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Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

i am harry posted:

Re: nuke chat and also everything just going to poo poo with nobody standing up and saying, "Well actually I'm legally obliged to stop this and you" chat:

Let's not forget how powerful being able to sidestep direct responsibility can be; people constantly do terrible things and allow terrible things to happen specifically because the structure of the bureaucracy or corporation allows them to be in a position where it isn't actually their responsibility. 'It's just dreadful and it shouldn't have happened, but I really had nothing whatsoever to do with it.'

It can't happen here. It can't happen here. I'm telling you, my dear that it can't happen here.

Because I been checkin' it out, baby I checked it out a couple a times, hmmmmmmmm

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Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

i am harry posted:

Re: nuke chat and also everything just going to poo poo with nobody standing up and saying, "Well actually I'm legally obliged to stop this and you" chat:

Let's not forget how powerful being able to sidestep direct responsibility can be; people constantly do terrible things and allow terrible things to happen specifically because the structure of the bureaucracy or corporation allows them to be in a position where it isn't actually their responsibility. 'It's just dreadful and it shouldn't have happened, but I really had nothing whatsoever to do with it.'
that's why you punish whistleblowers and conscientious objectors with concentration camps, it's how you get those require the job for the general welfare of themselves and their families in moral hazard situations to do what you want

the alternative, of course, is pushing a socialist democratic strongman through and allowing him to break corporatist-backed laws with reckless abandon

we could do without the internment of japanese people part though

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

foobardog posted:

I wouldn't think American soldiers would openly engage in torture, but hey, here we are. I want to believe this, but I get the feeling the geopolitical situation is about to change pretty fast.

You should really look up the Tiger Force and the Phoenix Program from Vietnam, it's a indication of where Trump wants to go.

Hint: Phoenix Program is astoundingly close to the details of North Korean concentration camps that they're basically identical in methodology.

Mnoba
Jun 24, 2010
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/29/business/trump-to-announce-carrier-plant-will-keep-jobs-in-us.html

So if Trump had financial interests in Carrier or UT, is above bad?

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.




Fun fact: This woman is also the last verified living human being to be born in the 1800s.:unsmith:

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

Evil Fluffy posted:

The US military, a true bastion of free-thinking individuals.

Actually they generally put very smart people in positions to launch nuclear weapons and also you can't compare nuclear launches to any other type of order because thanks to MAD anyone launching one would know it's a guaranteed death sentence for anyone they know or love

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

SeANMcBAY posted:

Fun fact: This woman is also the last verified living human being to be born in the 1800s.:unsmith:
she'll also be one of the last people witnessing the beginnings of their second great depression :smith:

TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer

Incoming brigade of r/the_donald people looking up centipede or that other c word that I'm pretty sure is filtered.

QuoProQuid posted:

yeah! let's see what else is in the news...

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/803683721895378944


it's three minutes to midnight

Imagine being essentially with it and conscious of the world for almost all of the 1900's and into the 2000's then the loving election of Donald Trump. What a roller coaster. Sadly we all know how it ends.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:

Actually they generally put very smart people in positions to launch nuclear weapons and also you can't compare nuclear launches to any other type of order because thanks to MAD anyone launching one would know it's a guaranteed death sentence for anyone they know or love

Are these the same smart people who end up getting caught cheating on their exams for the positions along with the USAF general who got drunk and started bragging about his work and the Navy Admiral who got caught with counterfeit casino chips?

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

Party Plane Jones posted:

Are these the same smart people who end up getting caught cheating on their exams for the positions along with the USAF general who got drunk and started bragging about his work and the Navy Admiral who got caught with counterfeit casino chips?

No, but I would think if they were it'd make you more confident that they weren't going to blindly follow orders, especially ones that would kill their families

foobardog
Apr 19, 2007

There, now I can tell when you're posting.

-- A friend :)

Evil Fluffy posted:

I'm not sure how you could think that unless you never learned about Vietnam when growing up. Waterboarding doesn't surprise me. Even in Afghanistan we had soldiers murdering locals and harvesting body parts as trophies and the US government still barely gave a poo poo when it was international news. I'll give you a guess at how severe (or not) the punishments were for those involved.

Party Plane Jones posted:

You should really look up the Tiger Force and the Phoenix Program from Vietnam, it's a indication of where Trump wants to go.

Hint: Phoenix Program is astoundingly close to the details of North Korean concentration camps that they're basically identical in methodology.

