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logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

poo poo did he go full zoux

you can't go full zoux without having power

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GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
So who are the progressive dems that don't like Pelosi? Here and in my social circles and everywhere else I do political stuff online she seems to have approaching 100% support.

For all the accusations of an ideological purity campaign, there doesn't seem to be any desire to fight dems that actually seem competent and desire victory, and Pelosi definitely seems to be that.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
I don't know jack poo poo about Pelosi's positions but she seemed like a real chill & cool lady in interviews I've run across of her.

mugrim
Mar 2, 2007

The same eye cannot both look up to heaven and down to earth.

GlyphGryph posted:

So who are the progressive dems that don't like Pelosi? Here and in my social circles and everywhere else I do political stuff online she seems to have approaching 100% support.

For all the accusations of an ideological purity campaign, there doesn't seem to be any desire to fight dems that actually seem competent and desire victory, and Pelosi definitely seems to be that.

Yeah, this has been my experience too.

"Ideological purity" is used to basically mean anyone who doesn't like candidates literally getting a quarter million dollars a speech from banks or who think the 15 dollar minimum wage is important.

The dems have just lowered the bar so much they think anyone who doesn't instantly suck off anyone with a D on their name is some kind of crazy commie purist that will never be sated.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
probably the biggest thing going for pelosi's image is that she's not really been able to do anything visible.

2006-2008 dubya was president
2008-2010 the senate took all the focus for the ACA (tho i think this might have been because pelosi quickly secured the votes in house while the senate was a fight)
2010-2016 was "lol you think this congress is passing something?"

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


lol

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

lol

dnd is gonna hand out black poster tags aren't they

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

GlyphGryph posted:

So who are the progressive dems that don't like Pelosi? Here and in my social circles and everywhere else I do political stuff online she seems to have approaching 100% support.

For all the accusations of an ideological purity campaign, there doesn't seem to be any desire to fight dems that actually seem competent and desire victory, and Pelosi definitely seems to be that.

The ones who hated her were the red state dems who got in off the 50 state strategy and purged in 2010. The problem is if dems want to get the power they need in 2018 to stop Trump skull loving America and to be able to stack the deck in 2020 through counter-gerrymandering, you either need those guys or an amazing substitute that no-one has really figured out yet.

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


is hillary clinton a bear now

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

UHD posted:

is hillary clinton a bear now

if hrc were a viral bear video would she be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pLsM2ijRao or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU5cMZymSr0?

100 degrees Calcium
Jan 23, 2011



If Hillary Clinton had promised to be at one random voting site to meet voters, that probably would have gotten the dem vote out.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold


lets be honest here


either of these bears would have beaten trump. both physically and in the electoral college

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
id rather have voted for that meteor or deez nuts than jonston
I think there should be comedy options on ballots

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.
clintons post electoral activities sound liek the media equivalent of posting to instagram hundreds of times daily to show your ex youre over it

tower time
Jul 30, 2008




There is a bear in the woods. For some people, the bear is easy to see. Others don't see it at all. Some people say the bear is tame. Others say it's vicious and dangerous. Since no one can really be sure who's right, isn't it smart to give it another shot in 2020? If there is a bear.

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

punk rebel ecks posted:

So who wants to participate in this week's political podcast?

Once again, this is the link to the discord.

What podcast?

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit

Nameless_Steve posted:

Hillary is a bad campaigner who would have made a terrific president. To be fair, she got more votes than any white man in US history. She merely lost by thin margins in the wrong states.

I love her, she's a really great person and a terrific stateswoman, but I really hope she doesn't run again. I doubt she will; you can tell she hates campaigning and she'll be too old anyway.

For historical precedent, note that no losing Democratic nominee has run in the next presidential primary for decades, since Humphrey in '72:
Kerry didn't run in '08, Gore didn't run in 04, Dukakis didn't run in '92, Mondale didn't run in '88, Carter didn't run in '84, McGovern didn't run in '76. Hillary will not run in 2020.

at this point i have zero faith that a president hillary clinton would have been a good president, too many technocratic yes-people and too arrogant to sanity check their bad data

Olga Gurlukovich
Nov 13, 2016


cool, thanks for that

Olga Gurlukovich
Nov 13, 2016


they have cookie elements to them. like its basically a bar shaped cookie w/goop on top

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
odd observation: i dont think trump has made a single comment about crazy bernie since the election. am i mistaken?

could he be scared?

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?

That was really good, thanks for sharing it.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Phobophilia posted:

at this point i have zero faith that a president hillary clinton would have been a good president, too many technocratic yes-people and too arrogant to sanity check their bad data

i mean it would still have been preferable to this

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

blamegame posted:

they have cookie elements to them. like its basically a bar shaped cookie w/goop on top

are you loving serious

cookies are loving round

its basically a lemon brownie for god's sake

first off, the shape is disqualifing, utterly disqualifying COOKIES ARE NOT BAR SHAPED they are ROUNDISH or like shaped into fancy dumb shapes, not BARS or BLOCKS

second off, goop on top is NOT COOKE-LIKE, again utterly disqualifying

thrid, often there is MARANG on these goddamn bars and no cookie ever has marange on it

forth, obviously there is loads of controversy about it, and cookies LACK CONTROVERSY so in that aspect these are not cookies

fifth, they have minor cookie elements, if you removed the goop, and took the underlying bar and cut it round then its kinda cookey-esq but then its neighter a "BAR" or "LEMON" so its no longer a LEMON BAR its a lemon cookie

lemon cookie != lemon bar

and

bars are CATEGEORICALLY not cookies

Phobophilia posted:

odd observation: i dont think trump has made a single comment about crazy bernie since the election. am i mistaken?

