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Skellybones
May 31, 2011




Fun Shoe

Fat Twitter Man posted:

This post does a lot to validate my career choice in Park Service law enforcement.

Thank you for your service.

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Bonfire Lit
Jul 9, 2008

If you're one of the sinners who caused this please unfriend me now.

I'm the literal domestic terrorists who're surprised they might have been placed on a terrorist watchlist

Bonfire Lit has issued a correction as of 01:20 on Nov 27, 2016

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
The system works.

Marijuana Nihilist
Aug 27, 2015

by Smythe

quote:

The listing has given Ritzheimer a new perspective on Muslims, a group he notoriously antagonized. In 2015, he organized an armed protest outside a Phoenix mosque. He told CNN's Anderson Cooper that "True Islam is terrorism."

But in June, Ritzheimer reached out to the Council on American-Islamic Relations, offering to join the organization in a lawsuit challenging the watch list. The subject line said: "Olive Branch."

The council never got back to him, he said.

hahaha oh my god

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
Ritzi does not strike me as a smart man.

Vilas Kraut
Jul 15, 2000

Fat Twitter Man posted:

This post does a lot to validate my career choice in Park Service law enforcement.

In your experience, how stupid does a person have to be to get caught smoking weed in a 1,000 square mile national park?

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Marijuana Nihilist posted:

hahaha oh my god

how the gently caress did we as species manage to survive this long?

Kazak_Hstan
Apr 28, 2014

Grimey Drawer

Vilas Kraut posted:

In your experience, how stupid does a person have to be to get caught smoking weed in a 1,000 square mile national park?

Pretty dumb.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Trumps Baby Hands posted:

the land was there--undisturbed for millions of years and doing just fine--without people with dumb khaki hats and weaponized flashlights telling you where you can and where you cannot smoke weed

even if it's legal in the state you are in

can't inhale the smoke from this plant-based matter while surrounded by trees in the middle of nowhere because it's "federal property"

the land shouldn't be "private" either, it should just be land, man

public service announcement: this is not a convincing argument to the khaki fascists and will not prevent them from writing you up

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

lmao

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Bonfire Lit posted:

I'm the literal domestic terrorists who're surprised they might have been placed on a terrorist watchlist

uh these guys can't be terrorists none of them are darker than like a #E3A173

Fat Twitter Man
Jan 24, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Vilas Kraut posted:

In your experience, how stupid does a person have to be to get caught smoking weed in a 1,000 square mile national park?

Depends on the park and the AUSA. Some places have mandatory court appearances for simple possession and some AUSA's will throw out any marijuana citation you bring them. Even in the most stringent park, if you aren't smoking in a campground or popular frontcountry area, you'd really have to work to get caught. One case I can think of, the guy was in a backcountry campsite but rangers went to check on his campsite because he was walking along a road with a whiskey bottle wearing a bear costume. It may well have been Trump's Baby Hands.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Fat Twitter Man posted:

One case I can think of, the guy was in a backcountry campsite but rangers went to check on his campsite because he was walking along a road with a whiskey bottle wearing a bear costume. It may well have been Trump's Baby Hands.

This is now thread canon.

Kazak_Hstan
Apr 28, 2014

Grimey Drawer
It's a mandatory appearance in my region, which is why every ranger I know ignores it unless forced to care. I'm not leaving the park for two days and filing out a travel authorization for a joint.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


There shouldn't be any rules in the wilderness man!

*Starts a forest fire with their joint
*Puts a bison calf in their car so its mother rejects it
*Goes skinny dipping in hot spring, dies, family sues

Fat Twitter Man
Jan 24, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Kazak_Hstan posted:

It's a mandatory appearance in my region, which is why every ranger I know ignores it unless forced to care. I'm not leaving the park for two days and filing out a travel authorization for a joint.

I won't say there aren't districts or individuals that go looking for it, but most of the time it's not something worth going after.

The_Book_Of_Harry
Apr 30, 2013

Vilas Kraut posted:

In your experience, how stupid does a person have to be to get caught smoking weed in a 1,000 square mile national park?

I went to group addiction therapy with a kid who had recently signed-onto a volunteer/work-study sort of deal at Yellowstone National Park.

Two nights into the job, he got caught strolling and smoking, losing his position, and being forced into outpatient rehab in lieu of heavier prosecution.

All of us addicts felt tremendously sorry for the poor kid.

Kazak_Hstan
Apr 28, 2014

Grimey Drawer
Everyone I've worked with who came from Yellowstone has been pretty by-the-book.

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

I'd imagine it's a situation of too many idiots not to be. Went and saw Old Faithful with my parents when I was kid and a younger kid was under the rope reaching towards one of the rivulets that run along the ground. Some alert adult grabbed him back, but I guess those are all at some crazy temperature?

Kazak_Hstan
Apr 28, 2014

Grimey Drawer
Visitation numbers certainly change enforcement dynamics. I work parks with relatively low visitation, so I have the luxury of tailoring my enforcement decisions to places / individuals / circumstances and relying on relationship building with commercial operators to achieve the lion's share of the resource protection goal. That's not really possible when you count visitors in the millions. But the Yellowstone crowd is a different kind of animal. We have to coach the 'write a ticket every time and find excuses to write more' impulse out of most newcomers from high visitation parks, but it's a different sort of task with someone from, say, Blue Ridge, than it is from Yellowstone. There's a "Yellowstone way" that seems to stick with people.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Relevant Tangent posted:

I'd imagine it's a situation of too many idiots not to be. Went and saw Old Faithful with my parents when I was kid and a younger kid was under the rope reaching towards one of the rivulets that run along the ground. Some alert adult grabbed him back, but I guess those are all at some crazy temperature?

