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Libertalia is clearly the pinnacle of advanced piratical engineering. The whole island unfolds into a robot.
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Libertalius Prime: Autobots, gather me booty and hoist the anchor!
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Nov 28, 2016 09:01
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CJacobs posted:Libertalius Prime: British East India company obstruction detected. Possibility of piracy hindrance: zero percent.
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Nov 28, 2016 09:14
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chiasaur11 posted:To put it mildly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ching_Shih quote:Ching Shih's code had special rules for female captives. Standard practice was to release women, but J.L. Turner witnessed differently. Usually the pirates made their most beautiful captives their concubines or wives. If a pirate took a wife he had to be faithful to her.[12] The ones deemed unattractive were released and any remaining were ransomed. Pirates that raped female captives were put to death, but if pirates had consensual sex with captives, the pirate was beheaded and the woman he was with had cannonballs attached to her legs and was thrown over the side of the boat.[6][9]:29[12] seems a mite harsh.
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Nov 28, 2016 10:15
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double nine posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ching_Shih Pirates tend to be very over the top when it come to the rules being broken, I mean the rule of sneaking a woman or a child merely on board a pirate ship will get you killed. Tends to ensure no rule breakers, and it makes you a terrifying figure.
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Nov 28, 2016 10:34
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There's such an irony to all the ways that pirates are democratic and egalitarian towards eachother, because this is in an era where it is expected and deemed necessary for sailing ships to be brutal iron-fisted dictatorships. Sailors were regularly flogged like slaves. You could probably make a good study on how the absolute power captains got at sea drove them to abuse it, and how those conditions specifically motivated crews to go rogue in the first place.
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Nov 28, 2016 18:40
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SlothfulCobra posted:There's such an irony to all the ways that pirates are democratic and egalitarian towards eachother, because this is in an era where it is expected and deemed necessary for sailing ships to be brutal iron-fisted dictatorships. Sailors were regularly flogged like slaves. Historian Marcus Rediker has done a lot of research into this aspect of piracy and into the lives of sailors during the Age of Sail in general. His book Villains of All Nations is an excellent book if you're interested in this aspect of piracy.
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Nov 28, 2016 23:57
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Libertalia actually fell because Ching Shih found out about it, and decided that she didn't like it.
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Nov 29, 2016 22:53
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Pyroi posted:Libertalia actually fell because Ching Shih found out about it, and decided that she didn't like it. Libertalia fell because she invited them to her gambling house once she happily retired from piracy. There is no gold left because the house always wins.
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Nov 30, 2016 09:18
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Libertaria fell. Literally they loaded it down with so many statues and puzzles that it sank deep into the earth and disappeared forever
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Nov 30, 2016 16:55
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The Drakes are actually banking on Libertalia having been a horrible failure. The absolute worst thing would be if they found it and it was still full of angry pirates.
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Nov 30, 2016 17:03
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:Libertaria fell. Literally they loaded it down with so many statues and puzzles that it sank deep into the earth and disappeared forever Just heading down the shops to buy milk involved surpassing three death traps, solving a puzzle involving arcane astronomical lore and climbing a sheer cliff while being pelted with rocks.
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Nov 30, 2016 17:03
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Gorilla Salad posted:Just heading down the shops to buy milk involved surpassing three death traps, solving a puzzle involving arcane astronomical lore and climbing a sheer cliff while being pelted with rocks. Hey, either you want to be a pirate or you don't. No time-wasters. 
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Nov 30, 2016 17:12
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What would be just perfect would it be turning out that one of the pirates stole the drat treasure and sailed off laughing. Be a perfect way to cap off an idea of a 'liberty' society based on murderous thieves.
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Nov 30, 2016 17:28
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Gorilla Salad posted:Just heading down the shops to buy milk involved surpassing three death traps, solving a puzzle involving arcane astronomical lore and climbing a sheer cliff while being pelted with rocks. ... if we were lucky!
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Nov 30, 2016 17:31
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Gorilla Salad posted:Just heading down the shops to buy milk involved surpassing three death traps, solving a puzzle involving arcane astronomical lore and climbing a sheer cliff while being pelted with rocks. And swimming uphill! Both ways!
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Nov 30, 2016 17:38
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SlothfulCobra posted:The Drakes are actually banking on Libertalia having been a horrible failure. The absolute worst thing would be if they found it and it was still full of angry pirates. No theyre avtually counting on angry pirates since when drug lord guy shows up uninvited they sic them on him.
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Nov 30, 2016 17:38
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Rigged Death Trap posted:No theyre avtually counting on angry pirates since when drug lord guy shows up uninvited they sic them on him. now to work on my Uncharted 4/Sonic 3 and Knuckles crossover fanfic.
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Nov 30, 2016 18:58
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Samovar posted:What would be just perfect would it be turning out that one of the pirates stole the drat treasure and sailed off laughing. Be a perfect way to cap off an idea of a 'liberty' society based on murderous thieves. I would love to see the other way, where this whole thing is just one huge goofy as hell rube-goldberge-esque ploy to rob other pirates, like they hop off the boat to Pirate Freedom Land: Land of Free Pirates And Not Getting Killed™, then Avery just runs up, stabs them, and unloads their boat. It just so happens that one of Avery's buddies REALLY liked complex mechanical puzzles, so they just rolled it into the plan
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Nov 30, 2016 21:23
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Danaru posted:I would love to see the other way, where this whole thing is just one huge goofy as hell rube-goldberge-esque ploy to rob other pirates, like they hop off the boat to Pirate Freedom Land: Land of Free Pirates And Not Getting Killed™, then Avery just runs up, stabs them, and unloads their boat. It just so happens that one of Avery's buddies REALLY liked complex mechanical puzzles, so they just rolled it into the plan FYI I am actually laughing aloud at this prospect. Just "HA HA GOTCHA DOOFUS" right at the end of what surely was an incredibly long and arduous journey back in the pyrating days.
