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BallerBallerDillz
Jun 11, 2009

Cock, Rules, Everything, Around, Me
Scratchmo

CitizenKain posted:

Internet of (Horse) things:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/903997910/the-connected-body-suit-that-watches-over-your-hor

Although talking to a friend to cares for a horse, she is super excited about this.

Sir could you please stop your horse from dDoSing my toaster.

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WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

CitizenKain posted:

Internet of (Horse) things:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/903997910/the-connected-body-suit-that-watches-over-your-hor

Although talking to a friend to cares for a horse, she is super excited about this.

Hahahaha I'm imagining the alert that comes through when your horse had a heart attack because it imagined there's a fly nearby.

Moneyball
Jul 11, 2005

It's a problem you think we need to explain ourselves.
The important question here is how would you monetize micro-transactions for that?

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


Include a built-in defibrillator and charge for every jolt administered.

Bhodi
Dec 9, 2007

Oh, it's just a cat.
Pillbug
I like that it's a subscription service which offers 6m or 1yr contracts on an animal that will at some point critically injure themselves while you are away. I guess you can just slap it on your new horse and move on.

Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.

Bhodi posted:

I like that it's a subscription service which offers 6m or 1yr contracts on an animal that will at some point critically injure themselves while you are away. I guess you can just slap it on your new horse and move on.

Moving it to a new horse would be a breach of the TOS.

ALERT: PRINCESS SUNSHINE SPRINKLES IS STILL DEAD.

LordSaturn
Aug 12, 2007

sadly unfunny

CitizenKain posted:

Internet of (Horse) things:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/903997910/the-connected-body-suit-that-watches-over-your-hor

Although talking to a friend to cares for a horse, she is super excited about this.

poor freckles, thought of NAT and died

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!

LordSaturn posted:

poor freckles, thought of NAT and died

I'm not empty quoting.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

CitizenKain posted:

Internet of (Horse) things:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/903997910/the-connected-body-suit-that-watches-over-your-hor

Although talking to a friend to cares for a horse, she is super excited about this.

Seems like a reasonable thing, and the price isn't crazy either. :shrug:

LordSaturn posted:

poor freckles, thought of NAT and died

:eyepop:

CitizenKain
May 27, 2001

That was Gary Cooper, asshole.

Nap Ghost

Volmarias posted:

Seems like a reasonable thing, and the price isn't crazy either. :shrug:


:eyepop:

Yea, honestly its a useful thing with as touchy as horses can be. My friend's horse almost died a few years ago because of colic.

Hydronium
Oct 23, 2008
Is the MLM thread still around somewhere? My boyfriend got convinced into going to a presentation for some sort of insane scheme. I hesitate to even call it an MLM because they never explained anything and there's nothing about them online. Otherwise I'll post here--whatever it is, it's definitely bad with money.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

Hydronium posted:

Is the MLM thread still around somewhere? My boyfriend got convinced into going to a presentation for some sort of insane scheme. I hesitate to even call it an MLM because they never explained anything and there's nothing about them online. Otherwise I'll post here--whatever it is, it's definitely bad with money.

:sever:

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

CitizenKain posted:

Yea, honestly its a useful thing with as touchy as horses can be. My friend's horse almost died a few years ago because of colic.

Presumably would also help those people who thought that they had a horse boarding somewhere and then when they tried to go get it the guy turned evasive and suddenly told them that it died or whatever.

BonerGhost
Mar 9, 2007

Ashcans posted:

Presumably would also help those people who thought that they had a horse boarding somewhere and then when they tried to go get it the guy turned evasive and suddenly told them that it died or whatever.

And then their brother who is a human doctor totally just put it down because it definitely works that way.

Konstantin
Jun 20, 2005
And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.
Someone could set up a horse based Ponzi scheme. Have a barn with a few horses, and "sell" them to multiple absentee owners, pocketing the sale price and extra boarding fees. If someone wants to move or resell the horse either offer discounts to keep it at the barn or say it died.

Konstantin fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Nov 26, 2016

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

Hydronium posted:

Is the MLM thread still around somewhere? My boyfriend got convinced into going to a presentation for some sort of insane scheme. I hesitate to even call it an MLM because they never explained anything and there's nothing about them online. Otherwise I'll post here--whatever it is, it's definitely bad with money.
Aw, sweet young love. Unless you're not 16 and naive, then :sever:

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

Konstantin posted:

Someone could set up a horse based Ponzi scheme. Have a barn with a few horses, and "sell" them to multiple absentee owners, pocketing the sale price and extra boarding fees. If someone wants to move or resell the horse either offer discounts to keep it at the barn or say it died.

