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  *Extremely Bourgeois Voice*  "My grandfather's beach house!"
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Nov 27, 2016 18:49
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muh land on which afro-cubanos toiled for next to nothing and from which my family lived large on the profits from yankees buying cheap sugar
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Nov 27, 2016 18:57
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100 degrees Calcium posted:Castro good? very good
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Nov 27, 2016 19:03
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  Not my precious silver mines! How will I ever survive without exploiting the poor slave labor of my country!? Now I have to work for a living like a filthy prole?
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platzapS posted:What do yall think of Jacobin's obituary? I'm not going to read that
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VirtualStranger posted:
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VirtualStranger posted:
still don't think castro was a hero of the people or whatever but this is definitely bringing me around on him salty elites are amazing
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platzapS posted:What do yall think of Jacobin's obituary? Inasmuch as they tempered their praise with criticism it's pretty obvious that this is bourgeois propaganda garbage.
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I keep hearing people say Castro was bad, wish he died before his revolution and I'm just like, what did you want in Cuba then? Batista forever? A liberal democracy? Cool, and who's going to help the Cuban people set that up? Notorious friend of Batista, the USA? Annexation by Jamaica?
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VirtualStranger posted:
i've seen this happen dozens of times online and irl but i never get tired of it lmao
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There was some "The Nazis were bad but the Communists were worse" listicle on cracked dot com or some poo poo where one example of this principle in action is that the Soviets seized this one guy's family farm.
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Nov 27, 2016 23:12
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loving serfs stealing my silver!
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DrProsek posted:I keep hearing people say Castro was bad, wish he died before his revolution and I'm just like, what did you want in Cuba then? Batista forever? A liberal democracy? Cool, and who's going to help the Cuban people set that up? Notorious friend of Batista, the USA? Annexation by Jamaica? well castro could have helped by not killing and jailing dissenters, idk
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i just got into it on twitter with someone who started by pulling out the "communism killed a million bajillion people more than the nazis" and ended with this, posted about apartheid scratch an anticom... 
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Communists spread mass literacy so the people can make informed decisions, while the governor of Michigan argues that Detroit students don't have a right to literacy.
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Nov 28, 2016 00:38
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Kurtofan posted:well castro could have helped by not killing and jailing dissenters, idk Not sure where I disagreed with that. All I said was the people going "Fidel did some bad stuff ergo Cuba was better without him" leave out that without him there was Batista (and subsequently don't ask "Was Fidel better or worse than Batista?") and there wasn't really any other alternative since the big powers in the region were perfectly happy with Cuban dictatorship (as long as it was US friendly dictatorship of course).
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DrProsek posted:Not sure where I disagreed with that. All I said was the people going "Fidel did some bad stuff ergo Cuba was better without him" leave out that without him there was Batista (and subsequently don't ask "Was Fidel better or worse than Batista?") and there wasn't really any other alternative since the big powers in the region were perfectly happy with Cuban dictatorship (as long as it was US friendly dictatorship of course). by the same token "usa did bad things therefore fidel is good" holds no water at all there's a lot of people(okay some people(okay just forums poster Pener Kropoopkin)) pretending that fidel was a glorious hero of the people just because he was communist guess what the crazy communist dictator did some crazy things
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Yinlock posted:guess what the crazy communist dictator did some crazy things I don't want anyone to die or get hurt or anything, really. But it was a revolution against a US backed dictator and a defense against the most powerful state on the planet that regularly terrorized, blockaded and threatened the island.. Can you provide some primary source evidence of bad things he's done then furthermore put the decisions he made in context? Crocodile tears about nebulous victims of bad communists isn't really getting us anywhere yet you keep insisting to do that.. Deimus fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Nov 28, 2016 |
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Nov 28, 2016 01:15
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Deimus, please, contextualizing historical crimes is only for dead 18th century gentry justifying keeping slavery in a republic of liberty. By the way, for anyone having trouble keeping up, this is not "founder fathers did a bad there4 castro gud" it's "Perhaps reflect on the way historical actors are treated differently in the discourse depending on ideological orientation," h(ope )t(his )h(elps).
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Yinlock posted:by the same token "usa did bad things therefore fidel is good" holds no water at all https://twitter.com/Chemzes/status/802996134075662336
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Of all socialist principals, why is democracy the one socialists are least eager to put into practice? Even after generations of one party control?
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https://twitter.com/JuddApatow/status/803031170149679108 Our celebrities are independently coming up with traditional radical tactics
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Nov 28, 2016 01:48
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thats the best version of this joke ive seen, nice
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Nov 28, 2016 02:00
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hot take: fidel castro did good things AND bad things
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how many times do i have to tell you that it's "enhanced interrorgation"? the lawyers said it wasn't torture! those guys never lie!
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VirtualStranger posted:
I grew up in Miami. My father once told me that if every exile family had the acreage they claimed in the stories like this, Cuba would be the size of China.
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Nov 28, 2016 02:46
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:Of all socialist principals, why is democracy the one socialists are least eager to put into practice? Even after generations of one party control? there's more than one kind of democracy
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I grew up in awe of Fidel for having gotten the US to take what had to be the worst people of his country. The viciousness and incompetence of the Exilio political elite may have been the basis for my baby brain deciding that rich people use their wealth to hide how bad at everything they are. but then this was florida so i didnt exactly want for instructional examples
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Homework Explainer posted:there's more than one kind of democracy Your admiration of Soviet democracy is already a matter of record, but I think a serious answer would be useful.
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:Your admiration of Soviet democracy is already a matter of record, but I think a serious answer would be useful. my answer was serious. here's a question: do you genuinely think the only valid form of democracy is the bourgeois parliament
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Homework Explainer posted:my answer was serious. here's a question: do you genuinely think the only valid form of democracy is the bourgeois parliament No. Here's a question for you: what are some socialist states you can name that you would describe as "democracies."
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Darkman Fanpage posted:hot take: fidel castro did good things AND bad things
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:Your admiration of Soviet democracy is already a matter of record, but I think a serious answer would be useful. he actually tried to defend north korea earlier so i don't think you're gonna get much here e: oops that was forums poster pener who is also extremely bad, and not homework explainer Yinlock fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Nov 28, 2016 |
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