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Nov 30, 2016 21:27
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CJacobs posted:FYI I am actually laughing aloud at this prospect. Just "HA HA GOTCHA DOOFUS" right at the end of what surely was an incredibly long and arduous journey back in the pyrating days. Well, anyone making the journey will either be well off enough to be worth robbing or otherwise so drained that it would be a simple matter to off them.
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Nov 30, 2016 21:31
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Well that's the thing right, he wouldn't really even have to kill them if the latter was the case. Surely somebody along the journey would've been like "ok fine you can have my loot but hey man I came all the way here can I at least have room and board" and what kind of an honorable pyrate-to-pyrate guy would Avery be if he said no? Maybe that's what Libertalia really is, a bed & breakfast for tired pyrates with a really steep overnight fee.
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Nov 30, 2016 22:30
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I'm actually really surprised that there hasn't been any crazy mystical things in this game yet. The rest of the games in the series not only ended with magic junk , but by this point they had put in some kind of mystic red herring (the native traps in UC1, the yeti in UC2, and the spiders and crazy drugs in UC3). It really gives me doubts about where this is all going. We're already waiting for the druglord to show up again, are we going to have to deal with a druglord and his goons, Rafe and his PMC, and a crazy pirate curse ghost armada at the same time? I guess there's a chance that Nate's brother was lying about being threatened by the druglord? He was certainly acting like he was holding something back, but that would feel like such a cheat from the game since it'd mean the game's been an unreliable narrator in the cutscenes when it never has before.
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Nov 30, 2016 23:14
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that guy that said libertalia sunk because it was too heavy was right turns out the pirate paradise is also atlantis and the prologue was actually there to teach you how to swim for the endgame
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Dec 1, 2016 00:05
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The treasure was fool's gold all along--pyrate pyrite.
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Dec 1, 2016 00:20
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:Libertaria fell. Literally they loaded it down with so many statues and puzzles that it sank deep into the earth and disappeared forever This is actually the third Libertalia they built. The first one was built to be a grand pyrate utopia... and then it sank. So then they built the second one to be just like the first... and that sank too. But the third time, that one stayed afloat.
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Dec 1, 2016 00:21
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libertalia was sea world the whole time the final boss is shamu with a pirate's hat and eyepatch
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Dec 1, 2016 00:28
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Please do not insult r libertalia by comparing it to sea world. For one thing they are less ethically compromised
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Dec 1, 2016 00:34
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Libertalia is where the Rio Poneglyph that reveals the Lost History of the world is located.
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Dec 1, 2016 00:34
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For Gods sake its just Rapture 0.5
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Dec 1, 2016 00:44
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libertalia is the original seastead
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Dec 1, 2016 01:15
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Funky Valentine posted:Libertalia is where the Rio Poneglyph that reveals the Lost History of the world is located. Wait a minute, if Avery is Libertalia's leader - a sort of pirate king, if you will -, does that mean...?!
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Dec 1, 2016 01:17
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Man, having finished the game, and reading some of this speculation, I am greatly amused and looking forward to the near future of the Drake Boys' adventure.
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Dec 1, 2016 01:24
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The Drake Boys will run into the Boxcar Children and then you're going to see some serious poo poo
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Dec 1, 2016 01:57
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placid saviour posted:Wait a minute, if Avery is Libertalia's leader - a sort of pirate king, if you will -, does that mean...?! He's Kevin Kline? I could live with that.
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Dec 1, 2016 03:06
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Zomborgon posted:Well, anyone making the journey will either be well off enough to be worth robbing or otherwise so drained that it would be a simple matter to off them. Avery's real secret plan was to open a chain of Pyrate supply stores across England and Africa and charge outrageous markups on supplies.
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SlothfulCobra posted:I'm actually really surprised that there hasn't been any crazy mystical things in this game yet. The rest of the games in the series not only ended with magic junk , but by this point they had put in some kind of mystic red herring (the native traps in UC1, the yeti in UC2, and the spiders and crazy drugs in UC3). It really gives me doubts about where this is all going. We're already waiting for the druglord to show up again, are we going to have to deal with a druglord and his goons, Rafe and his PMC, and a crazy pirate curse ghost armada at the same time? To be fair we just got to the big island where everything supposedly is. Since 1 is all one island and 2 the Yeti's only appear near the city, if there's anything weird it has to be near the source. 3 was weird with the spiders everywhere, but I remember a lot of people not liking that.
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Gorilla Salad posted:Avery's real secret plan was to open a chain of Pyrate supply stores across England and Africa and charge outrageous markups on supplies. If it's not one big "HEH GOT 'EM" prank/robbery/murder thing, I want it to be a Pirates Sans Frontieres situation where Avery and his men invent doritos and mountain dew and fight a giant wooden automaton threatening to throw the world into a grapeshot war. Piloted by Ching Shih 
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Dec 1, 2016 04:09
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placid saviour posted:Wait a minute, if Avery is Libertalia's leader - a sort of pirate king, if you will -, does that mean...?! He wants to eat all the meat himself.
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Really Pants posted:The treasure was fool's gold all along--pyrate pyrite. 
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