I remember a old Law and Order episode that had the same thing. Buy crappy horses for dirt cheap, sell em to rich old ladies by claiming the horse was Son of Secretariat.

n8r
Jul 3, 2003

I helped Lowtax become a cyborg and all I got was this lousy avatar

Volmarias posted:

Seems like a reasonable thing, and the price isn't crazy either. :shrug:


:eyepop:

Underwritten by the large animal vets everywhere in the world. Some lovely heart rate monitor + pedometer will shoot off bad data to people who think their horse is on death's door. They call the vet to check the horse out for some insane fee. Nevermind that wearing some stupid horse bra will probably irritate their skin leading to more vet appointments.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...
So what you're saying is that the developers and their partners are very GWM.

Cockmaster
Feb 24, 2002

Volmarias posted:

Seems like a reasonable thing, and the price isn't crazy either. :shrug:

You don't even need to bother with the subscription service if you transfer data from the vest to your device. Of course, that would require that you regularly do stuff with your horse, as opposed to buying one as a status symbol and rarely going anywhere near where you've boarded it.

Spermy Smurf
Jul 2, 2004

NancyPants posted:

And then their brother who is a human doctor totally just put it down because it definitely works that way.

I am not a doctor but I am fairly certain I could put down a horse if need be. Or if I need to lie and tell someone their horse was put down.

Switchback
Jul 23, 2001

BigDave posted:

I remember a old Law and Order episode that had the same thing. Buy crappy horses for dirt cheap, sell em to rich old ladies by claiming the horse was Son of Secretariat.

We've touched on this story already but probably hundreds of pages ago so let's recap:
Horse Murders Scandal from the 70s to 90s

quote:

The horse murders scandal refers to cases of insurance fraud in the United States in which expensive horses, many of them show jumpers, were insured against death, accident, or disease, and then killed to collect the insurance money. It is not known how many horses were killed in this manner between the mid-1970s and the mid-1990s, when a Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) investigation brought the horse killings to light, but the number is thought to be well over 50, and may have been as high as 100. In addition, in 1977, the heiress Helen Brach disappeared and was presumed by law enforcement agents to have been murdered by the perpetrators of these crimes, because she threatened to report their criminal activity to authorities; continuing investigations into Brach's death began to uncover the insurance fraud in the 1990s.

An interesting bit of trivia in this case is the daughter of one of the horse murderers was Lisa Druck, and her dad killed her horse when she was 17. She later changed her name to Rielle Hunter and had an illegitimate baby with John Edwards during his presidential campaign.

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
Is there a worse pet than horses in terms of being BWM?

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

Pureauthor posted:

Is there a worse pet than horses in terms of being BWM?

Maybe super exotics like tigers or zebras.

Old Binsby
Jun 27, 2014

A guy I work with switched from fresh water to salt water fish in his aquarium. He's spending more on salt and poo poo to maintain and grow some coral-like structure in there and pumps and whatnot than I imagined possible. Also the fish and live worms etc they eat are much more expensive than the sweet water equivalent.

But I imagine it still doesn't come close to horse levels of money.

Dr. Eldarion
Mar 21, 2001

Deal Dispatcher

Pureauthor posted:

Is there a worse pet than horses in terms of being BWM?

no but you see a horse isn't a pet it's a lifestyle

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

Old Binsby posted:

A guy I work with switched from fresh water to salt water fish in his aquarium. He's spending more on salt and poo poo to maintain and grow some coral-like structure in there and pumps and whatnot than I imagined possible. Also the fish and live worms etc they eat are much more expensive than the sweet water equivalent.

But I imagine it still doesn't come close to horse levels of money.
Aquariums are like horses in that they randomly die and then cost a fuckloaf of money to deal with the corpse.

BEHOLD: MY CAPE
Jan 11, 2004

cowofwar posted:

Aquariums are like horses in that they randomly die and then cost a fuckloaf of money to deal with the corpse.

Fish thought about a 1 ppt change in salinity or 1° temperature change and died

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

cowofwar posted:

Aquariums are like horses in that they randomly die and then cost a fuckloaf of money to deal with the corpse.

Looks like your investment just went...

belly up.