could he be scared?

game know game

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost

blamegame posted:

they have cookie elements to them. like its basically a bar shaped cookie w/goop on top

We could have had democratic socialism if he'd said this tbh

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Baloogan posted:

are you loving serious

cookies are loving round

its basically a lemon brownie for god's sake

first off, the shape is disqualifing, utterly disqualifying COOKIES ARE NOT BAR SHAPED they are ROUNDISH or like shaped into fancy dumb shapes, not BARS or BLOCKS


gently caress off. If you have ever made cookies yourself from scratch you know that a cookie will flatten out to fill space. If you have multiple on the one tray that means you will have cookies that cover all the space of the tray. You will have block cookies, and they will still be cookies.

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit

Yinlock posted:

i mean it would still have been preferable to this

yeh but it would have delayed the fracture of the democrat coalition by 4 years or so before a younger, smarter fascist gets into office. sure we'd have gotten a few more supreme court seats but considering how badly clinton hosed up the downballot, we would have lost the house and lost even more in 2018. at least the gop coalition is fragile

or trump could simply implement full fascism now in february i guess

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit

Baloogan posted:

game know game

the cuck shalt not meet the eyes of the bull

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Fulchrum posted:

gently caress off. If you have ever made cookies yourself from scratch you know that a cookie will flatten out to fill space. If you have multiple on the one tray that means you will have cookies that cover all the space of the tray. You will have block cookies, and they will still be cookies.

What a surprise, team hillary can't even plop cookie dough on a tray without loving up like total idiots

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


there's room for all delicious pastries in this thread :toot:

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Fulchrum posted:

gently caress off. If you have ever made cookies yourself from scratch you know that a cookie will flatten out to fill space. If you have multiple on the one tray that means you will have cookies that cover all the space of the tray. You will have block cookies, and they will still be cookies.

I mean I guess but you're supposed to factor in the expansion when placing the dough on the pan

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

Fulchrum posted:

gently caress off. If you have ever made cookies yourself from scratch you know that a cookie will flatten out to fill space. If you have multiple on the one tray that means you will have cookies that cover all the space of the tray. You will have block cookies, and they will still be cookies.

what the gently caress, ive made more cookies than you will ever know; I've made them from scratch, I've made them in weird shapes, I've baked them in wood fired ovens

ive baked cookies without electrity

you make cookies in MODERN electric/gas ovens with temperature controls that gauentee an even baking, the REASON for having a large number of small items is so you can move them around in an UNEVEN heated oven (aka what most of humanity used for most of history)

your modern interpretation of baking makes me sick; educate yourself

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
Are fig newtons cookies?

navyjack
Jul 15, 2006



I came across this recently, and it resonated so I thought I'd share:

Richard C Morgan posted:


“The personal, as everyone’s so loving fond of saying, is political. So if some idiot politician, some power player, tries to execute policies that harm you or those you care about, take it personally. Get angry. The Machinery of Justice will not serve you here – it is slow and cold, and it is theirs, hardware and soft-. Only the little people suffer at the hands of Justice; the creatures of power slide from under it with a wink and a grin. If you want justice, you will have to claw it from them. Make it personal. Do as much damage as you can. Get your message across. That way, you stand a better chance of being taken seriously next time. Of being considered dangerous. And make no mistake about this: being taken seriously, being considered dangerous marks the difference - the only difference in their eyes - between players and little people. Players they will make deals with. Little people they liquidate. And time and again they cream your liquidation, your displacement, your torture and brutal execution with the ultimate insult that it’s just business, it’s politics, it’s the way of the world, it’s a tough life and that it’s nothing personal. Well, gently caress them. Make it personal.”

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
I have never accidentally baked a block cookie, but I do sometimes do shapes for christmas cookies

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen

GlyphGryph posted:

Are fig newtons cookies?

they're fruit and cake

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

steinrokkan posted:

What a surprise, team hillary can't even plop cookie dough on a tray without loving up like total idiots

You don't plop cookie dough. You take a chocolate covered piece of caramel, wrap it in dough from the mixing bowl, roll it in your hands to a round golf ball sized portion, then place and press lightly on the tray.

You get yours out of a freaking tube, don't you?

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
Do christmas cookies even count as cookies. I dont even know any more. Maybe they are just firm cakes

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Fulchrum posted:

You don't plop cookie dough. You take a chocolate covered piece of caramel, wrap it in dough from the mixing bowl, roll it in your hands to a round golf ball sized portion, then place and press lightly on the tray.

You get yours out of a freaking tube, don't you?

If you did it like that your disgusting fail cuckies wouldn't disintegrate into a sheet of dough as you described, cookied lying fulchrum

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GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
By christmas cookies i mean the ones that come in different colors and you twist them around each other to make candycanes, that sort of thing

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