 18:32
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Isn't Manifest Destiny like a super duper loving racist thing? Why would he suggest that or use that phrase Your first statement answers your second
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Nov 26, 2016 18:33
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Buffer posted:How are people maintaining their faith in the american system of government, process and rule of law in the face of all of this? Hate to tell you this, bud, but people overwhelmingly voted in Republicans to both houses of congress, governorships, and state legislatures too. It turns out that the Democratic strategy of stealing resources from those races to prop up an unpopular candidate was really, really bad Also if the election really was based in popular vote they probably still would have lost since turnouts would have been different
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Nov 26, 2016 18:34
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Buffer posted:How are people maintaining their faith in the american system of government, process and rule of law in the face of all of this? Same way I survived 14 years of George W Bush as governor or president, one day at a time.
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Nov 26, 2016 18:35
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Buffer posted:How are people maintaining their faith in the american system of government, process and rule of law in the face of all of this? The GOP and their extremely wealthy backers - The DeVos', The Kochs, and others - are absolutely an undemocratic occupying force. What you're seeing is the wealthy elite mounting an insurgency to bust unions and make it so they don't have to pay taxes and some of them are trying to incubate a Christian theocracy. It's not going to happen over night - these people plan things in terms of decades - but the future of America is a Christian theocracy where the rich don't pay taxes and the rest of us purchase public services through use fees. Huzanko fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Nov 26, 2016 |
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Nov 26, 2016 18:36
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Isn't Manifest Destiny like a super duper loving racist thing? Why would he suggest that or use that phrase Because it's Bill Kristol.
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Nov 26, 2016 18:36
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Xae posted:Definitely didn't bother to read the article then, because that wasn't the law at issue. So what's your argument exactly? Because the federal laws governing railway and airline unions are legitimately anti-labor and date back to active union busting efforts.
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Nov 26, 2016 18:36
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I love the people attacking the recount like it isn't the biggest non-story ever. She said she couldn't guarantee the money would go to it because she couldn't guarantee they'd let her do a recount in every state. She raised the money needed because that's how much she actually needs for each state. The people freaking out about how she's just gonna line her pockets and walk away are so blisteringly inane. It will legitimately happen and will find nothing. Why are you searching for a high horse here? Stein may be a nut but she's not a scam artist.
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Nov 26, 2016 18:38
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Paradoxish posted:So what's your argument exactly? Because the federal laws governing railway and airline unions are legitimately anti-labor and date back to active union busting efforts. Yes. gently caress strike laws. If a union wants to strike, they should be able to strike, not ask for loving permission.
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Nov 26, 2016 18:38
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Does anyone have any national statistics from this election that could be put into a nice visual format to illustrate "Number of people who voted Democrat vs. Republican" on one chart, and "Number of government seats that went to Democrats vs. Republicans" on another chart right beside it? I have a feeling that data might tell quite a loving story.
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Nov 26, 2016 18:38
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Huzanko posted:The GOP and their extremely wealthy backers - The DeVos', The Kochs, and others - are absolutely an undemocratic occupying force. The side that got hundreds of millions of dollars from Wall Street: not the wealthy elite. Got it.
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Nov 26, 2016 18:39
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TheBigAristotle posted:Hm, nothing on that, but we have this stupid tweet: I can get behind two more Democratic senators.
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Nov 26, 2016 18:40
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TheBigAristotle posted:Hm, nothing on that, but we have this stupid tweet: goddamnit southerners you lost war, give up on the Ostend manifesto already 
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Nov 26, 2016 18:43
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Quick Draw McGraw posted:The side that got hundreds of millions of dollars from Wall Street: not the wealthy elite. Got it. Wall St. bet on Clinton for the same reason many others did. She is a hell of a lot smarter and more stable than Donald Trump. Even Trump has said, in the past, that Democrats are better for the economy. Any kind of favorable legislation Wall St. may have got out of Clinton is nothing compared to the sweeping destructive changes to everything that are about to happen under Trump.
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Nov 26, 2016 18:43
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Huzanko posted:Yes. gently caress strike laws. If a union wants to strike, they should be able to strike, not ask for loving permission. On the other hand, with no strike laws that means if a company wants to fire anyone who strikes, they are able to.