:hehe:

Virigoth
Apr 28, 2009

Corona rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M. get the virus
In the ICU y'all......



Old Binsby posted:

sweet water equivalent.

The most American thing

lavaca
Jun 11, 2010

cowofwar posted:

Aquariums are like horses in that they randomly die and then cost a fuckloaf of money to deal with the corpse.

A co-worker used to have a saltwater aquarium. One night it sprung a leak and dumped 29 gallons of water on the floor. She had to rip up the carpet on the second floor and point hot fans at the ceiling below (during a heatwave, no less) to prevent the beams from collapsing or rotting. I didn't ask how the fish fared.

Dogfish
Nov 4, 2009

Virigoth posted:

The most American thing

"Sweet water" is the literal translation of "freshwater" in French, German, Dutch, and probably lots more languages that I don't speak. Pretty common mistranslation for non-native speakers of English.

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

Pureauthor posted:

Is there a worse pet than horses in terms of being BWM?

Possibly a chimpanzee, because they are also expensive to take care of but when they freak out instead of dying they go on a bezerker rampage and tear peoples faces/arms off.

BAE OF PIGS
Nov 28, 2016

Tup
My uncle used to have a horse. The recession destroyed his used car business and now him and his wife are working low wage jobs to get by because what a shock they have no savings.

Anza Borrego
Feb 11, 2005

Ovis canadensis nelsoni

Old Binsby posted:

A guy I work with switched from fresh water to salt water fish in his aquarium. He's spending more on salt and poo poo to maintain and grow some coral-like structure in there and pumps and whatnot than I imagined possible. Also the fish and live worms etc they eat are much more expensive than the sweet water equivalent.

But I imagine it still doesn't come close to horse levels of money.

As a former saltwater aquarium hobbyist let me assure you it can be as BWM as horse ownership. Horses don't often spring leaks in your condo and waterfall into your neighbors below you, or ruin your carpets and furniture.

BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:

Fish thought about a 1 ppt change in salinity or 1° temperature change and died

Pretty much. The more complicated the animal the more likely it is to go belly up when a power outage causes a chain reaction of water quality problems.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Salt water aquarium? Psh, I exclusively raise bacteria that can only exist in the anoxic, superheated conditions of hydrothermal vents. Running the in-home volcano simulator costs several thousand dollars a day but it's so worth it for the special companionship.

BigHead
Jul 25, 2003
Huh?


Nap Ghost

ate all the Oreos posted:

Salt water aquarium? Psh, I exclusively raise bacteria that can only exist in the anoxic, superheated conditions of hydrothermal vents. Running the in-home volcano simulator costs several thousand dollars a day but it's so worth it for the special companionship.

Weird, were you the guy I just bought the superheated hydrothermal vent from on Craigslist? Great place to keep my pet tardigrades, and not a big market for used hydrothermal vents so they go for like five bucks. In fact, pet tardigrades are super gwm because every time your vent breaks down you can usually just find a used leaky aquarium or vacuum chamber or unwashed mole den or McDonald's fry machine super cheap.

hanales
Nov 3, 2013

Noggin Monkey posted:

As a former saltwater aquarium hobbyist let me assure you it can be as BWM as horse ownership. Horses don't often spring leaks in your condo and waterfall into your neighbors below you, or ruin your carpets and furniture.


Pretty much. The more complicated the animal the more likely it is to go belly up when a power outage causes a chain reaction of water quality problems.

I worked at a company where they purchased a 20'x10'x6' custom salt water tank. They proceeded to have it filled, then put all these sharks, puffers, and other things in there. From what I understand they spent a couple hundred K getting it set up and buying all the fish.

Everything was dead 2 months later.

They tried to save money by having the maintenance guy watch youtube videos on salt water tank maintenance, and finally blew a ton more on specialists from the Cleveland Aquarium and other local science places try to figure it out.

Everything still died.

Don't know where they are now (they are still in business) but I got a new job while they were laying off half the work force after losing a couple big contracts (but still had aquarium staff trying to save the vanity project).

I guess you could say they had some sunk costs.

Moneyball
Jul 11, 2005

It's a problem you think we need to explain ourselves.

hanales posted:



I guess you could say they had some sunk costs.


Volmarias posted:

Looks like your investment just went...

belly up.

:hehe:

Somebody get The Who an account

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Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
That's a good way to gently caress up your catch.

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