Well, as mentioned, I grew up in the 80s, in the full swing of spinning Vietnam to be the American dolchstoss, so yeah. :(

Boon
Jun 21, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Party Plane Jones posted:

Are these the same smart people who end up getting caught cheating on their exams for the positions along with the USAF general who got drunk and started bragging about his work and the Navy Admiral who got caught with counterfeit casino chips?

I see posts like this and think, "I wonder what this clearly brilliant human being does when he/she is not posting on SA, I bet they're a real leader in whatever profession they've chosen"

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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It's true that I have no direct military experience and have to glean what I can from open source internet poo poo but I would ask why there are so few actual military people posting in this thread in the first place. (It's probably because like half of the regular posters are hostile towards the military or the idea of US foreign policy in general)

Boon
Jun 21, 2005

by R. Guyovich
It's probably because there aren't a whole hell of a lot of people in position to really talk about how things work, and they have to be careful in how they do so

Coheed and Camembert
Feb 11, 2012
https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/803772352970498049

What's Medicare? Look, shiny jobs!

HannibalBarca
Sep 11, 2016

History shows, again and again, how nature points out the folly of man.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Holy poo poo

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

I can take some small joy in the knowledge that Trump is making people like Romney and Cruz eat poo poo and loving every second of it. Knowing that they will always look in the mirror and know that Trump beat them warms the cockles of my heart. And knowing that this isn't some private sadness either, since Trump will take every opportunity to remind them of that fact.

Edit: Do Mormons eat shellfish? Is Trump forcing Romney to break his religion's dietary restrictions for shits and giggles?

Xae
Jan 19, 2005

Oh, the economic anxiety!

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P


the twin peaks revival looks good

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

in the 20s the richest of upper class was at their most prosperous

the 100 year cycle is real

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
https://twitter.com/fivefifths/status/803771630140825600

Get ready to see these statistics get worse within the next four years

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

QuoProQuid posted:

the twin peaks revival looks good

:boom:

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

HorseRenoir posted:

https://twitter.com/fivefifths/status/803771630140825600

Get ready to see these statistics get worse within the next four years
tbh I wish this was true of all demographics

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:

Actually they generally put very smart people in positions to launch nuclear weapons and also you can't compare nuclear launches to any o

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/23/us/air-force-nuclear-silo-doors-opened/

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

HorseRenoir posted:

https://twitter.com/fivefifths/status/803771630140825600

Get ready to see these statistics get worse within the next four years

Don't get too excited, other races are having enough kids to offset the loss.

Revelation 2-13
May 13, 2010

Pillbug

Not even sworn in yet and he still managed to bigly fix Obamas horrible economy so the year ends on an upturn.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

in the 20s the richest of upper class was at their most prosperous

the 100 year cycle is real

On the bright side, that means that the New New Deal is right around the corner!

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.

Laughing at this because Trump has this big loving bowl in front of him and Mitt has to take off the shared plate for his appetizer.

Bates
Jun 15, 2006

Wait which states don't have rural and urban areas? :raise:

foobardog
Apr 19, 2007

There, now I can tell when you're posting.

-- A friend :)

Bates posted:

Wait which states don't have rural and urban areas? :raise:

You're not allowed to know about those, citizen.

Jizz Festival
Oct 30, 2012
Lipstick Apathy

Bates posted:

Wait which states don't have rural and urban areas? :raise:

Wyoming, at least.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
new hampshire is more rural than iowa. the most rural states in the us are maine, vermont, west virginia, and mississippi and coming in fifth is montana

the five most urban states are california, new jersey, nevada, massachusetts, and hawaii

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
https://twitter.com/JustinWolfers/status/803784402736205824

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

QuoProQuid posted:

the twin peaks revival looks good

I assume reince priebus is going to play the part of the the backwards dancing midget.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
If Romney is made SoS I will sleep a bit easier



which is so loving sad

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Are those earnings leading to better pay?

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

Crowsbeak posted:

Are those earnings leading to better pay?

Nnnnnope! Wages are still stagnant and most Americans are still poor. Corporate earnings and the stock market are up but it isn't benefiting the 99%.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

HorseRenoir posted:

https://twitter.com/fivefifths/status/803771630140825600

Get ready to see these statistics get worse within the next four years

Fine with me. It seems there really is no other way to reach a point where lasting reform can happen.

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Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

If Romney is made SoS I will sleep a bit easier



which is so loving sad

he won't be. this is a power move to humiliate romney

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