And insane Ph as well. I trust you saw that story a week or so ago about the dude who accidentally dissolved himself while trying to bathe in one of Yellowstone's pools?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
they should stick a sign making fun of every idiot who gets dissolved in yellowstone to discourage other idiots from climbing in

i wonder if the video of that idiot dissolving that his sister got will ever end up on the internet

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
You know, I watched an episode of The FBI files on Hulu a few days ago.

Dude was poaching, and killed two rangers. The jury acquitted him of murder (despite the fact that dude executed them when they were incapacitated), and found him guilty of manslaughter. He then escaped from prison, and was acquitted of that.

The FBI dudes were all like :wtc: he's guilty as gently caress IDGI

Skellybones
May 31, 2011




Fun Shoe
That's just what cowboys do, you can't infringe on their God-given rights.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

Skellybones posted:

That's just what cowboys do, you can't infringe on their God-given rights.

this is why mamas shouldn't let them grow up that way

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Captain_Maclaine posted:

And insane Ph as well. I trust you saw that story a week or so ago about the dude who accidentally dissolved himself while trying to bathe in one of Yellowstone's pools?

i thought he just tripped in while drunk

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Yinlock posted:

i thought he just tripped in while drunk
Nope. Full on idiot thought he'd go for a soak.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



I feel like you should dip your toe in first instead of cannonballing that poo poo.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
Wait he jumped into boiling sulfur sober?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Baloogan posted:

Wait he jumped into boiling sulfur sober?

He tried to dip his toe in and slipped, allegedly.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
drat. That's hardcore

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Death in Yellowstone posted:

The hot springs found in abundance throughout Yellowstone National Park's thermal areas are bubbling cauldrons of steam and boiling water, most of them hotter than 150°F, and many of them in the 185°-205°F range. (Due to the elevation, water boils at about 198° in Yellowstone.) Twenty-two scalding deaths have been recorded in connection with Yellowstone's hot springs since 1870, all of them known or believed to have involved people who inadvertently fell into the springs through accident or carelessness — save one.

On 20 July 1981, 24-year-old David Allen Kirwan from La Cañada, California, was driving through Yellowstone's Fountain Paint Pot thermal area with his friend Ronald Ratliff and Ratliff's dog Moosie. At about 1:00 P.M. they parked their truck to get out and take a closer look at the hot springs; Moosie escaped from the truck, ran towards nearby Celestine Pool (a thermal spring whose water temperature has been measured at over 200°), jumped in, and began yelping.

Kirwan and Ratliff rushed over to the pool to aid the terrified dog, and Kirwan's attitude indicated he was about to go into the spring after it. According to bystanders, several people tried to warn Kirwan off by yelling at him not to jump in, but he shouted "Like hell I won't!" back at them, took two steps into the pool, and then dove head-first into the boiling spring.

Kirwan swam out to the dog and attempted to take it to shore; he then disappeared underwater, let go of the dog, and tried to climb out of the pool. Ratliff helped pull Kirwan out of the hot spring (resulting in second-degree burns to his own feet), and another visitor led Kirwan to the sidewalk as he reportedly muttered, "That was stupid. How bad am I? That was a stupid thing I did."

Kirwan was indeed in very bad shape. He was blind, and when another park visitor tried to remove one of his shoes, his skin (which was already peeling everywhere) came off with it. He sustained third-degree burns to 100% of his body, including his head, and died the following morning at a Salt Lake City hospital. (Moosie did not survive, either.)

Dick Milhous Rock!
Aug 9, 1974

:nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon:

:nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon:

"I IMMEDIATELY REGRET THIS" - the best last words

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Platystemon posted:

On 20 July 1981, 24-year-old David Allen Kirwan from La Cañada, California

He was doomed from the get-go.

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

I was at Craters of the Moon (which is cool and everyone should go) and they've got signs up that're warnings about how friable the rock is. What that actually means is that all the edges are one tourist away from collapse.

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

SPACE-A-HOLIC
Taco Defender
That story has some layers, for me. First it's :lol: because a guy needlessly killed himself in a hot spring with some darkly humorous quotes involved.

Then I feel bad for the guy because, as stupid as jumping head first into a hot spring was, the alternative was sitting on sidelines listening to his dog boiling to death. :(

Then I realize it wasn't his dog.

Then I drink

wyoming
Jun 7, 2010

Like a television
tuned to a dead channel.

Casimir Radon posted:

There shouldn't be any rules in the wilderness man!

*Starts a forest fire with their joint
*Puts a bison calf in their car so its mother rejects it
*Goes skinny dipping in hot spring, dies, family sues

I had to look up this calf one, incredulous the mother didn't flatten the dumb fuckers.
Since it was newborn, I'm guessing they're similar to elk, where the mother was hoping the calf being scentless would save it from predators.
Nature ain't idiot proof sadly.

Platystemon posted:

"That was a stupid thing I did."

Always a story that haunts me from "Like hell I won't!" to blind and skinless in minutes. :sigh:
Like, losing your idiot dog that way is a tragedy, but your idiot friend trying to save them? gently caress.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe
I'd be more sad about the dog tbh

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

SPACE-A-HOLIC
Taco Defender
I think animals just spontaneously boil to death or catch fire quite often. How do you think forest fires start? It's just a sad fact of nature.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Knight posted:

I think animals just spontaneously boil to death or catch fire quite often. How do you think forest fires start? It's just a sad fact of nature.

God hates California, and I quite frankly don't blame him.

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phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY

Knight posted:

I think animals just spontaneously boil to death or catch fire quite often. How do you think forest fires start? It's just a sad fact of nature.
I was laughing at the thought of someone boiling alive and then you made me sad.

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