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Nov 26, 2016 18:45
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Stultus Maximus posted:On the other hand, with no strike laws that means if a company wants to fire anyone who strikes, they are able to. That may work for like the Kroger union but gl finding an entire fleet of pilots quickly
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Nov 26, 2016 18:46
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Stultus Maximus posted:On the other hand, with no strike laws that means if a company wants to fire anyone who strikes, they are able to. Isn't the whole point of a union that you would have to fire everyone
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Nov 26, 2016 18:48
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Buffer posted:How are people maintaining their faith in the american system of government, process and rule of law in the face of all of this? There have been a lot more than two cases of voter suppression swinging the result of an election. The system has been hosed for literal centuries, it's just that everyone pretends otherwise because nobody can be trusted to change or fix it without trying to rig things in their side's favor somehow.
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Nov 26, 2016 18:51
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Arrgytehpirate posted:That may work for like the Kroger union but gl finding an entire fleet of pilots quickly Pilots on the lower end of the seniority list spend their off hours preparing Quesaritos for you at taco bell for minimum wage to make ends meet, so i dont suspect this would be as big an issue as other industries. (This of course before flying into a mountain because there is no time in there for sleep) Ask me about my first career 
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Nov 26, 2016 18:52
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Arrgytehpirate posted:That may work for like the Kroger union but gl finding an entire fleet of pilots quickly The death of unions began when Reagan fired all the air traffic controllers. When the government is willing to help out with labor-busting, it's not so hard.
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Nov 26, 2016 18:54
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MattD1zzl3 posted:Pilots on the lower end of the seniority list spend their off hours preparing Quesaritos for you at taco bell for minimum wage, so i dont suspect this would be as big an issue as other industries. (This of course before flying into a mountain because there is no time in there for sleep) I thought pilot was a six figure salary?
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Nov 26, 2016 18:54
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Cup Runneth Over posted:I love the people attacking the recount like it isn't the biggest non-story ever. She said she couldn't guarantee the money would go to it because she couldn't guarantee they'd let her do a recount in every state. She raised the money needed because that's how much she actually needs for each state. The people freaking out about how she's just gonna line her pockets and walk away are so blisteringly inane. It will legitimately happen and will find nothing. Why are you searching for a high horse here? Stein may be a nut but she's not a scam artist. She did actually file in WI, at least.
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Nov 26, 2016 18:54
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Isn't the whole point of a union that you would have to fire everyone Reagan had no problem doing that.
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Nov 26, 2016 18:55
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http://www.politico.com/story/2008/08/reagan-fires-11-000-striking-air-traffic-controllers-aug-5-1981-012292 Holy loving poo poo how is not working unless you get satisfactory compensation illegal? How have I never heard of this? schools in West Virginia suck ya'll.
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Nov 26, 2016 18:57
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Stultus Maximus posted:On the other hand, with no strike laws that means if a company wants to fire anyone who strikes, they are able to. Employers can already replace striking workers in many cases (ie, when unions are striking for higher wages), they just can't outright fire them for striking. They aren't even necessarily required to provide them with their old jobs back once negotiations conclude. Labor laws mostly exist to define what unions can't do, because workers acting collectively legitimately have much more power than the management of most organizations. Replacing a large organization's entire workforce, even temporarily, during anything other than times of extreme economic hardship is not trivial.
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Nov 26, 2016 18:57
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Buffer posted:How are people maintaining their faith in the american system of government, process and rule of law in the face of all of this? Trump almost certainly won by the agreed upon dumb rules that we've been dealing with for hundreds of years.
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Nov 26, 2016 18:58
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Arrgytehpirate posted:I thought pilot was a six figure salary? Entry level for pilots is between $30-50k and that's usually after ~$100k out of the pilot's pocket to get the training to fly people.
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Paradoxish posted:So what's your argument exactly? Because the federal laws governing railway and airline unions are legitimately anti-labor and date back to active union busting efforts. That people are circle jerking over fake news. The judge didn't decide based on Christmas without Amazon, he decided based on long standing laws that have been upheld, repeatedly.
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